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Suggestion - Close The Non-Aviation Forum  
User currently offlineNicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Ok I know I'm gonna get a lot a shit for this,

I Think that we should close this forum for obvious reasons. First, 80% of the conversations here turn into childish name calling, flaming arguments. Some people join or create multiple identities just to post flamebaits on this forum, this is not tolerable

Seriously, I'm all for deleting this forum. If you think that's too extreme then limit it's access, don't let newbies post in it. This forum should be for those who have proven they can behave and communicate like humans.

Hey, before Johan created the Non-aviation, we never complained. Then when it was introduced, maybe not immediately but a short while after, the bashing and flaming started and it has somehow spread to other forums too.

Until some of you can behave I think closing this forum down is the best choice.


Just my opinion,
Nico

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User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

80% - no way, you cannot say they all end up like that.

If you don't like it, don't come! Or hit the suggest deletion button more. Like I have done for this topic!

Josh
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User currently offlineAmerican_4275 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1076 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

I like it. It's a place for me to get advice, or just debate about a certain topic. I find pleasure (most of the time) in coming to this forum and reading the posts. Sometimes, yeah, there are problems because we're human and a lot of us have different views since we're coming from different places and have been brought up with different values etc.

My suggestion is if it's really bugging you, don't come. No one's forcing you to participate in this forum...but for those of us who do gain pleasure out of it, don't ruin it.

Regards,
American_4275


User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Couldn't agree with you more American_4275 Big thumbs up

Josh
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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1700 times:

This was discussed before, and then the person who suggested it (who was an idiot anyway), got flamed.

BUT, I have to agree with you, although we could avoid shutting it down completely. Instead of having a Non-aviation forum, it could have categories where there is a strict basis (ie. The aviation photography forum), so the only things can be discussed are under that topic, and are least likely to have stupid topics/replies or create flame wars (don't often see flame wars in the av hobby, photo request or trip report forums).

I don't know what the sub-categories would be though...

I do agree that this forum is just getting beyond a joke, it was bad before when Johan considered multiple things that involved changing this forum, but I see this an ever increasing possibility. The Maturity of this forum has gone from not much to absolutely nothing. And it also seems that some of the main offenders (claim) not to be of the youngest agegroup (21-25 and 26-35).

Regards

Dan


User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

I think shutting down Non-Aviation might be a bit extreme. However, I could get on without it.

User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

There is another solution...I know Johan hasn't got the time, but if he or someone else could constantly monitor the non-av forum for a day or two and find out who is causing the trouble, then they could be deleted.
Especially the people who made Aloha 737-200 go away. They're like bullies at a school.

Josh
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User currently offlineNicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

Jaspike,

Alright 80% was maybe a bit exagerating, but it's not a lot lower, anyways.

You suggest me that if I don't like it I shouldn't come. But the problem is that I like to come, I open up a topic that I beleive will interest me, I read the main topic and 2 post below moron start to throw flames at each other, ruining completely the topic. All I'm trying to say is that all this "don't like it, don't read it" or "don't like it, don't come here" makes no sense at all.

Nico


User currently offlineSaloth Sar From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

I think we pretty much know who the troublemakers are. Although I don't think they know who they are or they're in denial.

User currently offline764er From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1667 times:

Yeah, in another thread, some people called me an asshole.  Crying What is this world coming to?

They were the same people who chastised me for saying something about someone else's post.  Sad I don't think they realize they are hypocrites.  Sad The biggest problem is the extreme overreactions to everything... this topic being one of those overreactions.


User currently offlineIwareboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

Who the do you guys think you are? Someone’s friend gets their feelings hurt, so lets close the forum! Great! Why doesn't Johan just install a filter to keep all you friggin drama queens off the message board. Look how ridiculous you are Nico, you complain about the content of the board, while using a curse word in the FIRST sentence. Please guys, feel free to delete yourself like Aloha and by all means goto an online poetry website or something!

-Sean  Pissed


User currently offlineNicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

Can't take much critism 764? You must be very grateful that the internet is such an anonimous place, I don't think you would have said those things to Aloha if this conversation took place over a table in the real world but you feel superior because you can hide behind your screen. What a shame.

User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Also, I don't think Aloha would have mushed up his predicament at a conversation that took place over a table in the real world. Maybe at a poetry or writing contest, but not in the real world.

User currently offline764er From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Can't understand much sarcasm, huh Nicolaki?

LMAO at your analysis, though. If he handed me a sheet with that crap on it, I'd be saying the same thing. But you're right, the Internet is full of pussies. Look at yourself.


