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I Got Robbed At Gunpoint Tonight  
User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3797 times:

Well I am now an official crime statistic in the Memphis area...I live in a suburb of Memphis not in the city. I had just got home from work and was getting out of my car when a car with 4 black guys stopped and asked me for directions when I approached their car he pulled a gun on me and demanded my wallet. Thankfully I had taken over 200 dollars out of my wallet in the morning and left only about 55 dollars 30 of which I had just spent at the store so they only got about 14 dollars in singles..The cops caught them pretty quick and took me over to try to ID them.. I definately ID'd the car but I guess I was fixated on the gun so I didn't get a great look at the driver..Apparantly after they robbed me they went to the corner store to buy beer which the clerk said they paid with all singles..I don't know if they can make anything stick since they didn't find a gun yet but I was about to go on vacation now I am shook up so bad my first reaction is to get my carry permit. I don't think it would have helped in this case because they got the drop on me pretty quick. Anyway it had for sure lit a fire under me to sell this house..This neighborhood had been going downhill for a while now and I have been wanting to sell but up until now I had never had a problem..Well now I have a problem..


NWA THE TRUE EVIL EMPIRE
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User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5521 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3760 times:

Quoting Stratosphere (Thread starter):
Well I am now an official crime statistic in the Memphis area

Very sad to hear. I hope you are holding up alright. Facing one's mortality is one the most terrible things to experience. Find some support if you can.

Quoting Stratosphere (Thread starter):
he pulled a gun on me and demanded my wallet.

Forgive me, I don't want to stir fear, but did they get the whole wallet or just the cash? My concern would be them seeing your ID, knowing your name and address.

Be safe(r)

Tugg

[Edited 2008-07-12 23:10:56]


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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7263 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3756 times:
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Sucks for you dude; never carry cash in the wallet; this thread is a good example of why I absolutely refuse to move to Memphis for work. I brave the 1h20m commute to get on another plane.

Got Collierville?


User currently offlinePlaneWasted From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3746 times:

It sucks to be robbed, I know.
I don't care about the money (insurance fixes that), but the humiliation..  Sad


User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3744 times:

This right here would scare the f---ing s--t out of me.

They know where I live, my name, info from my wallet.

Oh, I'd be out of there quicker than you can say "bye".

Not to be a chicken or anything but man...


User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

This is why I don't keep my ID in my wallet. I just keep it hidden in the glove box unless I need to buy something that requires it.

Don't be scared man, just be thankful you're OK and know that they'll have to answer for what they've done someday unless they ask for forgiveness.



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User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3705 times:

I think I'm gonna start carrying two wallets.. One for money, and one for IDs and card and the like.. I'm sorry that had to happen to you. Just don't let it get to you too deep.


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User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3695 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 1):
Forgive me, I don't want to stir fear, but did they get the whole wallet or just the cash? My concern would be them seeing your ID, knowing your name and address.

Well problem is they robbed me right in front of my house. They did not get my wallet just the money and not much at that. But I really think these guys are from the neighborhood I have seen that car before and that is what scares me.. I have a very unique car though so I know they know I live in this house..



NWA THE TRUE EVIL EMPIRE
User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5521 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3664 times:



Quoting Stratosphere (Reply 7):
Well problem is they robbed me right in front of my house.

Gee, you did say that didn't you!

Quoting Stratosphere (Reply 7):
They did not get my wallet just the money and not much at that. But I really think these guys are from the neighborhood I have seen that car before and that is what scares me.. I have a very unique car though so I know they know I live in this house..

Ahh F**k. I'm definitely thinking it's time to move.

Tugg



I don’t know that I am unafraid to be myself, but it is hard to be somebody else. -W. Shatner
User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3645 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 8):
Ahh F**k. I'm definitely thinking it's time to move

Agreed. Thanks for letting me vent...



NWA THE TRUE EVIL EMPIRE
User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3638 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 2):
never carry cash in the wallet;

Actually Drew I am glad I had a bunch of singles...It appeared like it was a bunch of money especially at night but when they got down the street they knew it was less than 20 bucks. I think if I had nothing they might have shot me just because they were pissed.



