Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 52 Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
Should there be no distinction between "minors" and "adults"? Should minors get the same rights as adults? Should minors be held to the same standards of accountability as adults? Should minors get the same rights as adults but still be shielded from adult consequences?
This all ranges from Constitutional Rights to driving rights, to buying "adult" products to being subject to being jailed in an "adult" cell.
Lindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3052 posts, RR: 17 Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2613 times:
Turbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2588 times:
I am a minor (I'm 15). However I feel that I am mature enough to be responsible for myself. Sure, I wouldn't mind having the same rights as adults but I wouldn't mind having the same responsibilities as adults either. I know what I'm doing so for all I care, I can be criminally liable, I don't do wrong anyway.
-turbolet
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2580 times:
Turbolet:
Let me ask you something.
You are right at that age, ripe old 15. You SAY you are at that maturity level, which one could deduce that you have a certain amount of life "experience".
Jared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2573 times:
It sucked when I was under 18 and couldn't go to 18+ shows.
My parents would have gladly signed a disclaimer that said they understand I might die in the pit, or whatever, and that the club has no responsibility.
But it didn't work that way so it would be nice for kids maybe ages 16 and 17 to go to an 18+ show somehow.
IMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6049 posts, RR: 50 Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2544 times:
Minors already have the same rights as adults. They do not have the same priveliges though. As well they shouldn't.
I think a test for people to live in the southwest US should be no A/C in the car for a summer.
747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2734 posts, RR: 19 Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2541 times:
Rights/priviliges, yadda yadda yadda. Forgive my whimpering patriotism, but there's little difference. Okay, now that I've made my ignorance apparent, I'll talk about the topic...
No way in hell. There has to be some point at which we decide a person has the maturity to take of themselves, etc. If it's 15 for Turbolet and 29 for the next guy, fine. But that all goes back to the age-standardization objection.
"Mental health is reality at all cost." -- M. Scott Peck, 'The Road Less Traveled'
Sccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4884 posts, RR: 32 Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2536 times:
I am certain that teenagers are much dumber now than they were when I was one...
...but seriously, the ability to exhibit a modest degree of humility, to exercise judgment, to rely upon your life experiences- these are the things which define maturity and, in most instances, when you are younger you simply lack these experience-oriented characteristics.
But I knew better when I was young!
Full circle, right?
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
Indianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2527 times:
No. And i think that the *age of legal consent* should be raised to 21 rather than 18.
But i do believe strongly that an exception should be made incase of minors having to choose which parent they have to stay with in case of a divorce. In India, The children, in all fairness, ARE consulted, but their choice is not always adhered to.
The woman always gets to keep the child, almost without exception, which may not always be the best choice.
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 28 Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2513 times:
No....hell no. There is no shortage of stupid people on earth, and all of them are stupidest when they are minors. They definitely don't need to be viewed as equals of adults.
Metwrench From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 750 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2504 times:
Not only should minors not be granted the privileges of an adult, their parents should be held accountable for their children’s actions!
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 24 Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2504 times:
Minors have more rights than adults, and this is wrong.
Basically, a minor can do anything (s)he wants without being held responsible.
The parents will be held responsible, they claim the school is responsible who claim immunity on some ground.
This is of course wrong. According to the law, everyone should know the law. Therefore, a minor should know the consequences of his/her actions and be held responsible for them.
Maybe the punishment for violations should be different, not about to discuss that
Archie Bunker From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 401 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2485 times:
Turbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2477 times:
Matt D: that's a trick question you're putting. If I say yes, you'll insult me and make me look like an idiot. If I say no, you'll insult me for my previous post. So there.
What I was saying is that if I were taken as mature enough, I'm ready to be held responsible for all my actions, decisions etc. And if anyone wants to take criminal action against me, fine.
Now as regards the legal age, it's pretty much just a random number. Some people are mature and responsible at 12, others are irresponsible and childish at 30.
-turbolet
FlyinIsFreedom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2468 times:
Hey,
Even these forums owners put down youth just check out the rules where it say that if you are under 18 double check before you post becuase it has probably already been posted, well I made a topic about that and it got deleted they just cant take anyone critisizing them................
Bernard Shakey From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 558 posts, RR: 12 Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2463 times:
I would not want to be held responsible for some of the idiotic choices I made as a teen. We live and learn. As a teenager, you haven't done enough of either.
Mindless drifter on the road, Carries such an easy load
FlyinIsFreedom From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2449 times:
Hello,
Everyone makes mistakes look who robs most of the stores,banks,steals,etc ADULTS!
Yeah little punk 14 and 15 year olds do it also but not nearly as much. Just because you see one little brat 16 year old crajacking someone on TV that doesnt mean all of us are criminals so stop treating us like one, I can not even walk down the road at night without a cop driving by to stop and question me, and next time that happens I am just going to keep walking. I cant stand these ignorant people who see you walking by their houses at 10pm and call the cops saying you look suspisous. JERKS.................
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12412 posts, RR: 45 Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2440 times:
Well, the youth on this board sure did put up one hell of a defence. Can you imagine some of the 12yr olds around today behind the wheel of a car, or flying the aircraft your sitting in? Should children be able to sit in the front seat of your car when they are 4 years old? Should they be allowed a credit card when they are 10? Should a 10yr old be allowed to carry a gun? Is an 8 year old mature enough to insure his own toys?
Minors shouldn't have any more rights/privaledges than adults, I think the best age for defining minors from adults is all under 18 year olds as minors.
Although some things should be available younger (driving in the UK at 16, Alcohol in the US at 18 etc).
Access-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1938 posts, RR: 22 Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2438 times:
NO NO NO!!!
Can you Imagine the chaos???? The utter violence....Kids have too much clout now. They may have soem rights but until they turn 18 yrs of gae...kids will be kids,,,,,unless kids are willing to go out and actually work instead of having mommy and daddy support them.....cut the apron strings and then well talk......alsio kids are too fatalistic and have no sense of knowong that they cant just go out and do anyting....Kids have this idea that they are indestructabel and that nothinhg can get them....we dont need that attitude.....driving cars.....[part of the reason why drivers under 25 have higer insurance rates,.......You dont start feeling like you can actually die or begine to be responsible until around age 25 or 26.....ive been there and ive lived it.....
Clipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 15 Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2419 times:
Minors=No rights (They dont desreve any. Thats why they call them minors.)
Adults=Experience and knowledge. Thats why we call them A D U L T S!
Just take a look at these forums and you will understand.
What a silly sugestion....minors...rights... pffffh!
Turbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2406 times:
Let's bring some tangible examples.
The regulations of the passport office (Malta) state that people under 16 have to have their passports picked up by their parent/guardian.
Now, just because I'm 15, isn't it kinda stupid that my dad should go away from work early three times (to fit in with the Office's hours) and accompany me to the office? Can't I pick up my own passport myself? Do they consider me stupid enough to tear it up on my way home?
-turbolet
25 Dasa: Turbolet, the problem with giving minors the same rights as adults is, the majority of minors would abuse those rights. I am not talking about trivial
26 Seb146: That depends on what law you are talking about. In the broadest sense, a minor can walk down the street in mid afternoon for no reason. However, US la
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