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Arsenal Footballer De Silva All But Loses Foot  
User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5717 times:

Arsenal footballer Eduardo de Silva footballer has been rushed to hospital after receiveing a horrific challenge from Martin Taylor of Birmingham City who was immediately sent of.

From the photos i've seen his foot was virtually ripped off. The players and physios looked disturbed as they saw the damage.

This photo is the point of impact which gives you and idea of what occurred as the challenge went through. It's not yet graphic but the implications are quite horrific, so view with caution.

These days he may well recover and play again, but the physical and mental impact of the event mean he may never be the prospering player he could have been.

Really hoping for the best for the guy.

BBC report

[Edited 2008-02-23 06:29:43]

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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5708 times:

i posted something about this as well, but u put in more info.

Here's the photo i put, it really looks horrible.

http://kingmeng.liquidblade.com/?p=570

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

Thinking back to Dave Busst's injury, the most crucial aspect seems to have been infection from the ground rather than the actual injury. Fingers crossed.

User currently offlineBlueElephant From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 1813 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5685 times:

Wow..that looks really painful...pretty disturbing actually...

I really hope he's ok...
hoping that he actually gets to play football again.


User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5675 times:

Terrible injury.

Although I've only seen the pictures and and what is described on the news, when a player makes a challenge like this, is there a case for investigation and possible prosecution?



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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3865 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5666 times:



Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 4):
Although I've only seen the pictures and and what is described on the news, when a player makes a challenge like this, is there a case for investigation and possible prosecution?

Yes, investigations can be carried out by the police and charges can be brought against the challenging player - just because it happens on the pitch doesn't mean standard laws don't apply.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12380 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5658 times:
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Quoting RJ111 (Thread starter):

He has a broken leg, yes? He's not the first, and won't be the last. At what point did he nearly lose his foot?

Quoting RJ111 (Thread starter):
is there a case for investigation and possible prosecution?

Won't happen. Roy Keane wasn't prosecuted for his horror challenge on Alf Inge Haaland, even after admitting in his book that it was deliberate.



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User currently offlineAviationMaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2479 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5645 times:

Horrible injury, about as bad as they can come - this injury brings back memories of Cissé's terrible injuries.  covereyes 

Here's to a full recovery!  pray 


User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3032 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5640 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 5):
Yes, investigations can be carried out by the police and charges can be brought against the challenging player - just because it happens on the pitch doesn't mean standard laws don't apply.

It did not seem deliberate, so I wouldn't think charges would be brought against Taylor. I can almost guarantee that Taylor will go visit Eduardo in hospital.

This is the worst photo I could find

Big version: Width: 449 Height: 280 File size: 44kb


I heard from someone, don't know where their source is, that the hospital is predicting about 13% chance of him playing football again.

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5621 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 6):
He has a broken leg, yes? He's not the first, and won't be the last. At what point did he nearly lose his foot?

I won't post the photo i've seen which is different to the one above - the man deserves more dignity. But his his foot is barely on his leg. It's quite shocking to see. Just my immediate reaction to seeing it.


User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12380 posts, RR: 47
Reply 10, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5591 times:
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Quoting RJ111 (Reply 9):
I won't post the photo i've seen which is different to the one above - the man deserves more dignity. But his his foot is barely on his leg. It's quite shocking to see. Just my immediate reaction to seeing it.

I understand, and a clean double-break of the lower leg will basically leave the foot just flopping around, which, when you're not used to seeing it, is a vomit-worthy sight.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 8):
I heard from someone, don't know where their source is, that the hospital is predicting about 13% chance of him playing football again.

Frankly, I'd be very surprised if anyone at the hospital would be making a public prognosis so soon (especially if it is as bad as that).



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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5564 times:
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It was a horrific injury, i haven't seen an Arsenal player suffer an injury that serious for a long time. The tackle was terrible, he had his studs raised meaning an instant red card. At first glance i didn't realise the injury was that serious, only when Andy Gray mentioned they weren't going to show any replays that i realised.

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 10):
I understand, and a clean double-break of the lower leg will basically leave the foot just flopping around, which, when you're not used to seeing it, is a vomit-worthy sight.

