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Obama Now Leading On Delegate Count  
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

Its official, and this includes super delegates. Without them, he is leading by about 100.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#val=D


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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1951 times:
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Go Obama?



Odds when Hillary will drop out?



User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1945 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 1):

Odds when Hillary will drop out?

This is going to the convention floor if Obama doesn't win it outright during the primaries.



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User currently offlineMsl747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1941 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
This is going to the convention floor if Obama doesn't win it outright during the primaries.

If she can't pull off Texas and Ohio, the odds aren't looking good...



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1937 times:
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Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
doesn't win it outright during the primaries.

$5 says he takes Texas on 4 March.


User currently offlineN521NA From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

And that lead is going to keep growing as more delegates are counted from today's results.

User currently offlineA332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

I figure Obama will win it in the primaries.... and he also has the best shot at winning the presidency out of the two.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1912 times:



Quoting Msl747 (Reply 3):

If she can't pull off Texas and Ohio, the odds aren't looking good...

Anyone know how they are polling right now?



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1912 times:



Quoting A332 (Reply 6):


I figure Obama will win it in the primaries.... and he also has the best shot at winning the presidency out of the two.

He is consistently beating McCain in the head to head polls.



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User currently offlineMsl747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1903 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
Anyone know how they are polling right now?

They only ones I can find are from December and show Clinton with a good lead, but I would imagine that the gap has narrowed significantly since then...



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User currently offlineN521NA From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
Anyone know how they are polling right now?

Clinton is ahead by 17% in the most recent poll. I suspect that lead will drop as more campaigning is done in the state as has generally been the case.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...h/ohio_democratic_primary-263.html

Edit: To clarify, Im talking about Ohio. Texas polling has not been done yet.

[Edited 2008-02-12 19:26:01]

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1884 times:



Quoting N521NA (Reply 10):
Clinton is ahead by 17% in the most recent poll.

Interesting. I wonder how PA looks.

Quoting N521NA (Reply 10):
Texas polling has not been done yet.

Yeah, and I am surprised at that.

Quoting Msl747 (Reply 9):
but I would imagine that the gap has narrowed significantly since then...

That has been the general trend.



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1882 times:
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Quoting A332 (Reply 6):
he also has the best shot at winning the presidency out of the two.

Agreed.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
He is consistently beating McCain in the head to head polls.

Source please? Neither even have a VP...

[Edited 2008-02-12 19:37:10]

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1872 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 12):

Source please? Neither even have a VP...

Check out RealClearPolitics, as linked above.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

It is increasingly looking back for HRC. Just this weekend Obama swept, and now during the Potomac primaries Obama swept. Despite losing Cali, which is no doubt one of the most important states to win in terms of delegates and superdelegates that can be obtained, Obama is having more and more momentum going. The only other remaining question is who will be his or her running mate. Maybe it's not the time to make a decision, but it would be good to know who has a chance of becoming VPOTUS nominee for November.

Even with the current close result, IMO November will be a decision between Obama and McCain.


User currently offlineN521NA From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1861 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 12):
Source please? Neither even have a VP...

McCain vs. Obama
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo..._election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

McCain vs. Clinton
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...lection_mccain_vs_clinton-224.html


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1838 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 14):
Despite losing Cali

Colombia had a vote?  Wink Clinton did herself a favor by bagging California, New York and New Jersey, but Obama's success in the sheer number of states won combined with still respectable delegate showings in the states he lost have helped build him up.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13197 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

In the 3 primary states tonight, Obama seems to be doing better than Clinton with many voting groups, including Hispanics and women who Clinton had expected to win with. Obama is getting an overwhelming amount of the Black vote. But I think what is really getting Obama his numbers is getting much higher numbers than usual to go to the primary elections and caucuses, especially from younger voters (under 30's) and Black voters. I would also suggest that Obama's message of the future, cooperation, hope and we is doing a lot better than the past (the 90's), a top down fight, wish and I of Clinton.

It may come down to Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania as the only chance for Clinton, but even then, the proportional allocation of electors in the Democratic primaries and caucuses may not give her enough votes to win the nomination without the Superdelegates. It is also possible for Obama to get enough regular delegates to win before the convention. As a student of Political Science, I am in heaven with this year's primary process.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1795 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
He is consistently beating McCain in the head to head polls.

Those Realclearpolitics polls you referenced are still very close, and McCain leads in one - add the margin of error to most and they become undetermined - nobody is winning just yet.




-NWA742


User currently offlineN521NA From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1776 times:



Quoting NWA742 (Reply 18):

Those Realclearpolitics polls you referenced are still very close, and McCain leads in one - add the margin of error to most and they become undetermined - nobody is winning just yet.