User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

I think everyone needs to read this again..
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/rules.main?confirm=no

Josh
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User currently offlineLeftseat86 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

Flame wars? I LIKE flame wars! Big grin

No but seriously, I don't think we should shut down the whole forum, we should take it upon ourselves as PEOPLE to start being nicer to each other, more compassionate, and accept others ideas. This forum is not THAT bad, there are just some points we need to work on.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1632 times:

I got some sarcasm for Nicolaki. How about we just close down your airliners.net account instead of the non-av forum?


User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1620 times:

If this Aloha thing didn't happen, this post wouldn't be here right now. I've just looked through some of the topics, and they seem alright. Small arguments should be allowed - forums are for debating and saying your opinions.

Josh
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User currently offlineNicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

Hey good idea KROC...

User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

KROC - he just deleted himself.

User currently offlineSaloth Sar From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1606 times:

Saloth. Still in denial huh?

Perhaps, but it's only a reaction to some people's behavior here. KROC, we all know you're innocent and a model citizen in this here forum, right? ...right. Never bullying anyone, nor insulting people, right? ...right. As long as it's in good fun (your fun) anything and everything goes, right? ...right. Wasn't Hoffa just having fun, right? ...right.  Yeah sure

I didn't even reply to your post on the Aloha thread because I was brought to tears, or was that laughter, by your sincerity towards Aloha737-200. What a decent man you are!  Yeah sure


User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1606 times:

So that's 2 users in the last couple of days who have gone...it's a shame it isn't the naughty ones who are deleting themselves - no I don't mean you KROC, you were being sarcastic...

Josh
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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 22, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

hhmm, looks like its another 'victory' for the forum, Nicolaki just deleted himself.

User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1596 times:

Username: Jaspike
Posted 2002-02-24 17:45:56 and read 12 times.
KROC - he just deleted himself.


He meaning Nicolaki Big thumbs up

Josh
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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1590 times:

Yeah, I didn't know he had until you said that. Nicolaki was a cool person, shame he had to resort to this...

