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2009 Chevy Traverse "Station Wagon" Revealed  
User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21110 times:

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The standard engine is GM's 3.6-liter V-6 with 281 horsepower and 253 pound-feet of torque. A six-speed automatic is the sole transmission. Standard safety features include six airbags; anti-lock brakes; traction and stability control. Other options will include a rearview camera, rear parking assist, a power liftgate; a DVD entertainment system; a navigation system; heated mirrors; and remote start. The Traverse cross-over will be built at the former Saturn assembly plant located Spring Hill, TN and will be on sale at Chevy dealers this fall.

But why do the automakers marketing geniuses call this type of vehicle (Ford Edge, GMC Acadia, Dodge Journey, etc.) a "cross-over" vehicle? They are really nothing more than a slightly taller version of a old-fashioned "station wagon"!!  boggled 


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21625 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21097 times:

I know I've seen that back end before on some other car. I hope I never have to see that front end again - that looks ugly.

-Mir



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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3083 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21091 times:

Traverse, Acadia, Outlook, Enclave, they all look like big fat turds. More so then the late 90s Chrysler minivans.


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User currently offlineA346Dude From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1283 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21091 times:

Looks more like an SUV than a station wagon to me - an SUV with the new Malibu's grille.


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8675 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21082 times:



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 2):
Traverse, Acadia, Outlook, Enclave, they all look like big fat turds. More so then the late 90s Chrysler minivans.

Yes they do but that is one big rolling turd.

Hunter



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User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21076 times:



Quoting StasisLAX (Thread starter):
But why do the automakers marketing geniuses call this type of vehicle (Ford Edge, GMC Acadia, Dodge Journey, etc.) a "cross-over" vehicle? They are really nothing more than a slightly taller version of a old-fashioned "station wagon"!!



Quoting A346Dude (Reply 3):
Looks more like an SUV than a station wagon to me - an SUV with the new Malibu's grille.

If I'm not mistaken, and I'm not a vehicular expert like Superfly, a cross-over vehicle is the grotesque love-child of a station wagon and a SUV.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 21077 times:

It's cool how the first thing to contact another vehicle during a crash is the Chevy "bowtie" emblem. Likewise for the ass end. Those little gold badges must be made of some space-age material to be able to function as full-width bumpers.

I wonder how much they'll cost to repair after a crash. Stupid numbnut designers.


User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3083 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 21068 times:



Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6):
I wonder how much they'll cost to repair after a crash

No worries. That cost seems to be offset by the gross amount of polished plastic on the front and back.



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User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 21066 times:

Thanks for posting this . . . I have the day off tomorrow and found out the Chicago Auto Show opens for public viewing tomorrow . . . I just found out what I want to do.  thumbsup 

User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 21059 times:



Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 8):
Thanks for posting this . . . I have the day off tomorrow and found out the Chicago Auto Show opens for public viewing tomorrow . . . I just found out what I want to do. thumbsup

No problem, enjoy the Chicago show! I spent the entire day at the annual Tampa Auto Show a couple of months ago  Big grin



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4022 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 21046 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
I know I've seen that back end before on some other car.

Yeah, I guess it was on the VW Golf they stole it from.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11653 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 21012 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
I know I've seen that back end before on some other car.



Quoting Pyrex (Reply 10):
I guess it was on the VW Golf they stole it from.

I was going to say Toureg or Acura MDX (?).

BTW, why a V-6, six speed automatic in this day of high gas prices? And what exactly does "crossover" mean? Back in the day, we had station wagons; "truck" was a generic name for what we call SUVs and included Wagoneers and Internationals, Suburbans and pick-ups.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 21006 times:

Speaking of SUV's, just today I passed something SUV that I have heard absolutely NOTHING about.

Has anyone heard that SAAB is making an SUV based off the Chevy Trailblazer/GMC Envoy? I know GM used to make one for Olds, and just this year, Isuzu pulled out of all USA sales, thus killing the Ascender, but haven't heard anything about the Saab.. its known as the 9-7x, and can be seen here:

http://www.saabusa.com/

Anyway, maybe I just missed the news.. anyway, not a good move in my opinion, almost a downgrade for Saab... it's not like the Trailblazers/Envoys are bad (I own an Envoy), but I figure a Saab shouldn't be based on a mid level product. They'll never compete against BMW or Lexus doing this.