That's true, but it can't just be chance that Clinton consistently does worse against McCain than Obama.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1772 times:



Quoting N521NA (Reply 19):
That's true, but it can't just be chance that Clinton consistently does worse against McCain than Obama.

Correct, seeing as how Obama is currently giving Bilary a huge run for his and her money.




-NWA742


User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1769 times:
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I read a lot of articles, not just the realclearpolitics, and apparently McCain and Clinton have a very close relationship and as a matter of fact, McCain is pretty tight with Obama too. McCain would beat Clinton with ease - the other race would be very close.

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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1755 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 21):
McCain would beat Clinton with ease - the other race would be very close.

Completely agree. The Republicans were smart to pick McCain early. He's the best they have.

Remember in 2000, McCain had skin cancer. People thought he would live thru 1 term in office. Today, he looks great 8 years later. Amazing. He is 71 but acts 41.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1752 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 21):
McCain would beat Clinton with ease - the other race would be very close.

I tend to agree. Right now I'm just pulling for Hilabit...HILARY, the human wasteland that she and her prick of a husband are, to have their campaign implode.




-NWA742


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1710 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 21):
I read a lot of articles, not just the realclearpolitics, and apparently McCain and Clinton have a very close relationship and as a matter of fact, McCain is pretty tight with Obama too.

All three of them tend to be willing to work with others and have formed good relationships. Hillary's best friend in the Senate is probably Sam Brownback, another Republican.

Quoting FXramper (Reply 21):
McCain would beat Clinton with ease

I don't agree with you there. Remember how Bill pulled out ahead during his national campaign.



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25 Post contains images DeltaOwnsAll : where in the world is this bullocks coming from...mccain's delegate representation is not at all proportional to his support within the party. not to
26 Itsonlyme : I saw a couple of people on tv doing the math, saying that Clinton would have to win TX and OH with something like 60% of the vote to offset the leads
27 JetBlueGuy2006 : The polls I saw was Clinton had a good margin. If you look at the total results, she was still winning with white women, but not women overall. I thi
28 Post contains images RJdxer : Wow, are you all in?
29 Flighty : It's his biggest asset IMO. Americans are not in love with national politicians. Not any of them. Not right now. Well, just McCain. Who cares about h
30 KPWM : Good, Good, and Good. I really hope he beats out Hillary.
31 N1120A : I think she will probably win those two states no matter what. What will be interesting is by how much, because Obama could still walk away with a si
32 NIKV69 : The DNC asked you to hold your Primary a little later, if you had olbliged then MI and FL would be in play. Whether the DNC will approve your petitio
33 N1120A : Yes, that is already apparent. Hillary leads in the SD count by about 100, but it seems that more and more superdelegates are starting to drift towar
34 FriendlySkies : Latest numbers on CNN show that lead is down to about 75 (234 to 157)
35 RJpieces : Source?
36 Post contains links N1120A : I shouldn't have to do your work for you. Try googling it. Here is a site I otherwise think is ridiculous talking about it. http://www.faithinpublicl
37 JetBlueGuy2006 : I hope you blame that on the governor and legislator. I am pissed that they did that, and I hope that the DNC realizes how big of a blow it could be
38 FriendlySkies : It's not the point. It's unfortunate for the voters that the two states governments wanted more national attention. But, if the DNC allows their dele
39 RJpieces : I shouldn't have to read opinions passed off as fact, but the world isn't perfect. I did. When I saw that what you wrote was misleading and based on
40 Tsaord : I'm supporting Hillary. If she looses both Texas and Ohio then I do not know what I'm going to do. This was my first time voting ever and now my candi
41 N521NA : She won Nevada.
42 N521NA : If Hillary ends up losing, I strongly suggest you take another look at Senator Obama. His ideas are the same as Clinton's with minor differences, and
43 RW170 : I agree, the votes should not count. But if the DNC decided to count MI and FL, how would that work? Hillary and Dennis Kucinich were the only two ca
44 N1120A : One, note that I included the word probably. Second, my other source is someone who worked as a political consultant for the Clintons before we enter
45 Tsaord : Right. I stand corrected.
46 Tsaord : He is inspiring and that doesn't show me he can run this country based on some feel good words.
47 N521NA : Well, I hope you change your mind watching the upcoming debates. If you still have the same opinion, I'll respect that.
48 Travelin man : And Hillary Clinton can because she was First Lady? I really don't get the whole "Hillary Clinton has sooooo much experience" argument.
49 NIKV69 : Oh I know it's the state officials but what is done is done. Howard Dean has inherited huge headache. The states would petition to have them count an
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