NWA THE TRUE EVIL EMPIRE
User currently offlineAirCatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3524 times:

I wouldn't be too worried about them having further interest in you or your house considering you only had $14 in your wallet. If they had found the $200 maybe they would have thought you were rich or something but not with $14.

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3486 times:

Then again; you did report them to the cops.. so you never know.

I have a similar story here in Moscow; might as well attached myself to this thread. Some drunk guys robbed me at this subway station of $20 (two big guys beating the shit out of me with no cops around didn't seem appealing). I followed them into the subway, but what do you know.. damn it.. no cops down there on the platform; so I lost $20.. And never going to that shitty neighborhood again ($20 isn't gonna buy those losers happiness.. Just more booze.)



What now?
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8134 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3483 times:

Really sorry to hear about this Stratosphere. It's going to be tough getting back into the mindset of living in the states after all these years of Japanese tranquility and not really being concerned with what neighborhood I'm in.

How the fuck pathetic are you that you can't pay for your own goddamn beer anyway? Don't they have a cookie jar in grandma's house to steal from? Beyond sad  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14003 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3474 times:



Quoting AirCatalonia (Reply 11):
I wouldn't be too worried about them having further interest in you or your house considering you only had $14 in your wallet. If they had found the $200 maybe they would have thought you were rich or something but not with $14

What about revenge for him identifying them to the cops?

Jan


User currently offlineAirCatalonia From Spain, joined Nov 2007, 554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3408 times:



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 14):
What about revenge for him identifying them to the cops?

Ok, well that's a possibility too. I was thinking more of the eastern european gangs we get here. You know, they are basically money-driven and all they will try is to get information on whether you have valuable items or money at home and then they will try get in and rob you.

Anyway, it's sad this kind of things happen.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3380 times:
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Well you did report it so that right there sends a message that you are not going to let others bully you. Had you not reported it I think that would have set you up for a repeat.


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User currently offlineMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 872 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

I am sorry to hear that. I guess its just another glaring warning sign that our economy is in the tubes and going downhill without any brakes.


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User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3343 times:

Since the normal people that would recommend this have been purged, I'll throw in that if you're in a questionable neighborhood in Memphis at all you should consider getting a carry permit. I love Memphis but it's definitely a place where you need to stay on your toes at all times.


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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8491 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3338 times:



Quoting MIA (Reply 17):
I guess its just another glaring warning sign that our economy is in the tubes and going downhill without any brakes.

?? We always have had robbers. It sounds like they were caught. There was no legal basis to make an arrest. Getting a plate # is the best policy. Shooting people won't solve anything.

Some people believe our economy is going downhill. I am not sure I agree. But the stock mkt certainly makes it appear that way.


User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3320 times:



Quoting Stratosphere (Thread starter):
I am shook up so bad my first reaction is to get my carry permit. I don't think it would have helped in this case because they got the drop on me pretty quick.

Which is a good reason, even if you had a gun, to keep it in your pocket. The medical bills resulting from a shoot out where you get shot even once would far outweigh the 20 bucks.

Quoting Stratosphere (Thread starter):
Well I am now an official crime statistic in the Memphis area...I live in a suburb of Memphis not in the city.

When I lived in Nashville the prevailing opinion was that everything west of Jackson down to the river should be sold to Mississippi or napalmed.  duck 

Quoting PlaneWasted (Reply 3):
I don't care about the money (insurance fixes that),

What kind of insurance is that and where do I get it? What kind of deductible since we are talking 20 bucks?

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 5):
This is why I don't keep my ID in my wallet. I just keep it hidden in the glove box unless I need to buy something that requires it.

Here in the States you had better be real clear to the police officer that has stopped you that you going into your glove box to get your ID or you could get 9mm justice dispensed on the spot.

Quoting Stratosphere (Reply 10):
...It appeared like it was a bunch of money especially at night but when they got down the street they knew it was less than 20 bucks. I think if I had nothing they might have shot me just because they were pissed.

Dead men tell no tales so you should thank your lucky stars they weren't high on something like pcp.

Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13):
How the fuck pathetic are you that you can't pay for your own goddamn beer anyway?

I think their thinking was more along the lines of "why use our own money to pay for the beer when we can steal his". Goes along with rich kids shoplifting when they have a store credit card in their wallet.