[Edited 2008-02-06 18:47:30]


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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2372 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 20977 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 11):
BTW, why a V-6, six speed automatic in this day of high gas prices?

What else would you put in an SUV of this size? A 4cyl would be too small. And a 6-speed transmission is usually more fuel efficient and gives better performance than a 5-speed auto.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 12):
Anyway, maybe I just missed the news.. anyway, not a good move in my opinion, almost a downgrade for Saab..

Saab is struggling. They are having a very, very hard time selling cars. I have a feeling GM is going to dump the brand or sell it before they invest in product development that they will never see a return on.


User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 20974 times:



Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 13):
What else would you put in an SUV of this size? A 4cyl would be too small. And a 6-speed transmission is usually more fuel efficient and gives better performance than a 5-speed auto.

I think the rated mileage of those SUV's are 20/24. 24 mpg in an 8 passenger non-hybrid SUV is pretty stout.



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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3068 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 20969 times:



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 12):
I figure a Saab shouldn't be based on a mid level product.

Since GM bought SAAB, the 9-3 is heavily based on an Opel...the Astra, if I'm not mistaken.
Before the GM buyout, the 9-5 shared major body components with the Lancia Thema, a Fiat I can't remember the name of, and one other European car.
The last SAABs that were exclusively SAAB-designed were the old 99s.



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User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 20950 times:

These are going to look great on the back of a tow truck.. and on used car lots after barely a year.

User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 20948 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
I know I've seen that back end before on some other car.

CX-9?



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 14):
24 mpg in an 8 passenger non-hybrid SUV is pretty stout.

8 passengers? Hardly. Only if you are hauling a bunch of amputees. Unfortunately not many manufacturers are making vehicles that will comfortably hold 7 people anymore. The 3-row SUV's are a joke, as are most new minivans.


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 20931 times:

It's a minivan without a sliding door. Looks awful to me, but what the hell do I know.

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21625 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 20927 times:



Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 12):
Has anyone heard that SAAB is making an SUV based off the Chevy Trailblazer/GMC Envoy?

Yup.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 12):
almost a downgrade for Saab... it's not like the Trailblazers/Envoys are bad (I own an Envoy), but I figure a Saab shouldn't be based on a mid level product.

Not only that, but it doesn't fit at all with the Saab brand. People who want a Saab are generally looking to stay away from an SUV like that. I'm a Saab fan, but I hate that car (and the 9-2X, which fortunately has gone the way of the dodo).

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 10):
Yeah, I guess it was on the VW Golf they stole it from.



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 11):
I was going to say Toureg or Acura MDX (?).



Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 17):
CX-9?

It was the Hyundai Santa Fe I was thinking of:



-Mir



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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3083 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 20911 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 19):
It was the Hyundai Santa Fe I was thinking of:

Which has a rear that looks like a fat bug taunting you. I can't imagine the blind spots on that thing with the rear side windows curving up like that in the name of "style."



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12146 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 20873 times:



Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6):
I wonder how much they'll cost to repair after a crash.

Why would you spend money to fix what now has become a good looking car.  checkeredflag 

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6):
It's cool how the first thing to contact another vehicle during a crash is the Chevy "bowtie" emblem.

 bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineCaptoveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 20870 times:



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 20):
I can't imagine the blind spots on that thing with the rear side windows curving up like that in the name of "style."

I can't imagine someone in an SUV giving enough of a shit about those around them to look before doing something like changing lanes or backing out of a parking space.


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 20862 times:

I wish Lamborghini still made SUVs




User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39882 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 20854 times:

Damn!
I was getting my hopes up high thinking it was going to be the 2nd. coming of the Kingswood wagon.
This is a huge let down and hardly anything new.



