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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

I received a parking ticket last night at 1:35am-I was parked on a residential street (with 30+ other cars parked)--my ticket was for no front license plate. Though when I bought my car the dealer only gave me one plate...Nevertheless, my question is-what is to stop the police from ticketing me again next week or 3 weeks from now? I'm going to submit a request with the DMV to get my other plate-but Lord knows with the DMV that it will take 30 days for me to recieve it.

Can the police keep ticketing me for the same violation even if I'm just waiting for the DMV to do their part?

I'm hoping LOT767won't be posting his thoughts on cops-though with my current state of mind, I'd agree with him right now  Wink


PS: The ticket is only $25..


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

You may have had a certain amount of time to get the front plate on and produce proof so you wouldn't have to pay. I don't understant you DMW thing. Makes no sense. DMV never gives you one plate if state law requires you to have both. I would call the dealer ASAP.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26785 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1488 times:



Quoting AA61Hvy (Thread starter):
I received a parking ticket last night at 1:35am-I was parked on a residential street (with 30+ other cars parked)--my ticket was for no front license plate.

Ok, here is my question for you. Do you still have your Texas or Ohio plates and are you still registered there? Further, do you still qualify as a resident of one of those other states, even arguably? If no, have you passed the period of time in which you should have changed over, which is usually also arguable? If you still lawfully have out of state plates on your car, the front plate ticket is bogus and you should go fight it.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Thread starter):
Nevertheless, my question is-what is to stop the police from ticketing me again next week or 3 weeks from now?

Nothing but common sense if you still have your Texas or Ohio plates.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Thread starter):

PS: The ticket is only $25..

That sounds like the fix it ticket fee. You will have to show up with the car at a CHP office and get it signed off to pay that. Otherwise, it is usually more.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26785 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1488 times:



Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 2):
Carry said proof in your vehicle and be prepared to show it in a traffic stop.

The California DMV issues new plates on the spot.



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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1449 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
Ok, here is my question for you. Do you still have your Texas or Ohio plates and are you still registered there? Further, do you still qualify as a resident of one of those other states, even arguably? If no, have you passed the period of time in which you should have changed over, which is usually also arguable? If you still lawfully have out of state plates on your car, the front plate ticket is bogus and you should go fight it.

I knew my man Alireza was going to post... I bought my car in California-registered it here etc (Audi of Torrance). So that's no big whoop

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
DMV never gives you one plate if state law requires you to have both. I would call the dealer ASAP.

When I say DMV-I mean anything involving CA and driving so DPS/DMV/ I am using interchangeably.

Funny part is about all of this, I may be getting a new car soon hehe....



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User currently offlineNuori5084 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1444 times:

California vehicle code requires two plates on at all times. There dealer is wrong in that you only need one plate and they should know better than that. Whenever you go to the DMV to pick up your plates, two plates are in the envelope, always. You said the dealer gave you one plate....on a brand new car? Someone is pulling a fast one.

The only thing stopping you from being cited again is showing your receipt from your last ticket if a cop specifically stops for for a no front-plate violation or proof that you've contacted the DMV regarding the matter.

A 1:35am front plate ticket...he must have been really bored!



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User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

Still, get to the bottom of it. The DMV has ways of making life hell, until you get it cleared up. Here in ATL, I had a parking ticket I got in town, totally forgot about it(stuck it in my glovebox) and when it came time to renew my license, it was somewhat ackward. I was able to track it down and take care of it, but a pain in the ass nonetheless! I'd have a chat with the dealer. Good Luck!


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26785 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1439 times:



Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 6):

I knew my man Alireza was going to post... I bought my car in California-registered it here etc (Audi of Torrance).

At your service.

If you bought it here in CA, the dealership damn well got 2 plates from the DMV and should have given them both to you. If I were you, I would go to Audi of Torrance and demand they give you the other plate and pay for all your costs involved here.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 6):

When I say DMV-I mean anything involving CA and driving so DPS/DMV

We don't have a DPS here, only a DMV.



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1351 times:



Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 5):
You said the dealer gave you one plate....on a brand new car? Someone is pulling a fast one.

More likely they just forgot to give him the second plate. The dealer will put both plates on before you take delivery of the vehicle. If you prefer not to have the front plate on they will be more than happy to not put in on but they should give it to you.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1346 times:



Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 5):
You said the dealer gave you one plate....on a brand new car? Someone is pulling a fast one.