Quoting MIA (Reply 17):
I guess its just another glaring warning sign that our economy is in the tubes and going downhill without any brakes.

??????WTF. How do you draw that conclusion?


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3320 times:



Quoting Stratosphere (Thread starter):
...get my carry permit

Would not have helped in this situation. NEVER get into a gunfight on the other guy's terms! Best thing you could do is hand over the wallet without looking like you want to cause trouble for these guys. Now if they wanted you to get in the car with them, or you to let them in your house, then it might be time to be thinking of alternatives, but a simple robbery, you did good.

You've got me thinking though. I think I'm at some risk for the same experience. Pretty crappy neighborhood between home and work. Think it is time to invent a new way to carry the required plastic. I'll part with a wallet full of cash any day without so much as a whimper but having to deal with the issues of losing credit cards, licenses etc. is serious. Time to download the wallet. Keep a little chump change in there to appease the dirtbags like your crew.

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 18):
I'll throw in that if you're in a questionable neighborhood in Memphis at all you should consider getting a carry permit.

I'm not disputing that, but please keep in mind that if the other guy has the drop on you, the best thing you can possibly do is keep hidden the fact that you are carrying. Shame to get yourself killed for the gun. Again, never get in a gunfight on the other guy's terms!

Quoting UAL757 (Reply 4):
Not to be a chicken or anything but man...

I happen to place courage rather high on the list of virtues, but good sense is sometimes a better survival skill. If I haven't said it before, never get in a gunfight on the other guy's terms.

Quoting Stratosphere (Thread starter):
This neighborhood had been going downhill for a while now and I have been wanting to sell

Can you sell in this market without getting robbed again? That would SO suck.

Quoting MIA (Reply 17):
just another glaring warning sign that our economy is in the tubes and going downhill without any brakes.

Ah, the old "poverty causes crime" fairy tale. Hint: Poverty does not cause crime. Some of the safest places on earth are also the poorest, but the society in those places is generally peaceable and orderly. The belief that poverty causes crime lets people off the hook for their own actions because, after all, if poverty causes crime and they are poor then it isn't their fault. So the notion that "poverty causes crime" might actually cause crime by excusing it.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8671 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3310 times:



Quoting UAL757 (Reply 4):
This right here would scare the f---ing s--t out of me.

Agreed.

Quoting Stratosphere (Reply 7):
I have a very unique car though so I know they know I live in this house..

What kind is it?

Sorry to hear you were robbed and glad to see you are taking preventive actions. Its better to be prepared then to have your rear end hanging out. I commend you.

Hunter



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3295 times:



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 20):
Quoting MIA (Reply 17):
I guess its just another glaring warning sign that our economy is in the tubes and going downhill without any brakes.

??????WTF. How do you draw that conclusion?

I'd bet these Whyfos never participated in the economy in a constructive way.

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 21):
I'm not disputing that, but please keep in mind that if the other guy has the drop on you, the best thing you can possibly do is keep hidden the fact that you are carrying. Shame to get yourself killed for the gun. Again, never get in a gunfight on the other guy's terms!

Absolutely correct, I was speaking in more general terms and should have qualified my statement. See below for a bit more though.

Quoting Stratosphere (Thread starter):
and was getting out of my car when a car with 4 black guys stopped and asked me for directions when I approached their car

You put this on their terms when you approached their car. Asking for directions is a classic way to lure somebody closer for robbery, carjacking, etc. Think about this, with four people in the car why would they need to ask you for directions. Surely one would have a cell phone. I don't want to sound callous, but my default position is to assume the worst in these situations and act accordingly. I've seen too many people hurt, traumatized, etc. by falling for the same old tired story or a variation.



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14003 posts, RR: 62
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3281 times:



Quoting SlamClick (Reply 21):
Quoting Stratosphere (Thread starter):
...get my carry permit

Would not have helped in this situation. NEVER get into a gunfight on the other guy's terms! Best thing you could do is hand over the wallet without looking like you want to cause trouble for these guys. Now if they wanted you to get in the car with them, or you to let them in your house, then it might be time to be thinking of alternatives, but a simple robbery, you did good.

