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Tell Me This Technology Won't Be Used For...  
User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Tell me this technology won't be used eventually for domestic surveillance purposes...

It's a DARPA Project called "Combat Zones That See", which is claimed to be able to maintain total surveillance over a combat-zone to protect american troops. As part of DARPA's requirements, it is to be done with off-the-shelf electronic equipment and such. Of course one doesn't have to read far into either of these links to realize that this technology could easily be used for the purpose of domestic-surveillance that almost anybody would call Orwellian.

To make it worse, much of the technology already exists (cameras in major cities and such). This is not ficticious, sadly, in any way -- this is real. Even defense-experts have stated that they felt the technology had a purpose more suited to domestic-surveillance and law-enforcement than defending battlefields...

SOURCES
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0328,shachtman,45399,1.html (Big Brother Gets a Brain)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_Zones_That_See (Combat Zones That See)

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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

.....They're watching.........


Andrea, give me a hit of whatever you're having....



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User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8847 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1480 times:



Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Tell me this technology won't be used eventually for domestic surveillance purposes...

I hope so. Look at London's surveilance system. While such systems don't have a good record of detering crime, they often make it much easier to catch suspects.



Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

They're probably watching you now because you started this thread.  Wink


Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1459 times:
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Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
They're probably watching you now because you started this thread.

Please be watching and grab the coats and throw away the key.



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineLobster From Germany, joined Oct 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1389 times:



User currently offlineFr8Mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5470 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

So tell me Andrea, should we stop developing surveillance tools and technology because they can be used in domestic situations for which there is no warrant? By that logic phone tapping technology should have never been developed. How about cameras? Recorders? Satellites? Binoculars? Telescopes? ETC.

Please. Stop being paranoid. Just because a technology exists, doesn't mean it's being used for nefarious purposes. There are adequate checks and balances in place to discourage casual, illegal usage and sanctions for those caught using them illegally.

And for the record, I believe the program that the administration is using is perfectly legal. This is a war. Once we all, the civilized world, understands that, the sooner the enemy can be shut down.



When seconds count...the police are minutes away.
User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

Hmmm.....


I knew I felt a disturbance in the force.


User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

I am contemplating having radical cosmetic plastic surgery. My picture has been taken numerous times over many years and is doubtlessly in uncountable numbers of databases around the world. When this new imaging technology is mated to facial recognition technology it will be an easy matter for the government to bastardize it and track my every movement.

After I have had my surgery, I will not allow my face to be photographed unless I have applied special effects makeup or applied adornments such as shaped eyeglasses or jaw inserts. When I go out in public (and around my house when my webcam is on) I will wear special effects makeup in random patterns so that they will not be able to put together a pattern of my movements.

We cannot allow the government to pattern us and control our lives with the information they are attempting to gather.


User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1144 times:



Quote:
And for the record, I believe the program that the administration is using is perfectly legal. This is a war. Once we all, the civilized world, understands that, the sooner the enemy can be shut down.

At what cost? At the cost of eroding every last aspect of privacy and freedom us American's possess? You realize that if the government is allowed to reach the point where it can freely spy on the public without warrant, can disregard our civil-liberties as it sees fit, it will become more dangerous than the terrorists it's supposed to protect us from?

Ever read about Josef Stalin and the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany? They didn't have the technology to literally track every single human that moved in a city even. And they caused immense suffering and misery.

It's a lose/lose situation unless we figure out a way to defeat the enemy without trampling over everybody's rights.


Andrea Kent


User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1139 times:



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 7):
I knew I felt a disturbance in the force.

I thought I felt one, then I farted and I felt better.

Quoting Blackbird (Thread starter):
Tell me this technology won't be used eventually for domestic surveillance purposes...

It wont be used for domestic surveillance purposes.

OK thread complete, lock this bitch

Seriously Blackbird, do you think the government has nothing better to do than watch you?


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1134 times:







-NWA742


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