Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Obama - First Hawaiian-born President  
User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2273 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

If Barack Obama's elected he'll be the first president not born on mainland U.S. This still applies to Article 2 of the
Consitution and Obama just qualifies...barely. He was born in 1961 just 2 years after Hawaii became a state.


The engine is the heart of an airplane, but the pilot is its soul.
9 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26481 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1861 times:



Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
This still applies to Article 2 of the
Consitution and Obama just qualifies...barely. He was born in 1961 just 2 years after Hawaii became a state.

What do you mean barely? Hawa'i has been part of the United States since 1898.

Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
If Barack Obama's elected he'll be the first president not born on mainland U.S.

The same would be true if John McCain were elected.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1831 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):

What do you mean barely? Hawa'i has been part of the United States since 1898.

It was annexed in 1898, made a territory in 1900 and gained statehood in 1959.

WrenchBender



Silly Pilot, Tricks are for kids.......
User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1827 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):
Hawa'i has been part of the United States since 1898.

Hawaii was annexed by the USA in 1898, but was not admitted to the Union until 1959.



'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1819 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):


Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter):
This still applies to Article 2 of the
Consitution and Obama just qualifies...barely. He was born in 1961 just 2 years after Hawaii became a state.

What do you mean barely? Hawa'i has been part of the United States since 1898.

Read STATE


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26481 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1815 times:



Quoting WrenchBender (Reply 2):

It was annexed in 1898, made a territory in 1900 and gained statehood in 1959.



Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 3):

Hawaii was annexed by the USA in 1898, but was not admitted to the Union until 1959.

I am well aware of when Hawai'i gained statehood. That has nothing to do with its status as being part of the United States for the purposes of Article 2.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26481 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1758 times:



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 4):

Read STATE

The First Line of the qualifications clause:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States

It doesn't say born in a specific state, it says a Citizen of the United States. By birthright, Puerto Ricans are citizens of the United States, despite not being born specifically in a state.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1753 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
The First Line of the qualifications clause:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States

It doesn't say born in a specific state, it says a Citizen of the United States. By birthright, Puerto Ricans are citizens of the United States, despite not being born specifically in a state.

Exactly.

And a great example is McCain... he was born in the Panama Canal Zone... at the time a U.S. Territory.



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

Regardless of what was admitted when, Obama and McCain are eligible to be POTUS. Seems like straw grasping for the hell of it.


You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineAloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2362 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

Not that I agree with him on much, but I went to the same high school as Obama, Punahou School.

I honestly never thought anyone from Hawai'i would ever be President in my lifetime, but I guess I never considered someone who left to go to college, never came back and got into politics in a larger state, Illinois in this case.

It might be cool if Sen. Obama set up his "Western White House" in Hawai'i.  Smile One can dream. One thing is for sure though....He'd visit us more than any other President (his family still lives here).

AND, just to allay the fears of the original poster....my Grandparents were born in Hawai'i in 1918 and 1924 and were born US citizens, as were my parents (born 1948 and 1951). The more interesting situation is with McCain since he was born on a US Military base in Panama, though a law passed by Congress in 1790 makes him elligible. I'm pretty its all a non-issue buts its always interesting to learn a little more about our Constitution.

-Aloha!



Aloha Airlines - The Spirit Moves Us. Gone but NEVER Forgotten. Aloha, A Hui Hou!
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Obama If DEM Nominee - Will Not Become President posted Mon Jan 7 2008 09:26:31 by Bmacleod
First President Of Europe In 2009 posted Thu Dec 13 2007 10:53:54 by ArniePie
John Hanson, First President Of The United States posted Thu Dec 1 2005 15:26:56 by Falcon84
How About Foreign Born US Citizen As President? posted Sun Nov 21 2004 18:32:30 by Bambicruz
Born On The 4th Of July; A Great US President posted Sat Jul 3 2004 05:53:57 by MD-90
First Human Clone Is Born posted Fri Dec 27 2002 17:19:00 by Bigo747
First Cloned Child To Be Born In January! posted Wed Nov 27 2002 12:20:50 by CPH-R
Future President; Who Will We See First? posted Tue Mar 20 2001 13:36:42 by Thom@s
GOP Already Starting Its Obama Smear Campaign posted Thu Feb 28 2008 21:46:57 by Mdsh00
My First Self Gloss Thread posted Thu Feb 28 2008 08:27:52 by Columba