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Excellent Article On Iraq And Religion  
User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 9835 posts, RR: 24
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2366 times:

From the Herald Tribune.


After almost five years of war, many young Iraqis, exhausted by constant firsthand exposure to the violence of religious extremism, say they have grown disillusioned with religious leaders and skeptical of the faith that they preach.


Such patterns, if lasting, could lead to a weakening of the political power of religious leaders in Iraq. In a nod to those changing tastes, political parties are scrubbing overt references to religion.

"In the beginning, they gave their eyes and minds to the clerics, they trusted them," said Abu Mahmoud, a moderate Sunni cleric in Baghdad, who now works deprogramming religious extremists in American detention. "It's painful to admit, but it's changed. People have lost too much. They say to the clerics and the parties: You cost us this."


Violent struggle against the United States was easy to romanticize at a distance.

"I used to love Osama Bin Laden," proclaimed a 24-year-old Iraqi college student. She was referring to how she felt before the war took hold in her native Baghdad. The Sept. 11, 2001, strike at American supremacy was satisfying, and the deaths, abstract.

Now, the student recites the familiar complaints: Her college has segregated the security checks; guards told her to stop wearing a revealing skirt; she covers her head for safety.

"Now I hate Islam," she said, sitting in her family's unadorned living room in central Baghdad. "Al Qaeda and the Mahdi Army are spreading hatred. People are being killed for nothing."


Families used to worry most about their daughters in adolescence, but now, the sheik said, they worry more about their sons.

"Before, parents warned their sons not to smoke or drink," said Muhammad Ali al-Jumaili, a Falluja father with a 20-year-old son. "Now all their energy is concentrated on not letting them be involved with terrorism."


About 60 percent of the American adult detainee population is illiterate and is unable to even read the Koran that religious recruiters are preaching.

I see this as excellent news. A painful realization that is a big step out of the 7th century.

Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils.
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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

Also appeared in the New York Times this morning. Perhaps these people will understand this is the 21st century and force their government to change as well. Nah, that would be hoping for to much, until the House of Saud falls.

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