I should have said, I did not buy my car new.



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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1346 times:



Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 5):
There dealer is wrong in that you only need one plate and they should know better than that.

He does, the reason he told him this is so that he, the dealer, didn't have to install the plate bracket. It is against the law for the dealer to sell a car that does not conform to state codes. If the dealer sold you a car without a front bracket he broke the law. Bring the car back to him and tell him he needs to install a plate bracket at no cost to you.


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1330 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
The California DMV issues new plates on the spot.



Quoting AA61Hvy (Thread starter):
I received a parking ticket last night at 1:35am-I was parked on a residential street (with 30+ other cars parked)--my ticket was for no front license plate. Though when I bought my car the dealer only gave me one plate...Nevertheless, my question is-what is to stop the police from ticketing me again next week or 3 weeks from now? I'm going to submit a request with the DMV to get my other plate-but Lord knows with the DMV that it will take 30 days for me to recieve it.



Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 5):
A 1:35am front plate ticket...he must have been really bored!

Am I missing something or does purchasing a car in CA different than in IL/WI. You get a Temp plate here for 14-30 days and then go to the DMV where you get 2 plates.

How can you possibly get 2 permanent plates from the dealer when the car was not yet registered under your name and is under a temp plate (and you always only get 1 Temp)...I am lost?


User currently offlineLON-CHI From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1324 times:



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 11):
Am I missing something or does purchasing a car in CA different than in IL/WI. You get a Temp plate here for 14-30 days and then go to the DMV where you get 2 plates.

How can you possibly get 2 permanent plates from the dealer when the car was not yet registered under your name and is under a temp plate (and you always only get 1 Temp)...I am lost?

I recently purchased a car in IL and the dealer gave me my 2 permanent plates when I finalized the sale & picked up the car. They were able to log onto the DMV system and register the car under my name. A very quick & painless process.


User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1318 times:



Quoting LON-CHI (Reply 12):
I recently purchased a car in IL and the dealer gave me my 2 permanent plates when I finalized the sale & picked up the car. They were able to log onto the DMV system and register the car under my name. A very quick & painless process.

Hmmm didnt know

I will also add Ive never bought a car in the state I live in so I had no idea they can do this. Every car I bought was purchased in Wisconsin and then reigstered either in Illinois or in Poland so I always had to go to DMV to pay tax and registration on a Temporary plate.


User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

Here in Virginia, we're required to have two plates. When I bought a new car last fall, the dealer installed both plates before I took delivery. First time that's ever happened - I usually get the 30 day temporary plates LOT references in post 11.

From what it sounds like - I'd go with Airfoilsguy in post 10.

Good luck!


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

I will add one more thing

When I got my Vett the dealer had to give my this pamphlet on how to install my front plate. Vett's came with, and I think still do, inserts that say "Corvette" that are molded to fit the car. The car looks like crap without them which is why you hardly ever see any Vetts with front plates, at least in Ohio. I have never been ticked for not having a front plate, but it is something you can get a ticket for in Ohio. It is more like something a cop would give you a ticket for if you pissed him off.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1292 times:



Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 9):
I should have said, I did not buy my car new

Well did u transfer plates from another car? Or get new ones? Either way the second plate has to be floating around somewhere, and not at DMV.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1289 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 16):
Well did u transfer plates from another car? Or get new ones? Either way the second plate has to be floating around somewhere, and not at DMV.

No, I bought the car at the dealership, there was no transferring of anything.

The DMV's website has an application for replacement plates on their website. I'm going to badger the dealership until they do it. If they do not, I'll submit the paper work and get a replacement plate.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26785 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1272 times:



Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
If you prefer not to have the front plate on they will be more than happy to not put in on but they should give it to you.

In California, you have no choice.

Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 11):
Am I missing something or does purchasing a car in CA different than in IL/WI. You get a Temp plate here for 14-30 days and then go to the DMV where you get 2 plates.



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 11):


How can you possibly get 2 permanent plates from the dealer when the car was not yet registered under your name and is under a temp plate (and you always only get 1 Temp)...I am lost?

If it was brand new, chances are he wouldn't have gotten the plate. Further, we don't have those temporary plates in CA, rather the R/S (report of sale) is applied to the front or rear windshield and acts as the temporary registration and functions in lieu of a plate.

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 15):
It is more like something a cop would give you a ticket for if you pissed him off.

