Makes you wonder why the international community and Africa won't put more pressure on Mugabe. Zimbabwe was once a sucess story for Africa and look at what he has done.
Come to think of it, I may have confused 70,000% with 7000% a few months ago.
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 2): the "Internationaler Währungsfond" (don't know the English term) actually estimates inflation in Zimbabwe to be at 150.000
Holy shit! Is the International Monetary Fund serious, 150,000%?
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 2): Mugabe should've gotten a bullet into the head years ago.
Pyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3537 posts, RR: 28 Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 751 times:
Quoting SeansasLCY (Thread starter): Zimbabwe was once a sucess story for Africa and look at what he has done.
I believe what you meant was rather "Africa was a success story when the whites were in charge and now that the blacks have the control it is all screwed."
The fact is, despite going downhill, Zimbabwe is only now reaching the levels of some other African countries. And overall, on the grand scheme of things, Mugabe is just your run-of-the-mill African dictator, no better or no worse than most others in charge. The fact that he is getting all this flak in international summits while other dictators are wined and dined is merely a reflection of how mad Tony Blair and pal got when he expelled his farmer friends - had the farmers he expelled been black no-one would have paid notice.
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A380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 700 times:
Wait so what is i worth roughly compared to the USD?
MUWarriors From United States of America, joined May 2005, 290 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 685 times:
Quoting A380US (Reply 5): Wait so what is i worth roughly compared to the USD?
1USD = 30,000 Zimbabwe Dollars. In 1980 one Zimbabwe Dollar was worth more than one USD. Of course this isn't really accurate because with an official inflation rate of over 60,000%, and a real inflation rate of over 100,000% their money is, for all intents and purposes, worthless outside of Zimbabwe.
Quoting Pyrex (Reply 4): I believe what you meant was rather "Africa was a success story when the whites were in charge and now that the blacks have the control it is all screwed."
If that is what he meant he was mistaken. Zimbabwe was well run, and was Africa's jewel until around 2000, 20 years after independence. But Mugabe's policies since than have ruined the economy to the extent where 80% of people in the country live below the poverty line. A loaf of bread costs more than 7% of an average worker's monthly salary.
Quoting Pyrex (Reply 4): The fact is, despite going downhill, Zimbabwe is only now reaching the levels of some other African countries.
False. The life expectancy for a woman in Zim is 34 years (largely due to AIDS, but Mugabe's policies on AIDS have been horrible, to be fair many other African leaders are in the same boat on that one) which is the lowest in the world. Their inflation rate is the highest in the world, and likely the highest non-wartime inflation since Germany between the World Wars. Famine rules the country on what were once some of the most fertile and productive farms in Africa. Zimbabwe is the bottom of the barrel now, which is a shame because it held so much potential. It is not a black vs. white thing, it is a leader who started out as a fine leader for a new country letting power go to his head and messing the whole thing up.
Quoting Pyrex (Reply 4): And overall, on the grand scheme of things, Mugabe is just your run-of-the-mill African dictator, no better or no worse than most others in charge. The fact that he is getting all this flak in international summits while other dictators are wined and dined is merely a reflection of how mad Tony Blair and pal got when he expelled his farmer friends - had the farmers he expelled been black no-one would have paid notice.
I have to believe any economy that has collapsed the way Zimbabwe's has would be noticed regardless of who the farmers were.
Slider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6518 posts, RR: 37 Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 676 times:
Quoting Pyrex (Reply 4): I believe what you meant was rather "Africa was a success story when the whites were in charge and now that the blacks have the control it is all screwed."
If the shoe fits...
See, I don't care about being poltically correct. That SOB Mugabe should be taken out, period. The UN Debating Club and Coffee House is too busy shaking down 1st world countries for dough about global warming and other scams, whilst true needs around the world are summarily ignored. Zimbabwe, Rwanda, et al, all epitomize just how spineless and gutless the UN is.
Time for someone to just go in and take control. Say what you will about old Euro colonialism, but there are a lot of benefits that exist today because of that. Freaking Zimbabwe needs some civilization, and yes, I'm willing to go on the pretentious limb to say that civilization can't be what it is right now, because that isn't civilized.
ScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1486 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 644 times:
i remember reading about hyperinflation on wikipedia a while ago. unfortunately, economics and me don't jive, and i dont fully understand it, but here are some of the crazy inflations of the past:
Rates of inflation of several hundred percent per month are often seen. Extreme examples include:
* Germany in 1923 when the rate of inflation hit 3.25 ×10^6 percent per month (prices double every 49 hours)
* Greece during its occupation by German troops (1941-1944) with 8.55 × 10^9 percent per month (prices double every 28 hours).
* The most severe known incident of inflation was in Hungary after the end of World War II at 4.19 × 10^16 percent per month (prices double every 15 hours).
* More recently, Yugoslavia suffered 5 × 10^15 percent inflation per month (prices double every 16 hours) between 1 October 1993 and 24 January 1994.
SeansasLCY From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2007, 717 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 616 times:
Quoting MUWarriors (Reply 6): Zimbabwe was well run, and was Africa's jewel until around 2000, 20 years after independence. But Mugabe's policies since than have ruined the economy to the extent where 80% of people in the country live below the poverty line.
This is what i meant, i was not talking about black people or white people just the fact Zimbabwe in general was doing very well, now however Zimbabwe is in ruins.
SBBRTech From Brazil, joined Jul 2007, 722 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 591 times:
Oh, the godforsaken old days of hyper inflation. I remember my parents rushing to the supermarket seconds after getting their paychecks 'cos money was losing value by the minute ( the record high happened in 1989: inflation rate in Brazil was 1972,91% ).
You could be reaching for a product in one end of the aisle while the market staff was tagging higher prices on the other end. Every now and then a new currency was issued and zeros were cut (from 1942 to 1995: 10 different currencies).
If 2.000% was bad I can't begin to imagine what is to live under 150.000%...Mugabe must be deleted now!
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