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Popular Music Is DEAD...  
User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9180 posts, RR: 18
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1694 times:

Anyone watching the Grammies?

I just saw that "Rehab" won the "prestigious" song-of-the-year award. REHAB?!!! What a joke! My girlfriend and I liked the song "Hey there, Delilah," and thought that song was way more deserving of the award than that piece of dreck of a song. Why is it that all of the good songs don't get the proper recognition that they deserve, while songs about going into rehab after drugs/violence, or just songs about drugs and violence, all of those win the awards?

Also, back in 2003, Eminem won a fricking Oscar for his [c]rap song from the movie "8 Mile." What is wrong here???

I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.

your thoughts or opinions?


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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21406 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1689 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.

No worries - it'll come back to you trying to eat your brain...  mischievous 


User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1656 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.

your thoughts or opinions?

 checkmark 

I am watching the grammies right now and thinking exactly what you said.
Just stick to the BRIT awards they are much better.
The fact that The Foo Fighters actually win an award is besides me. They sound the same as hmm: Creed, That Daughtry Guy, and all other shout rockers.

 twocents 



Liam spin 


User currently offlineWestJetForLife From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 814 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1651 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I just saw that "Rehab" won the "prestigious" song-of-the-year award.

Good lord, this is ridiculous.

What's next? "Sweet Escape" winning "best song ever devised"? Britney Spears winning "role model of the year"?

This is why I refuse to listen to (terrestrial-based) radio anymore. Too much crap.

Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
My girlfriend and I liked the song "Hey there, Delilah," and thought that song was way more deserving of the award than that piece of dreck of a song.

Hey there, Delilah was really depressing, but at least it was better than Amy Whine-Horse singing about refusing to go to Rehab.

Nik



I need a drink.
User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3296 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1635 times:

The Grammys have been a farce since Jethro Tull won out Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance in 1989 over Metallica's "...And Justice For All" album.


"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3080 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Personally, I could care less what songs/albums win "awards." It won't change my opinion on what I like. I like what I like and no fruit case critic in Hollywood is going to change that.


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9180 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1575 times:



Quoting WestJetForLife (Reply 3):
Delilah was really depressing, but at least it was better than Amy Whine-Horse singing about refusing to go to Rehab.

I don't think it was that depressing. To me, it's about hope -- two people may not be able to be together in person, but they are in spirit. I can kinda relate to that song tho. There were times when we were apart from one another. It may not have been years or thousands of miles apart, but several months being separated by 240 miles of rivers, plains, and mountains is significant enough...

I agree that it doesn't make Amy Whine-whoever's song any better. That's pretty much all the song was. It was awful! If I was Plain White T's, I would be insulted!

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 5):
I like what I like and no fruit case critic in Hollywood is going to change that.

I like what I like as well. Maybe this is why I tend to avoid this crap. I don't know why I decided to watch it. Maybe because the only decent song to come along this year was up for song-of-the-year, only to see it get beat out by utter garbage...



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User currently offlineLufthansa411 From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1557 times:



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 5):
Personally, I could care less what songs/albums win "awards." It won't change my opinion on what I like. I like what I like and no fruit case critic in Hollywood is going to change that.

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I loved (sarcasm) the speech by the head of the organization that gives out the Grammys. His points about how they are preposing legislation to Washington to change the requirements for song payments could have easily been translated to "we are spending millions of dollars on lobbying in Washington to have them listen to our interests."

I thought we were supposed to be minimizing the lobbyists, not having Washington descend into Tammany Hall V2.0 (If it hasn't already gotten there).

Just proves again that the awards show is just another way to make money, and not about the music. The Bafta awards were much less "commercial" in my opinion.


Lufthansa411



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User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

Define "popular music". There are a few songs that have come out in the past year that I have downloaded off of iTunes. Keyword there. My choices of music are popular with me. I kinda find it ironic that what I few as popular is popular with the g/f and the friends at work. Amazing isn't it? But for all the (c)rap and all this other shit out there, IF I'm listening to the radio and any of this chud music comes on...it take all but 0.2 seconds to reach up and change the channel.