Here in California, particularly in cities that have red light cameras, they take it pretty seriously. I have actually been pulled over just for the no front plate thing.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 17):


The DMV's website has an application for replacement plates on their website. I'm going to badger the dealership until they do it. If they do not, I'll submit the paper work and get a replacement plate.

They got lazy about this. They should have just registered it with new plates.



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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1252 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
If it was brand new, chances are he wouldn't have gotten the plate. Further, we don't have those temporary plates in CA, rather the R/S (report of sale) is applied to the front or rear windshield and acts as the temporary registration and functions in lieu of a plate.

So like I was saying...no temp plates over there...strange.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1200 times:



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 19):
So like I was saying...no temp plates over there...strange.

Guess it's all a matter of perspective... I continue to be perplexed by the temporary plates Ohio uses... I mean, why screw with taking off the license plate frame, putting a paper plate the frame for 30 days (or whatever), screwing it all back together, getting your perm plates, taking everything apart, and screwing it all back together again when in CA you can just take the 1/8th sheet (or whatever) report of sale, tape it to the window [some dealers have nifty little clear 'pocket' things] and never screw with the plate or frame until your real plates arrive.

Lincoln



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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1154 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 20):
Guess it's all a matter of perspective... I continue to be perplexed by the temporary plates Ohio uses... I mean, why screw with taking off the license plate frame, putting a paper plate the frame for 30 days (or whatever), screwing it all back together, getting your perm plates, taking everything apart, and screwing it all back together again when in CA you can just take the 1/8th sheet (or whatever) report of sale, tape it to the window [some dealers have nifty little clear 'pocket' things] and never screw with the plate or frame until your real plates arrive.

I am not sure what you are talking about taking the plate frame off? Are you talking about the stupid Dealer ad plates? I take those right off anyway.

Let me ask this question to N1120A and others who have no temp plates. What happens in the case where you do not sell your car but you need temporary plates for another reason. One is to drive a car from your current state to another (when the current state plates are invalid) or you have your vanity plates stolen and need a temp plate until your new ones arrive?


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1134 times:



Quoting LOT767-300ER (Reply 21):
I am not sure what you are talking about taking the plate frame off? Are you talking about the stupid Dealer ad plates? I take those right off anyway.

No, in Ohio at least, most of the times I've seen it the "paper plate" is mounted in the license plate frame just like the "real" plate will be eventually -- therefore, you have to go through the exercise of screwing with the mounting of your license plate/license plate frame twice



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User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1106 times:



Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 17):
No, I bought the car at the dealership, there was no transferring of anything.

The DMV's website has an application for replacement plates on their website. I'm going to badger the dealership until they do it. If they do not, I'll submit the paper work and get a replacement plate.

If the car was not new - there was some kind of transfer of title and registration involved.

Since you use the words "replacement plates" they probably transferred the title and registration. Here in Texas the used car keeps the old plates - with just the registration transferred to the new owner's name. Which can result in issues if tickets or warrants are outstanding on the old plate number.

Do be all over the dealer, and make danged sure they pay you pack the ticket costs.

I'm 100% certain they charged you money for the transfer of the registration - the state fee and charged you a $50 or $100 document fee on top of that for taking care of the paperwork.

You've paid for things to be done right - this is their fault.

(Now if your one plate on the car was a temporary and marked as such - you might get the ticket dismissed - you would in Texas - the person writing the ticket should have been smarter - but the dealer would know what to do in that case)


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3086 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1090 times:

Here we need two plates....If i ticket you for having one and the next day is a business day ....if i see you driving the next night you will get a ticket again....getting a second plate is as easy as going to the MTO and they give you a set of plates the same day...So if you do not have it the following day you had better have a good excuse....Now this is in a major city and in rural areas things may be different...

Most of the time people with out a front plate do not like how it looks and leave it off.....

GS



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25 2H4 : I bought my car in a state that doesn't require front plates. Now I live in a state that does, and will be getting new plates shortly. I'm not thrill
26 N1120A : CA does use temporary number tags that you apply to a window (usually the rear, unless it is tinted) to deal with registration anomalies. You probabl
27 LOT767-300ER : I am still not following you. What frame are you talking about here? Temporary plates are attached with screws to the license plate holders....there
28 CaptOveur : Not a thing. Good idea.. Do you at least have a front plate bracket on your new car? Yes. However, keep the proof you have the plate on order then go
29 N1120A : In CA, front plate tickets are fix it tickets.
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