ThreeIfByAir From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 365 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 10550 times:
Note: I'm not interested in rehashing the USAF tanker deal. I am also not interested in debating the merits or faults of domestic or foreign military procurement.
The tanker contract did make me wonder how much of the US miltary hardware in current, general use is derived from foreign designs. I understand that most (all?) weaponry/hardware is assembled in the USA, but I'm interested in the actual country of origin.
Off the top of my head, just in weapons, I can think of:
M249 SAW - based on the FN MINIMI (Belgium)
M240 - FN MAG (Belgium again)
M9 pistol - Beretta 92 (Italy)
Wikipedia (which may be wrong, of course) also says:
Heckler & Koch MP5 - various units (Germany)
SIG P226 - USCG (Switzerland/Germany)
Glock 19 - USAF pilot sidearms (Austria)
I'm sure the resident A.net military experts have more examples.
Doona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3640 posts, RR: 11 Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10521 times:
I believe the US forces use two Swedish anti-tank weapons, the M136 (AT4) and the M3 MAAWS (Carl Gustaf) are made in Sweden, by a Swedish/British company.
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JJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1434 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10516 times:
Off the top of my head:
Marines: Harrier (Brit)
Coast Guard: CN-235 (Spanish, now euro)
Presidential helicopter: based on Brit-Italian EH-101
The main gun on the M1 Abrams is a German Rheinmetall unit.
UH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10467 times:
Many people who be amazed at what foreign pieces of hardware, the US military possesses, for studying and dissecting purposes.
Things you would not even expect, but it's all perfectly logical. The US military makes it their business to be fully apprised of what other countries are fielding. No doubt other nations are doing the same with US technology, albeit on a smaller scale.
Mortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 2560 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10415 times:
Most of the ammo that US soldiers use in Iraq and afghanistan in their firearms come from Norway ( bullets for machine guns and so fort The " Raufoss Mk 211 " : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raufoss_Mk_211
NASAMS ( (Norwegian Advanced Surface to Air Missile System) ) is curently guarding your Whitehouse. US forces has also lent several NASAMS for deployment in Iraq. The US is working on a version of thier own of this equipment in cooperation with the Norwegioan developers. You can read more about NASAMS here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASAMS
The Penguin anti-ship missile (U.S. designation AGM-119):
There are plans to develop a multi-role version of the NSM, with ground strike being an option. This missile will be integrated with the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II "Joint Strike Fighter", and might be integrated with the Eurofighter and the JAS 39 Gripen as well. Studies have shown that the F-35 would be able to carry two of these in its internal bays, while additional missiles could be carried externally.
According to Kongsberg, this "multi-role NSM" is the only anti-ship missile that will fit inside the F-35's internal bays. Lockheed Martin and Kongsberg have signed a joint-marketing agreement for this air-launched version of the NSM, called the Joint Strike Missile (JSM). The project is funded by Norway and Australia. The JSM is planned to feature a two-way communications line, so that the missile can communicate with the central control room or other missiles in the air. By September 2007 the missile development is still only at the planning stage
Norwegian Intelligence Service is considered to be one of the most elaborate Intelligence Services in the world, technically advanced speaking amd has provided US soldiers with alot of inteligence information for atleast 50 years.
This has alot to do with Norway's location in the world. it was involved in the Cold War, in the Falklands war, the Gulf War, Kosovo and to this day Afganistan and Iraq and no doubt numourous other conflicts.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12235 posts, RR: 84 Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 10349 times:
The F-35 is a US aircraft, but with varying levels of foreign equipment.
Most notably on the F-35B, the VSTOL version.
With it's R/R Lift Fan, as well as some avionics and some quite major airframe parts.
It's not a collaborative project like the Typhoon, but it's kind of a level below that.
A first for a US military combat type.
Then the Italian G-222 was in US service, now in it's modernised form set to be in US service again.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28885 posts, RR: 67 Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10326 times:
The commo system I was trained to use was developed from a French system, and one of the LOS radios was made by Ericson.
Just my little list.
the 20mm gun-Oberlikon
The 40mm gun, Bofers
The LAV-25-Austria via Canada
The Stryker-Austria via Canada
The Goshawk-Britian
The Pratts on all of the smaller trasports like the T1 are from Pratt&Whitney Canada
The USCG Alex Haley-Built in Belfast, converted in the US but it was built in Belfast.
The US Marines operate the Kubelwagon from germany-they couldn't get a Humvee to fit in their choppers
The Harrier
The 76 MM deck gun from Italy
The Osprey class ships are from a Vosper Thornycraft design.
The 110 foot Island USCG cutters are also a Vosper design
The FN-MAG-Belgium
The FN-Mini-Belgium
The M-9 Italy
The M-10 is a Sig.
The AT-4
The special forces also use the Carl Gustof
I think that new USCG cutter is using the Bofers 57mm as it's main gun
Opps, forgot the new deuce and half and five ton trucks that S&S are building are from an Austrian design. Over the entire army that is a hell of a lot trucks.
[Edited 2008-03-02 10:46:09]
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MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 12350 posts, RR: 69 Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10307 times:
Quoting L-188 (Reply 10): The US Marines operate the Kubelwagon from germany-they couldn't get a Humvee to fit in their choppers
Sure it is not the Mercedes-Benz / Puch G-wagon? (an Austrian design built for Mercedes and e.g. used by rthe Bundeswehr).
The G-wagon is a real off road vehicle (though pricey), while the Kuebelwagen is essentially a VW Beetle with a different body.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 28885 posts, RR: 67 Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10294 times:
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 11): The G-wagon is a real off road vehicle (though pricey), while the Kuebelwagen is essentially a VW Beetle with a different body
DOOH!!!
You are correct sir!
At least I didn't try and call it a Kettenkrad!
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EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9134 posts, RR: 15 Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10240 times:
ThreeIfByAir From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 365 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10185 times:
Quoting EMBQA (Reply 13): nope.. sorry... made in New Jersey
Right, I figured that most hardware is actually manufactured in the United States. I was just trying to come up with an idea of where the original designs come from.
Sprout5199 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1611 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10165 times:
Don't for get the Angled carrier deck(UK)
Steam catapults (UK)
The US knows the best when it sees it and won't hesitate to use it(or steal the design).
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