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Saudi Arabia Bans Valentine's Day  
User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_521160.html?menu=news.quirkies

Gotta love those Saudis, they're all crazy!  Big thumbs up


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
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User currently offlineMusalmaan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1249 times:

So according to Islam, they did the right thing. Islam teaches a muslim society to eliminate things which are not allowed in Islam and in this case, dating, forming premartial relationships or premartial romance.

So to me, they are not crazy instead they are faithful.


User currently offlineOO-AOG From Switzerland, joined Dec 2000, 1426 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

I agree Musalmaan.



Falcon....like a limo but with wings
User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

Riiiight. So you are in fact admitting indirectly that the Muslim faith is not strong enough for its followers to adhere to its principles through their own will - instead everything has to be banned to FORCE them to comply? Is that therefore not an admission that Islam therefore needs to regulate its followers by forced submission?


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1210 times:

Ryanb741,

I was just about to make exactly the same point. It will be interesting to see the response, if any.
Cheers,

mb


User currently offlineMusalmaan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

Hehe.

No actually that is wrong. Many historians (don't ask me which) and religious scholars (don't ask me which) have said that Islam has the greatest % of faithful people. Since the thing is that in Islam, if one, regardless of being muslim or not, is living in muslim area, they have to follow and respect the laws set out by Quran and Islam itself. No if the people over there don't like it, they might very well migrate to neighbouring countries such as UAE, Eqypt, or Syria or even to USA or Canada. We don't force them. They are the ones living there and thus, we can conclude that they don't mind such restrictions.


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4791 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1193 times:

Islam teaches a muslim society to eliminate things which are not allowed in Islam and in this case, dating, forming premartial relationships or premartial romance.

HELLO? What do you think the point of Valentine's day is? To promote premarital sex? It can be celebrated between acquantiances, friends, lovers, married couples, siblings, grandparents etc.


User currently offlineMusalmaan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1189 times:

Yes that is right. You have a valid point but if it can cause other things as well, ban it...that's what they say.

User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2594 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1165 times:

But let the men "gaily" play amongst themselves.

Inshallah, indeed!


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1156 times:

Johnboy,

*giggle*

You should read what Fodors says!!

lol

mb


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1151 times:

this is upsetting and scary. Actions like this will only stir further anti-americanism and anti-westernism that contribute to the present crisis we have today.

If America banned its citizens from celebrating Muslim and Saudi holidays and events, I would be equally outraged, but thankfully that is not in the spirit of modernity or civility and thus the US has no interest in whether its citizens celebrate Valentines Day or not.

TNNH


User currently offlineGoodbye From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 913 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

It's too commercial anyway...

Needless to say I did not get any Valentines this year  Sad


User currently offlineHoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1134 times:

Yeah and Saudi has "banned" alcohol and drugs from their country too. Yet somehow drug and alcohol abuse are rampant among its people. How un-Islamic!

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

I'm afraid this makes Islam (or at least the Saudi version of it) look awfully 13th century.

Charles


User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1084 times:

Isnt Valentine's Day supposed to celebrate love? So how can ANY religion, especially Islam, be against Love?

Mebbe, if they renamed it as Saint Majnoo's Day then it would be more acceptable to Islam?

Regards.

Roy.


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1078 times:

CPDC10-30 made an excellent point.

Valentine's day can be celebrated by anybody; parents, married couples, friends, and (GASP!) even unmarried couples (most of whom end up getting married anyway).

Yet another step backwards for Saudi Arabia. What next, ban oxygen?



Proud to be an Assyrian!
User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1077 times:

What next, ban oxygen?

I know some countries that would be very happy if the Saudis decided to ban oxygen from themselves.  Smile


User currently offlineMusalmaan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1055 times:

Guys, think about it from a religious point of you. The name of the occasion is Saint Valentine's Day.
Now, Saint suggests to me that it is a christian concept and if I am living in a country that follows Islam closely, I suggest ban it. And as for gays celebrating there, they don't atleast do it in public nor do they show their gayness in public. Like you guys said, you don't know who is gay. Also, believe me, not many people over there are gay. Maybe 0.5% at the most.

And as for Islam looking very 13th century, believe me, when we see pictures of women wearing clothes as if they were poor and didn't had money to buy full clothes, we think western people are becoming ignorant.
If you keep thinking with your society's mentality than yes, you will think us as ancient, outdated religion but if you look from our mentalities, we find Islam the most modern and porsche religion.

Twaneedsnohelp: I know India would be very willing to ban oxygen due to overcrowding if they could  Smile


User currently offlineRwy31R From Saudi Arabia, joined Aug 2001, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1041 times:

I agree Ryanb741. you couldn't be more right.


"Saudia Three Five hold short Three One Right"
User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1039 times:

Now, Saint suggests to me that it is a christian concept and if I am living in a country that follows Islam closely, I suggest ban it.

Ok, well here lies the problem Musalman. Saudi Arabia's banning of a holiday with only remotely Christian ties because it is not Islamic is a strong show of intolerance to people other than muslims. This is inconsistant with global themes international cooperation and religious tolerance and diologue. Take for example Israel, a Jewish state. Israel has no connection to st. valentines day and the holiday isnt celebrated much, but the government would never think of banning the holiday and preventing its citizens from celebrating it. Such action is antithetical to the state was founded upon.

Why can't Saudi make a mature and similar decision?

Maybe 0.5% at the most.