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25 Post contains images MD11junkie : Audi Q7? (love the Q7) I think the Traverse is nice, even though I don't like its front... but, how is this a Station Wagon?
26 Asuflyer05 : Ooh you forgot rental car lots.
27 Lobster : That this is fugly!! Just looks like another Rendezvous.
28 GuitrThree : I know... but that's what they claim (7 -or- 8) depending on model.. Let's not forget, Ford claims you can stick 4 people in a Mustang, too!!! Actual
29 Aa757first : I didn't realize Saab was also getting one of these. So now we have the same exact car being sold as a Buick, Chevy, Saturn, GMC and now possibly a Sa
30 Post contains images FLY2HMO : That is soooo NOT a station wagon. Now THIS is a station wagon: And what a beast of a car might I add
31 PlaneWasted : That is not att SAAB if you ask me, it's not even sold in Sweden! The country SAAB was founded in. I think it's only sold in the USA.
32 Asuflyer05 : The only thing good coming out of Sweden these days are the women. IKEA is a close second. Have you seen the Mercedes E63 Wagon? I didn't even know t
33 Post contains images VonRichtofen : Oh man, what is with the automotive trends these days??? SUV's, now this shit?? Boring, bloated, awkward pieces of shit. Not quite a car, and not quit
34 Post contains links and images Superfly : Hardly. Now THESE are wagons!
35 Post contains images Francoflier : I actually sorta like those, they're like huge highway cruise ships. Just as big and maneuverable. They accelerate, brake, turn just as fast as the Q
36 Superfly : Those where not meant for speed. They were meant to haul around lots of people and cargo. You can fit those silly little German wagons in the back of
37 MCOflyer : Superfly, I could not agree more. When people say station wagons in todays terms, someone will say the audi. In the 80's and 70's someone will what yo
38 Post contains images Superfly : Thank you MCOflyer. Those were some real wagons. Dodge missed the mark with the Magnum. They should have pitched that car as an SUV alternative. It g
39 MCOflyer : Amen to that. The Magnum is nice when equipped with the Hemi but anything else does not belong in that car. I know for sure it is a fleet vehicle for
40 Srbmod : Several local police departments around the Atlanta area use them as cop cars. My biggest gripe with the Magnum is the roof line. If you over about 5
41 MCOflyer : I have seen them as UC's for FHP, Brevard County Sheriff. I agree and think that version would have been an instant hit. Hunter
42 Post contains images Greggarious : Oh, I beg to disagree: Still made in Gothenburg!
43 Post contains images Rlwynn : This is from Sweden.
44 JetsGo : They day I fork out the money for that, which could have been spent on a fine German or Japanese product, is the day I shoot my foot. It's just a pol
45 Post contains images Greggarious : Suit yourself! Admittedly, I'm as biased towards fine Sweedish automobiles as you seem to be towards fine German/Japanese products. My family drives
46 JetsGo : I've given up on Ford's name game. First after telling us the Taurus would end in 2006/7, it was the Five Hundred and Freestyle. Then out of no where
47 Greggarious : And it's a bloody shame, too. The (perceived) lack of direction has really bugged me with regards to Ford and their lineup. Not to mention that they
48 Flighty : I guess I am the only one who likes the looks of that Chevy Traverse. Looks like a really nice car to me.
49 Superfly : Same here. I agree. THe roof-line is the biggest problem with those. I don't liked the 'chopped-top' look anyways. Looks like 15 other vehicles alrea
50 Post contains images Zippyjet : FUGLY! The whole SUV/crossover fad has overstayed it's welcome. Just like lawyers, can't seem to get rid of them!
51 Francoflier : I know, and no pun intended, I actually do like them.
52 LOT767-300ER : Errr..This car has been out for a long time now. The Magnum is getting cut with this dealer/model consolidation Chrysler has got going on...oh well.
53 Francoflier : Are you saying that the American consumer is somehow 'forced' to buy these? There are plenty of both 'regular' SUVs and station wagons on the market
54 LOT767-300ER : I will go ahead and label everyone that drives a RAV4, CR-V or X3 a total idiot for you if youre scared. It pisses me off that these cars waste space
55 Srbmod : Already knew about the Magnum and the other Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep models poised to get the ax (Like the Crossfire, the Pacifica, and potentially even t
56 MCOflyer : Thank goodness the Caliber is not getting cut. I will replace it in about 5 years with another one. I love that car. A messed up Jeep with a Dodge lab
57 Post contains images SmithAir747 : Isn't buying a car somewhat like buying a casket/coffin? Both are decisions based at least partly on emotions! SmithAir747
58 MCOflyer : Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. For me it isn't as I do my research thus I know what I want. It took me 2 hours for me to decide on my Caliber (
59 Post contains images Superfly : How about buying the AMC Matador stationwagon with the 'coffin' bodystyle?
60 PHLBOS : IMHO, the Magnum had the right drivetrain (RWD), the right engines (HEMI), the right wheelbase (120") but the WRONG everything else. It was simply to
61 Post contains images Francoflier : I think I hate those just as much as you do, but maybe I wouldn't call them total idiots, since I'm sure some crossover buyers are actually pretty sm
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