Airfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1407 times:
The old contract was up on Sunday. The new contract was put up to a vote on the same day, it failed 2 to 1. A contract extension was voted on an passed for one week. Currently the two parties are worlds apart and agreement looks slim. The union is the Steelworkers and they can get rather ugly during strikes.
I am in management and it looks like I might be rolling up my selves and getting dirty next Monday. Anyone here ever go through a strike? Any good stories?
My dad did working for freight, but I haven't come too close working in the airlines. I'm glad, too, because, even though I'm in a union, I think unions are largely a farce. Having said that, among the workers who would go on strike, I'm guessing there's some who are deadbeats who run and cry to the union when the soda machine changes from Coke to Pepsi products - point being is that unions have plenty of deadbeats in their ranks, management knows it and that's often a roadblock in getting issues resolved. I've known it to be the case in several companies (mainly, again, in freight and aviation). Management is too often bound to keep the deadbeats around because of the unions. I'm also going on a limb here by saying if you could fire the deadbeats, your negotiations would go a lot smoother.
I didn't, but my dad did. And while having him live at the refinery for three months nonstop was not pleasant, boy, was the bonus check he got appreciated. We added on a room to the house, I got my own bedroom.
SNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1511 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1258 times:
Quoting Airfoilsguy (Thread starter): The union is the Steelworkers and they can get rather ugly during strikes.
I am too a Steelworker
Unity and Strength for Workers
I think we are the only f/a group represented by them too...
NeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
Best of luck to you! I was on strike when I was lifeguarding (who knew lifeguards could be in unions?), however, it was a part time job and I didn't care to be part of the union in the first place so I just crossed the picket line everyday and made my money.
There was an effort to unionize my work last summer by some rogue employees, thankfully however cooler heads prevailed and we didn't join the union.
Confuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3634 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1118 times:
Management option for a forced over time 2 times a month
Lower incentive pay for new workers
Personally, I don't blame the workers here, looks like someone is getting the shaft, and it isn't management. Disclaimer: of course I have no idea on the P&L of the company or even what industry this is.
SNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1511 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 964 times:
Quoting Confuscius (Reply 7): How much are you willing to pay scabs?
Miamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 952 times:
Quoting Confuscius (Reply 7): How much are you willing to pay scabs?
When Eastern Air Lines went on strike, a scab is not a position you wanted to be in. Scab cars in the lot were mortared with light bulbs filled with stripper, their personal tools were "lost" by sympathetic managers, a well documented case of a scab's airplane being blown up, and the list goes on and on. After Eastern finally went tits up, if you had it on your resume or put it on your employment application, you were in for harassment; your roll-away could end up in a canal, a bucket ofblue water from the honey bucket tossed on you, etc, etc, etc.
I have no love for the unions, but the working man shouldn't be taken advantage of either.
57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2550 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 879 times:
Some union strikes can get pretty violent. Back some time ago, an associate of mine was considering hiring on with a steel mill's rail operation as a scab. They were told that if the strike occurred and they were told to report for work, that they would possibly be locked in for up to 30 days. Back in the '70s, a strike on the Florida East Coast Railway ended up with train wrecking and federal prison sentences for those involved-two railroad bridges were dynamited as trains were crossing them.
"When a man runs on railroads over half of his lifetime he is fit for nothing else-and at times he don't know that."
ATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2037 posts, RR: 40 Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 826 times:
Im a controller who wouldnt be working if it wasnt for the strike in 1981. Thank you Reagan and thank you PATCO!!!!! I love my job
ATCT
Real pilots fly planes that take and measure oil in gallons
SkySurfer From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 1134 posts, RR: 14 Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 817 times:
Funny how some unions seems to stir up trouble just for the sake of it, and just why oh why is it that the union leaders are the last to be paid and the last to shut the lights off once they've done their best to have all their members fired/laid off? Think about it!
Btw, b4 you all go flaming me...i was a union member and no i don't bear a grudge....i just despise these idiots that believe the 'union leaders' when they say they'll be better off on strike for more money/benefits, it rarely happens without those 'valuable' members losing their jobs. Be bloody thankful for a job in the first place! Otherwise move over and let someone who really needs a job have yours and not complain.
In the dark you can't see ugly, but you can feel fat
Airfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 755 times:
Quoting SkySurfer (Reply 14): when they say they'll be better off on strike for more money/benefits
That was true in the past
Quoting SkySurfer (Reply 14): Be bloody thankful for a job in the first place! Otherwise move over and let someone who really needs a job have yours and not complain.
This is the truth today. There are a billion people in China waiting for your company to go out of business
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