Let's not get technical, this is a career-threatening injury whichever way you look at it, Eduardo's leg was basically snapped in two. Djibrill Cisse, Alan Smith and Henrik Larsson all made full recoveries from similar injuries, let's hope Eduardo does the same but's early days. There's been no news from the hospital yet. It's a terrible shame as Eduardo has been playing well and had struck up a decent partnership with Adebayor. We need Van Persie back big time.



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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3521 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5539 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 6):
He has a broken leg, yes? He's not the first, and won't be the last. At what point did he nearly lose his foot?



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 10):

I understand, and a clean double-break of the lower leg will basically leave the foot just flopping around, which, when you're not used to seeing it, is a vomit-worthy sight.

Yes - it's a tough injury, but he'll be alright.

I broke my leg in almost the exact same spot, in almost the exact same way in 2003. Right at the base of the tibia (shinbone), immediately above the ankle. A friend of mine came down with me after jumping up and his leg moved in on mine and got me right there. It's actually a very easy place to break a bone, if all the forces come together in the right way. (and the easiest way, the docs told me, was someone else's foot coming down at a perpendicular angle like the first photo)

When I tried to stand up I fell right down and felt the most ridiculous amount of pain ever. I looked at my foot, and it was hanging off my leg at about 30 degrees to the right, just flopping there. It was quite the sight.

Turns out it was a spiral fracture, went about an inch and a half up my shin bone, and the force of the trauma came around and broke my fibula too. This guy definitely has a tib/fib combo, but probably not much more than that.

I didn't even need surgery (I also was 1.5 hours away from one of the top 5 orthopedic hospitals in the country - thanks UIHC!), and after one month in a full leg cast, one month in a knee cast and a month wearing a boot, I was given a clean bill of health.

I've an interesting looking lump on my shinbone now, and my right leg's calf muscle still doesn't look as lean or fit as my left, but for all intents and purposes, that leg is stronger now than it was before.

He'll be alrite.



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5530 times:



Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 11):
Djibrill Cisse, Alan Smith and Henrik Larsson all made full recoveries from similar injuries

I'm sure they must already have had partial fractures, given how easily they broke. I suspect it's worse when a healthy bone is snapped as suddenly as that - I'm no expert, though. I'm sure many skiers, for example, get injuries as horrific but many recover well, as long as the wound isn't badly infected.


User currently offlineB78710 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5514 times:

didn't really think it was that bad a challenge!

didn't look malicious, wasn't two footed, i honestly think he just got it wrong!

i was surprised to see a red tbh, thought he might even get away with it not being a booking in the 2nd min!

though to be fair, i've only seen it once in full speed as they weren't showing replays!


User currently offlineB78710 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5498 times:



Quoting David L (Reply 13):

Cisse came close to losing his leg (the first time)

apparantly where his bone snapped it clamped onto the major artery in his leg, not allowing blood to flow!

they reckon if the physio hadn't pulled his leg apart at the side of the pitch he would have lost his leg!


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26357 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4435 times:



Quoting Scbriml (Reply 10):

I understand, and a clean double-break of the lower leg will basically leave the foot just flopping around, which, when you're not used to seeing it, is a vomit-worthy sight.

It looked terrible, but it is amazing what modern medicine can do.

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 11):
Djibrill Cisse, Alan Smith and Henrik Larsson all made full recoveries from similar injuries

Cisse even broke his again.

Quoting Arsenal@LHR (Reply 11):
We need Van Persie back big time.

You guys should have never sold the best striker in the world  Wink



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 17, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4428 times:



Quoting B78710 (Reply 15):
Cisse came close to losing his leg (the first time)

apparantly where his bone snapped it clamped onto the major artery in his leg, not allowing blood to flow!

Well, OK, I didn't know that but it was a secondary complication. The point I was making is that the actual break can't really be compared to the other examples cited as it happened in a different way.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4421 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Reply 12):
Yes - it's a tough injury, but he'll be alright.

There's a bit of a difference between it being repaired so that you and I can carry on with a normal life, and repairing it to the extent that someone can play professional football again, and at the very highest level too.

Hopefully he will be fine, but a full recovery in a normal person isn't quite the same as what is needed here.



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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12380 posts, RR: 47
Reply 19, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4387 times:
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Quoting Banco (Reply 18):
Hopefully he will be fine, but a full recovery in a normal person isn't quite the same as what is needed here.

Absolutely, it would be great to see him playing in Arsenal's first game next season. yes 

But, one does need to keep in mind that career-ending injuries are a risk associated with almost all professional sport (even non-contact sports like golf and tennis). I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but the risk is always there.