User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1524 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
opinion

If you can make something better, then go right ahead.



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User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1476 times:



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 5):
Personally, I could care less what songs/albums win "awards." It won't change my opinion on what I like. I like what I like and no fruit case critic in Hollywood is going to change that.

Amen....I like what I like when I like it...it may not be popular with the majority, but I'm not listening to the majority...I'm listening to My preferences.....and I never listen to critics anyway...windbags.



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17341 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1409 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
Anyone watching the Grammies?

There's your first problem Silly



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5633 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

I've been around long enough to recognise music snobbery when I see it, and it's alive and well and living on a.net, from the "What are you listening to" threads to some of the posts in here.

"Popular music" is by definition popular, so there's nothing wrong with Amy Winehouse winning with her catchy tune. She's a great singer, is a breath of fresh air at the moment, and her stuff is what sells. Personally I think she's great, and "Back to Black" is one of the best records of 2007. As long as she manages to stay above ground she'll do well. She has all the ingredients to form a lasting career, unlike so many of the recent "cool" groups/singers who have vanished into thin air.

The Plain White T''s "Delilah" is a good song, but nothing earth-shattering. It's like 1,000,000 other tracks by any number rock groups at the moment. The music industry is layered with snobbery and as soon as the newest indie group starts to, heaven forbid, become popular, the seriously trendy crowd will move on to the next new unknowns.

It's always been like that in the music business, and, sad to say, always will.


User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1368 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
I declare popular music officially dead as of right now.

It's been dead for a long time.

I'll repeat what I said in the Winehouse thread. Sting once said "Music is it's own reward". So very true. Any music award ceremony is just a big love-in for those who feel they need to be congratulated by their peers to feel secure in what they do.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13166 posts, RR: 78
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

Popular music, as defined by the traditional Record Company/Artist/Consumer relationship, is dying.
But Popular Music, enabled by the net in sites like MySpace, is in very rude health.

As to the awards, I don't take much notice, aside from the Mercury Prize in the UK usually around September, since that specifically has been about artistic merit, not sales.
Indeed, the very nomination for a prize, has lifted some sales from the low 1000's or less, to tens of 1000's or more.
Not that I always agree with the winners, take last years, The Klaxons , billed as innovative, I actually heard the album at a friend's at the weekend, my take was 'garage rock with a few bleeps'.
It was not bad, far from it.
I just thought Bat For Lashes (AKA one Natasha Khan) should have one last year, not really my thing musically but original, (plus I thought she is rather lovely!)

Then there was M-People winning in 1994.....grrrr!

However, each year, a lot of new artists get some press, which is the whole idea anyway.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1362 times:



Quoting Steeler83 (Thread starter):
Popular Music Is DEAD...

It's merely changing. Popular music is nowadays that supercommercial crap that you hear on the radio, things like reggaeton (  vomit  ), boy bands, Justin Timberlake, etc.

Real popular music, the one you're referring to, has been dead since the turn of the century.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13166 posts, RR: 78
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

Check out the charts from any 'golden age', then see how much shit was also there.
I judge it by how many gigs I go to, for the past few years, I've been going to a lot, usually 2-3 per month.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17341 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1347 times:



Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 13):
It's been dead for a long time.

Every generation has said this about the state of current music... There's a lot of crap music out there and there are a lot of stupid people with no taste Silly The correlation is not coincidental.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineDuff44 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1307 times:



Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):
The Grammys have been a farce since Jethro Tull won out Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance in 1989 over Metallica's "...And Justice For All" album.

The Grammy's were dead long before that... that just ran up the score.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21406 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1224 times:



Quoting GDB (Reply 16):
Check out the charts from any 'golden age', then see how much shit was also there.

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