Samurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4 Posted (12 years 2 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1125 times:
This just in:
As the IOC prepares for a press conference after the fiasco in awarding the Russians the gold medal in figure skating, when the Canadians, Jamie Sale and David Pelletier should gotten theirs, it's been announced that the IOC is going to give the Canadian pair gold medals after all.
The Russian pair will not have to forfeit their gold medals, however. Not that it's a bad thing - they were good skaters. It's the judges' fault, not the Russian pair's.
AirT85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days ago) and read 1068 times:
Im glad!! This was the right thing to do and they deserved it all teh way. Im also glad they awarded duplicate golds rather then stripping the russians of it, it wasnt the russians fault, but i think they got a lot of unnecessary flack. oh well, good job to the canadians!
4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2979 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 2 days ago) and read 1058 times:
I disagree Charles.
I think that this is the best solution to a messy situation. Otherwise the judges can never be held accountable for anything and the integrity of the Games is brought into question.
Ctbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1049 times:
I disagree too. Figure skating is far more subjective than refereeing football, where at least you have a clear objective rulebook against which to make determinations. Figure skating's judging standards are far more subjective and the problems with the biased, arbitrary and vaguely corrupt system of judging has been well known for years. The only difference here is that the judging in the pairs was was so blatent that action had to be taken.
And no, I don't believe the Russians should be stripped of their gold either. As someone above said, it was not their fault. I'm glad to see the Canadians finally recognized for what I believe was a better performance.
The customer isn't a moron, she is your wife -David Ogilvy
NikonF100 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1012 times:
FYI-Instant replay is still around in the NFL. You must have a timeout to use it, and if the call isn't changed, you loose the T/O. Watch the last 2 minutes of the New England vs. Oakland game at Foxboro. The instant replay caused NE to win...
Atb2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
Does anyone think this might have an effect on the way Bourne and Kraatz are judged in the ice dance? Maybe it will force the judges to smarten up and judge according to performance, mot country of origin. It could also have the reverse effect and they could finish outside the medals. It will be interesting to watch.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 976 times:
Excellent article below:
LEADS TO WINNING
Sat Feb 16, 4:41 AM ET
By ANDREA PEYSER
I COULDN'T skate a lutz to save my kneecaps, but I'm a world-class whiner.
So I demand an Olympic gold medal. And why not? This approach worked for the Canadian pairs figure skaters, a team that personifies the adage: If at first you don't succeed, cry, cry again.
In a dazzling performance, the Canadians yesterday beat stiff competition to win top marks in Olympic Moaning.
Until the last, mewling, foot-stamping second, the Canadians were neck-and-neck in the category with France's answer to Enron, figure-skating judge Marie-Reine Le Gougne.
To explain why she threw her vote in the pairs-skating finals to the Russian team, ruining Canada's chances for gold, Le Gougne cried that she was the victim of "manipulation." If there's one thing I can't stand more than a sniveling Canadian, it's a cowering Frenchwoman.
Quel mess, sports fans! These Olympic games are being interrupted by a little corruption. This is news?
We haven't seen such pathetic behavior at a Winter Olympics since knee-whacked ice babe Nancy Kerrigan used her fame to ridicule fellow skater Oksana Baiul for being a crybaby.
Yesterday, the International Olympic Committee caved in to pressure and awarded Canada a gold medal. Even before the announcement, Canadian Olympic Association president Mike Chambers said medal-makers assured him that Canada's silver medallion could be overlaid with gold within 24 hours!
The IOC must have thought this would calm things. But then, its members probably have never confronted 1,000 angry Russians freezing their axels off in alcohol-scarce Utah.
Awarding medals by coup solves nothing. Now, the IOC has no incentive to clean up its shabby shop when it can resolve conflicts by changing the color of a medal.
And this sets a rotten precedent.
What if fans don't like an umpire's call? Should two teams be entitled to win a World Series?
What if your kid spells a word wrong on the spelling bee? Try shouting that the spellings were culturally biased!
If the Canadians had any class, they'd refuse the gold. Ages ago, King Solomon settled a dispute over a baby by offering to split the infant in half. Then he gave the child to the parent who declined the offer.
Good thing gold medals aren't babies. If they were, Salt Lake City would be swimming in blood.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7928 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 947 times:
In my personal opinion, I think the IOC put its foot down because the Wednesday news conference held by the International Skating Union turned into a major fiasco for the ISU. If that news conference doesn't define stonewalling, I don't know what does.
Besides, having the ISU being compared to Enron wasn't going to help the ISU's case, either.