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User currently offlineDavehammer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

Good luck to the guy and I hope he will be up playing again. I'd hate to be Martin Taylor at the moment. Yep Arsenal need Van Persie back but since he's been there he's been doing a brilliant Darren Anderton impression. I cant see that changing to be honest.

All in all good luck Eduardo.


User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4298 times:

Oh no! That'll be a hell of a blow to Croatia's campaign this year... I was hoping to see them do well. Maybe they will anyway... and he still has a few months to get it working again...

At least it looks like a clean break - get well, Eduardo!

Quoting Davehammer (Reply 20):
Darren Anderton

Who?  Wink

Toni



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4270 times:



Quoting Davehammer (Reply 20):
Yep Arsenal need Van Persie back but since he's been there he's been doing a brilliant Darren Anderton impression

 checkmark  I've had him in my Fantasy League team since the start of the season and he's been "on the verge of a comeback" for weeks now. I daren't get rid of him in case he does make a comeback and someone else snaps him up.  banghead 


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3521 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4268 times:



Quoting Banco (Reply 18):
There's a bit of a difference between it being repaired so that you and I can carry on with a normal life, and repairing it to the extent that someone can play professional football again, and at the very highest level too.

Hopefully he will be fine, but a full recovery in a normal person isn't quite the same as what is needed here.

Yes, of course - more healing is required for a leg like his. But as long as there's no blood vessel or nerve damage, his leg, ankle and foot should be able to give it a go again next year.

It'd be better for his overall health if they don't have to do surgery, because it's much better if your body can do it's own healing. But since it's a sports injury, and sports medicine concentrates on quick recovery, he's probably already had a surgery or two by now.



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9523 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4233 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Reply 23):
But since it's a sports injury, and sports medicine concentrates on quick recovery, he's probably already had a surgery or two by now.

Would a break like that be treated without surgery? Again stressing that I'm no expert, I'd have thought there would be some "jagged ends" to deal with and perhaps some bone fragments to remove, at the very least.