25 Post contains images Jaspike : To be honest, I'd never heard of him so I clicked on his profile, and he had gone. How long had he been a member? Josh
26 764er : Ah well. I guess the forums didn't mean that much to him anyway...
27 Leftseat86 : Man, people are pretty stupid to be deleting themselves over nothing. KROC clearly mentioned "SARCASM" in his post. It's not his fault if people cant
28 KROC : Saloth. If you were brought to tears, it's because you you have no sense of reality. Yeah, I was sincere twords Aloha. But I was also realistic. Somet
29 SEVEN_FIFTY7 : I dunno about Nickolaki and Aloha, but I'd NEVER let any self-righteous, know-it-all, pompous jackasses with multiple identities run me away from the
30 Post contains images Saloth Sar : I am not bullying you anywhere, nor do I bully people hear(sic)... NOW, THAT'S BIG TIME DENIAL! I rest my case...
31 Post contains images Leftseat86 : LOL
32 KROC : Solath. He made a suggestion. I made a suggestion. Me, sitting in front of my computer in Rochester NY, saying maybe he should go, has no bearing on w
33 Post contains images American_4275 : Nicolaki was pretty damn selfish. He has the nerve to recommend shutting down the forums because he doesnt have enough will power to stay away from th
34 Iwareboy : Another one bits the dust!!! I love it!! All you other whiners, please delete yourselves too!!! -Sean
35 Post contains images Leftseat86 : LOL
36 Post contains images American_4275 : Yes I agree with Iwareboy..."Another One Bites The Dust" is hilarious.
37 Post contains images Saloth Sar : KROC, see what you've done? You've spawned little KROC jrs. in Leftseat86 and 764er. Leftseat86, I've seen your picture and no, I don't think you're a
38 B737-700 : Thanks KROC for making Nicolaki go. He was one of the rather good posters. AT least he used the general aviation forum as well and contributed to goo
39 Post contains images Leftseat86 : Don't diss Steve Erkel, Erkel's the man
40 Go Canada! : close it, it has become a hot bed of argument, putting race agaianst race and religion against religion. its full of too many people thinking they kno
41 B737-700 : KROC you know what I mean by saying "you made him go". The comment was just not necessary. And just for the record, you are nobody to me either. Back
42 KROC : B737-700. My comment was as "necessary" as the thread to close the non-av forum. He offered a suggestion. I offered one in sarcasm. No seriousness inv
43 SEVEN_FIFTY7 : KROC, was what referring to you? I never considered you a "know-it-all, pompous jackass." (I agree with you most of the time). No, my post was in refe
44 Post contains images KROC : Okay SEVEN_FIFTY7. Wasn't ure if that was a shot on me. If it was, I was just trying to figure out where it cme from. It's all good!
45 Post contains images Saloth Sar : Tomorrow is Monday. Back to getting bullied at school for you. Huh? I deal with bullies everyday. I give them detentions or suspend them...and I get p
46 KROC : Now Saloth. You are being cool here. Even busting out with a joke or two. Yet if I joke, I am a bully. How does that work homeslice?
47 Rolex01 : Sloth.. You a kidnergarten teacher?
48 Post contains images Jgore : Nicolaki, before this non-aviation forum is over, be sure that your membership will be terminated before, that's for sure. jgore
49 Post contains images Saloth Sar : 6th grade. However, the way kids nowadays behave I may as well be a kindergarten teacher. ...like us here in A.net.
50 SEVEN_FIFTY7 : Who attached Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust" song to this? A heated argument with appropriate background music. Not bad.
51 Post contains images KROC : Solath. Stop it. I might think you are a decent guy if you keep being funny!
52 Post contains images 764er : SEVEN_FIFTY7: it's annoying, isn't it?
53 Saloth Sar : Solath. Stop it. I might think you are a decent guy if you keep being funny! Now that's sarcasm!
54 KROC : Misunderstood yet again! I was being serious!
55 Post contains images Saloth Sar : Misunderstood yet again! Perhaps I was being sarcastic with my reply. Who knows...I'm confused myself. Anyway, I'm outta here. ...for now. ciao
56 JAL : If you don't like it then, don't come then!
57 Post contains images KROC : JAL. Your solution is simple, and the best one. Yet, rarely is that even followed.
58 Post contains images Leftseat86 : Go back to ROC KROC, we dont want ya in here!
59 America West : If you don't want to be involved in the Non Aviation forum, then don't visit it. Its that simple. That way, you don't have to be involved in anything
60 Mika : I really don't see the problem. If i don't like certain things, i ignore them. If you don't like the non-aviation forum then stay out of it. What does
61 Nwairlines : And also, flame threads spill into one another. People find it necessary to start their own threads about the same things and then, instead of having
62 Post contains images KROC : Mika: expressing your oppnion here can sometimes be quite limited There hasn't been a more accurate statement on this board in a long time. I apprecia
63 Post contains images Leftseat86 : ^^^ Agreed! Mika!
64 Post contains images Mika : Someone should start a army of justice & freedom of expression! I would join instantly. Seriously thou, thanx a bunch for the support guys!
65 Post contains images CPDC10-30 : The man did have a point. This non-av forum has gone downhill so far in the past six months, two members here are a perfect example of the problem of
66 Gocaps16 : geez KROC, why'd you have to tell Nico to delete himself. People have feelings to ya know. You should first think carefully about what you post before
67 Alessandro : Saloth Sar thats another name for Pol Pot, the mass killer in Cambodia, thats very bad taste to call yourself that. If you have to censor things start
68 PHX-LJU : I agree, Alessandro. To many people, the name Saloth Sar (a.k.a. Pol Pot) is just as offensive as Hitler or Stalin. Surely you don't think those usern
69 Alessandro : I find it pretty annoying, but its the net. You can pretend to be someone else and get away with it, especially with some people that have several use
70 LHMark : This topic cracked me up. Nick- if you hate this forum so much, why do you keep posting here? Granted...there's some stupid crap, but there is also va
71 174thfwff : Just do an IP trace. anyone who has 2 names going to one ip then BOTH should get deleted!
72 Rickster : I wouldn´t close it down. This forum definately offers a wide array of in-depth views on the personalities and characters visiting this side. More ob
73 Jaspike : Lots of people have said this, and they're right. If you don't like it, don't come.
74 JetService : If Non-Av was preventing something else from existing, then it would be plausible to suggest its removal, but its not. It either exists or it doesn't.
75 Rolex01 : I think this was a desperate move by Nicolaki trying to get people to look at him like he commited suicide.. No fret, I can bet, all he did was sacrif
76 Post contains images Leftseat86 : I agree fully with Jetservice, another reason why the man is on my Resp. Users list
77 B737-700 : Rolex01, how do you want to know if he's still here ? It's still sad to see one of the good posters here go.
78 Seb146 : I had talked about removing myself in one of the threads about Aloha, but the more I think about it, it would be more fun to piss off the newbies with
79 America West : How would the nonexistance of the Non-Av forum benefit you any more than not coming to it at all? It won't AT ALL. There are many people here that wan
80 CPDC10-30 : If you don't like the Non Aviation forum, you shouldn't visit it. Instead, why not make changes so that more people like it, like it used to be.
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