More silly comments from our Musliman. How can only half of one percent of the population in Saudi be born gay but the rest of the world has gay populations around 10% or so?? Did the prophet Mohammad make some miracle or divine act decreasing the ability of mothers from having gay children????

Somehow I don't think thats true and the more likely answer is that the repressive regime of Saudi Arabia prevents its citizens from being openly gay because it might kill them or cut off their cock or whatever it is they do over there.

Intolerant to nonMuslims, intolerant to gays, sound like a geat system.... if your a nazi.

TNNH


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1032 times:

Musalmaan says:

""Also, believe me, not many people over there are gay. Maybe 0.5% at the most. ""

*laughing*

TNNH,

You make an obvious point. Our mysterious muslim friends are only proving to the rest of us how barbaric and behind the times muslim nations are.

If other countries peoples, who are allowed religious and other freedoms continue to prosper, why are strict Islamic countries behind the times?

Australia for example has no national religion. As I have stated before anyone is free to choose whatever religion in this country they want. As a very small nation made up of people from accross the planet we enjoy a wonderful economy and lifestyle. Together with the more progressive nations we also have our fair share of technological breakthroughs in medicine and tonnes of other things.

What technological and innovative things have any Islamic countries given us? If someone can provide facts and figures I would be interested in the per capita basis.

Humans evolve - not devolve.

Cheers,

mb

A new star is born..


User currently offlineKEWR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1032 times:

Hmm...

I can just see all the Saudi princes praising the abolition of Valentine's Day and supporting the great Anti-American campaign in their motherland. Then they sit back, sip a Coca-Cola, and come on their 2 Lockheed L-1011's non-stop to Newark for a shopping spree in New York. They come here all the time, I have seen it myself.

- KEWR  Sad


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1028 times:

Our mysterious muslim friends

They're not my friends.  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1011 times:

Too bad it can't be banned in the United States........


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1004 times:

someone didnt get laid last night?

25 PUnmuth@VIE : Whats so hard to accept that the Saudis are doing something in their own country? Nobody is going to be hurt nobody is going to die because of the ban
26 Toadpipe : People are born gay? Are you referring to the "gay" gene? That was debunked by the guy who "discovered" it. Funny how when he discovered it, that it w
27 Prebennorholm : Just an experiment: Imagine that "western" countries banned the Ramadan? Just an experiment, it can never happen. Because we are not living in the 13t
28 Post contains images Marco : Guys, think about it from a religious point of you. The name of the occasion is Saint Valentine's Day. Now, Saint suggests to me that it is a christia
29 Matt D : Marco: Your post begs an interesting question. If homosexuality is still "in the closet" in Saudi Arabia, and few men practice or acknowledge it, then
30 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : Taking the active part in homosexual relationships is not regarded as homosexual in the Arabian world. Hence such low percentage numbers. On the other
31 Marco : Your post begs an interesting question. If homosexuality is still "in the closet" in Saudi Arabia, and few men practice or acknowledge it, then who di
32 Post contains links Marco : Airsicknessbag, Unfortunately many people have used Christianity as an excuse to kill people, but if we study the Bible, killing is wrong. Only God ha
33 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : >>>Christianity is not violent, nor does it preach violence. Marco, perhaps I made it not clear enough what I wanted to say: I was talking about Chris
34 Twaneedsnohelp : Whats so hard to accept that the Saudis are doing something in their own country? Nobody is going to be hurt nobody is going to die because of the ban
35 777236ER : Can i ask why people are getting annoyed with Saudia Arabia?! It should be banned!! And no, this isn't just because 777236ER's girlfriend was a France
36 Indianguy : Pardon me! but i think i just imssed something. Can someone tell me how homosexuality got into this discussion?!
37 WorldVoyager : As a Muslim I DISAGREE with whoever said that Islam blatantly discourages relationships. It is MUCH more of a cultural aspect than an actual religious
38 Post contains images Klaus : Mx5_boy: What technological and innovative things have any Islamic countries given us? - The basis for modern medicine. - Ditto for astronomy. - Ditto
39 Post contains images Klaus : Toadpipe: People are born gay? Are you referring to the "gay" gene? That was debunked by the guy who "discovered" it. Which would at most prove that h
40 Twaneedsnohelp : The trouble is, that´s been many, many centuries ago. With the advent (or return) of religious orthodoxy, muslim contributions to the world seem to h
41 Klaus : Klaus: The trouble is, that´s been many, many centuries ago. With the advent (or return) of religious orthodoxy, muslim contributions to the world se
42 Post contains images Trvlr : TNNH: Yup...exactly. I made that point on a few other threads too...I guess we can only hope for the fundamentalist countries . Toadpipe: You're wrong
43 Indianguy : Just a small correction Klaus. The scientific inventions you mentioned like Zero, Decimal System and some modern algebraic concepts were invented in I
44 Post contains images Klaus : Indianguy: Just a small correction Klaus. The scientific inventions you mentioned like Zero, Decimal System and some modern algebraic concepts were in
45 Twaneedsnohelp : Any reply PUnmuth@VIE to my countrargument?
46 Toadpipe : In the absence of any proof then I am wrong. Sorry, doesn't work that way, if it ain't in the genes, it ain't in the genes. It shows every evidence of
47 Trvlr : Toadpipe: Then, theoretically, your heterosexuality is also choice. And how did you choose? Do you believe that you consciously thought about it one d
48 OzarkD9S : Couldn't have put it better myself!
49 Airmale : I see no harm in celebrating Valentines, I am against it becoming so commercialised.
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