25 Planespotting : I'm only an expert on what happened to me - but from the photos, the injury looked very similar. His foot was hanging off at about the same angle, al
26 Fiatstilojtd : Maybe a little bit off topic but has anyone seen the injury of ski-racer Hermann Maier after his motorcycle collision with the german guy...this was m
27 LTU932 : I was about to mention Cissé and how he broke his leg before the World Cup. That was already a horrible sight to see. And for those who say he shoul
28 B78710 : he broke his other leg a year or 2 before that aswell! at blackburn!
29 David L : I assumed that was the one we were talking about earlier - it's certainly the one I was referring to. I didn't see the later one though, after just c
30 Post contains links KPWM : Here's a link to the video if you can stomach it. I didn't want to embed it due to graphic images. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4921848301
31 SandroZRH : A horrible tackle and a real shame to see Eduardo might have his career go down the wastebin. All the best for a fast recovery. in a post-game intervi
32 LTU932 : I was just watching a few more vids of that, and I agree, Taylor should be banned by FIFA for life. I mean, he didn't even bother to go to Eduardo and
33 Arsenal@LHR : Well the Birmingham City player did visit Eduardo in hospital today which was a nice touch and the right thing to do. But his "tackle" has still left
34 LTU932 : While it was the right thing to do, my question remains: why didn't Martin Taylor do anything to at least apologise to Eduardo or the other players o
35 Arsenal@LHR : On the BBC 606 forums i saw a picture showing Martin Taylor apparently SMILING as he was getting up after the tackle, don't know what to make of it th
36 A380US : OWWWWW Thats gotta hurt!
37 Banco : Oh come off it with the "ban him for life" nonsense you lot. Even Wenger, who actually managed to see something that happened on the pitch for once, r
38 Bravo45 : I agree, but would also say just a single red card is not really fitting the foul here. Not sure if Wenger was being honest, of being head of the clu
39 Banco : It was perfectly fitting. A red card and nothing more was all it deserved. It was a poor tackle, but the outcome is not relevant. It was neither reck
40 Post contains images Bravo45 : Hmm... Saw the video posted above and you do seem to have a point there too, especially because the actual video of it was not very clear as to how d
41 N1120A : Do you really think that was the time or place for such a thing? Eduardo needed medical attention, not apologies from Taylor. I think the move he mad
42 AR385 : My brother plays goal keeper in various amateur leagues here. He told me that it was a bad tackle, certainly malicious. I'm no expert so I don't know.
43 LTU932 : I know. I'm not disputing that. This is why I said at least an apology to the players (like the captain) or even to the manager. It's the initial ind
44 OHLHD : The idiot that injured Eduardo should be banned as long as De Silva can´t play!
45 Oli80 : I do quite like this idea, however, how do they prove it was deliberate? Or doesn't it matter, do they ban them regardless of that?
46 OHLHD : I remember such a case from Romania where a player injured the other so bad that he was banned as long as the other can´t play and the player never
47 Scbriml : Come on guys, where's the common sense gone? The tackle was no worse than poor, the outcome very unfortunate. In every game you'll see players diving
48 CXfirst : I will be really surprised if anything more happened. Are you sure Taylor knew how bad an injury it was? In almost every game, there are players that
49 OHLHD : BS, such a foul in the second minute is by no way a everyday happening! What the heck was he thinking??? Fouls like that have nothing to do with spor
50 Post contains links RJ111 : Positive news today. http://www.javno.com/en/sports/clanak.php?id=126394
51 B78710 : i've seen numerous tackle far worse than that one this season alone that have not even been punished with red cards! every week tackles go flying in t
52 B78710 : its very hard to get a true impression from a still photo of something like that! could just as easily be a grimace!
53 Post contains images Scbriml : I don't know how much football you watch, but you can see far worse tackles than that every week.
54 OHLHD : I do watch a lot but this has nothing to do with Football even considering that Football in England is tougher then on Continental Europe. You don´t
55 Arsenal@LHR : Everybody keeps mentioning that we see these type of tackles every week, but you are missing the point, eventually a player will end up seriously hur
56 Davehammer : Problem with tackling is that the punishment system is a joke. Gallas kicking Nani from behind last week was not only violent conduct but plain coward
57 Scbriml : Don't get me wrong, I am not defending bad tackling, I am simply telling you tackles like that are made every week, and not just in England. I am tal
58 Post contains images B78710 : i immedietly thought of this when i read wengers comments: but that was golden boy henry so im sure it wasnt malicious in the slightest!   wonder if
59 B78710 : or how about this little beauty? i'm sure eboue was going for the ball!
60 RJ111 : He should have kept his studs down, this is what can happen. There's no way taylor set out to break edu's leg, would not suprise me if he intentionall
61 B78710 : at everton? very similar to henry's i posted above! cant find a you tube clip of it, but from memory, the only thing in his defence was he did tuck h
62 LTU932 : But even when something like Eduardo's injury happens, it will unfortunately be forgotten after a few weeks, and then it's business as usual. In the
63 WrenchBender : Have a mandatory post match review and then have the FA/EPL handing down additional games suspension (1-10) beside what is incurred from the Ref's Ye
64 LTU932 : That's a pretty good idea. We do have something like that in the Bundesliga. It was originally introduced to catch divers though, but I'm sure it cou
65 Post contains images 767Lover : It is highly likely that in the chaos of the play and the red card, he didn't realize how serious things were. Why can't anyone give him the benefit
66 B78710 : how about we just go back to how football should be fucking played! a man's sport played by men not a bunch of fucking tarts who are scared of a rough
67 WrenchBender : The real men play rugby, not Wanker round ball WrenchBender
68 AR385 : He's been a goal-keeper for 22 years in amateur leagues. I believe he is pretty much an expert.
69 Post contains images B78710 : how the hell does playing in goal for amateur teams for 22 years enable you to judge whats going on inside someones mind and decide weather what they
70 AR385 : You don't need to get into someone's mind to determine that. That sounds crazy. But a professional player does not reach that level not knowing how t
71 Post contains links Scbriml : For those that deny tackles like Taylor's (and worse) go on week-in and week-out, here's an interesting comment from Slaven Billic (Croatia Coach): ht
72 CXfirst : I didn't mean any disrespect, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot more football experts in the world, many (most) who have a totally different view f
73 OHLHD : I know that those tackles are done every week and it seems like as if the others have more luck. Probably they should punish harder..... I just read
74 Fiatstilojtd : Hi OHLHD, there is also some gossip spreading that De Silva will come to Austria for Rehab.
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