PacNWJet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4505 times:
Several years ago Condé Nast Traveler magazine ran an article about places that were too dangerous for the average tourist to visit. The article was published at a time when the level of violence in Colombia caused by drug cartels was at its height. About Colombia the article stated succinctly, “Not even for thrill seekers.” I believe the level of violence in Colombia has gone way down since the article was published, but an interesting question arises, what places are too dangerous for you to visit?
UAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4446 times:
Quoting Aloges (Reply 3): Iraq, Afghanistan, Darfur, Somalia, Chechnya, East Timor, Haiti... and if you include ethical considerations, there's North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, the rest of Sudan, Libya, Russia and many more.
Okay, I understand Afghanistan, Darfur, Somalia, Chechnya(Mabye) East Timor, North Korea, Sudan, but Libya, China, Saudi Arabia and Russia?
China is absolutely safe, been there, lived there, Russia is safe, and Saudi is actually safe as well, just have to remember the country's customs.
Ironically, many Japanese consider the US a dangerous place to visit, and many of the countries of the world have travel warnings for people headed to the US, mainly due to bigotry, the lack of foreign language speakers, and hatred and intolerance.
767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4422 times:
A few years ago my husband and I traveled to Bogota to attend the wedding of a friend. He was an American marrying a native of Bogota.
What we were told by the bride herself (the native) was to not, under any circumstances, leave the main urban areas of the city of Bogota -- even with our driver, who was taking us around for the weekend. She said the likelihood was very high that on the rural roads, the car would be pulled over and we would be "detained" indefinitely.
That said, I didn't feel unsafe at all in the city. I even wandered around by myself for a few hours around lunchtime on a business day, and never once felt uncomfortable (other than not knowing Spanish and not knowing how to find what I was looking for.) We were in a primary business district, so maybe that contributed to my comfort, but overall it was a very positive experience.
It was a bit telling though when the driver took us to a grocery store and the car had to go through a security check before being parked.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14382 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4392 times:
My fiancee is a bit reluctant of letting me travel to her hometown Iligan City on the Philippine Island Mindanao to see her family. She says that the Muslim areas just start about 50 km south of her place and that they are the operational base of several Muslim extremist / seccessionist / bandit groops (the borders between the motives are very fluid), which occasionally carry out raids into the neighbouring provinces to capture hostages, wealthier Filipinos and foreigners. While she, as a native, blends into the crowd, I literally stick out off it (I'm about a head taller than the average male Filipino).
Rojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4133 times:
Quoting AF340 (Reply 9): The Border between Honduras and Guatelmala.
Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 13): Hehe, I was wondering how many replies would it take for my country to come up... (not that I'm really disagreeing with you, mind you )
I was in Guatemala last week with my brother and we decided to rent a car so we could drive to Antigua. Since we live in Mexico, we thought it wouldn't be that different... and it wasn't except for the fact that the police decided to stop us because they were doing a routine check and because we didn't look like the people of Guatemala (yes, that is what he said). I started to talk to the police officer about crime in the city, insecurity and about living in Mexico, which I thought was more dangerous and he couldn't believe all the things I told him. After looking at my passport and the car registration and after I threw some jokes he decided to let us go. Next day I told the guy working at the rental agency what happened and he told me I was very lucky that police did not ask for money or took me to the station or even kidnapped us...
Been there....stayed for two months before the massive governoment turnover...then it got bad. However, the U.N. Peacekeepers stationed in Haiti have done an excellent job getting things back in relative order. Most of Haiti is relatively safe now, but Port-au-Prince still harbors a bunch of kidnappers.
Just last week or the week before there was an article on CNN that boasted "No murders in Newark over 60 days" or something like that.
You got to be kidding, I used to work in Downtown Newark (Halsey Street) and it is by far not even in the top twenty dangerous places on the East Coast. Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington DC, New Haven, Hartford, Providence are all worse.
Planespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3547 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days ago) and read 4039 times:
I'd really like to visit Israel, but can't help but feel like that would just be incredibly unsafe to visit.
I know the suicide bombs around Tel Aviv have gone down a lot in the past few years, but growing up in the United States, it seemed like terrorist attacks in Israel were an almost nightly occurrence for many years.
I don't mean to be "placeist" against Israel, but I just don't know if I would feel comfortable going there.
Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 11): Hardly dangerous. I never had/have a problem there. That and common sense works everytime.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 17): You got to be kidding, I used to work in Downtown Newark (Halsey Street) and it is by far not even in the top twenty dangerous places on the East Coast. Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington DC, New Haven, Hartford, Providence are all worse.
Newark has been historically known as dangerous, but I am much more apprehensive about going to either Irvington or Camden.
And speaking of murder rates, at one time this year Philadelphia was averaging more than one a day. Philadelphia would kill (no pun intended) for a 60 day no murder stretch.
CXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1570 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 3 days ago) and read 4019 times:
Johannesburg has the world's highest murder rate, and burglaries and carjackings are all-too-frequent. Then again, its possible to visit without major incident...
I'd say that Yemen wouldn't be a good place to visit right now.
Quoting Planespotting (Reply 18): I'd really like to visit Israel, but can't help but feel like that would just be incredibly unsafe to visit.
The rate of terrorist attacks has plummeted in recent years thanks to tougher security restrictions, though I still would be reasonably careful. You're much more likely to get hurt by the insane driving in Israel.
Then again, there are places in Israel best left avoided, and crossing over anywhere into the Palestinian Territories is a very, very, very bad idea.
The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
Avianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5939 posts, RR: 40
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4009 times:
Quoting PacNWJet (Thread starter): The article was published at a time when the level of violence in Colombia caused by drug cartels was at its height. About Colombia the article stated succinctly, “Not even for thrill seekers.” I believe the level of violence in Colombia has gone way down since the article was published, but an interesting question arise
Quoting 767Lover (Reply 5): What we were told by the bride herself (the native) was to not, under any circumstances, leave the main urban areas of the city of Bogota -- even with our driver, who was taking us around for the weekend. She said the likelihood was very high that on the rural roads, the car would be pulled over and we would be "detained" indefinitely.
Quoting 767Lover (Reply 5): It was a bit telling though when the driver took us to a grocery store and the car had to go through a security check before being parked.
Quoting Derico (Reply 8): Colombia is not as dangerous as portrayed. In fact, if you stick to the main cities it is safer than several countries in the region.
have to say these days colombia is really relaxed compared 15 years ago... so far I felt always safe... even travelling between major citys with bus...
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 2): I might throw Sao Paulo on to that list. I love the city, but its very dangerous.
felt also safe the last time I visited Sao Paulo... but hey it always depends at what part of the city you are staing...
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