I got mugged once in Berlin (fortunately it had a happy outcome, except for some bruises to my ego and face, I was lucky to get some unexpected help) and I have to say that they took me completely by surprise. Even if I had a gun in my pocket at this time, I wouldn't have been able to use it (and probably would have done something stupid like shooting them when they were running away, which would be murder, not self defense).

On the other hand, if I have to walk a street with a mindset like a soldier in enemy country, expecting an attck from any corner, I'd move away from this place.

Jan


25 Fr8mech : Never say never, sometimes you have no choice, but in this case I agree. They had you at a disadvantage and drawing a gun, with a gun already on you
26 FlyMIA : Horrible to hear the news. I get so mad when I hear things like this, one reason why I want to go into law enforcement to stop people who hurt or just
27 SlamClick : Okay, never volunteer for a gunfight on the other guy's terms. Better?
28 MD11Engineer : When I was travelling to the Philippines, I used to hide the bulk of my money in a money belt (looked like a normal trousers belt, but had a zipper se
29 Boston92 : What do you mean? The glove box is where most people keep their insurance proof and registration, so what would be the big deal if your ID is there t
30 Lowrider : Not such a big deal. Last time I got stopped, I told the officer, "My registration and insurance card are in the glove box. Can I reach over there an
31 Nwaesc : One suggestion is to use a money clip. You keep your cash on/in it, and the rest of your stuff in your wallet. When accosted, you can just throw the
32 Stratosphere : Well I guess I can answer both questions..True I only gave them 14 bucks but I was getting out of my car 2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8. While not a unique
33 Ronglimeng : Stratosphere: Sorry about your experience. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but don't you think 4 black guys riding around in one car should have trippe
34 Boston92 : Maybe not racist, but an unfair comment.
35 CO18Heavy : I'm sorry to hear that.. Too bad they didn't approach me, they woulda been dead since I carry a gun at all times. Those thugs should be dead. CO18Heav
36 Stratosphere : Funny how when anyone eludes to a statement like that they are accused of being racists. Yet I know blacks who will tell you they would not approach
37 MD-90 : Not in Memphis (lots of black people live there).
38 Post contains links PWM2TXLHopper : I love Memphis and I have relatives from North Mississippi, and have been there many times. However, there's no question this city has degraded into a
39 Mir : I'd agree. But in this case the criminals had the gun drawn first, and drawing his own gun would have likely just gotten him shot. If you feel that w
40 Stratosphere : Ya know the funny thing is if this had been in Memphis I never would have approached the car but somehow in my neighborhood I felt safe as crazy as t
41 Boston92 : Really? So you would have somehow got your gun out from wherever you keep it, faster than the black guy who already has a gun to your face can recogn
42 Fr8mech : I used to think that way...back when I was a teenager and, maybe, into my early 20's. Now I have a wife and 2 kids. Somethings are more important tha
43 Superfly : Stratosphere: Sorry to hear about that. I've been held up at gun point too and it is a very scary feeling. I f--king hate these kind of scumbags.
44 MD-90 : Yes. I used to go to that mall every so often when I was a kid and never noticed anything unusual but that was in the early 90s before it got really
45 Stratosphere : Yeah and King Willie Herrington is keeping the city safe.. The Mayor for life F#@%king scumbag..Between King for life and the Ford family and their b
46 PWM2TXLHopper : I've seen some of your posts before stating you're in Mississippi. Exactly whereabouts though? My father grew up in West Point, pretty close to Missi
47 Post contains links PWM2TXLHopper : This is a great site that's constantly updated with the most recent stories of armed citizens defending themselves against those out to do them harm.
48 MD-90 : I'm actually from Athens, Alabama but my mother was born in Guntown, MS and so I'm quite familiar with Gutown, Tupelo, Saltillo, Mantachie, Baldwyn,
49 Luv2fly : I kinda miss all the gun zealots that use to dominate these threads, and turn them into guns are the only answer.
50 SlamClick : Most of us who actually know something about guns, and especially about combat with guns know that the o/p did exactly the right thing and have eithe
51 Stratosphere : I would like to think I did the right thing but I guess I didn't have a whole lot of options. An update to this story apparantly the guys they caught
52 SNCntry32 : I am crashing in the Southaven area right now and driving to the airport for work.. I always try to think the best of people in the Memphis area and t
53 Super80DFW : Are Collierville and Germantown really much safer than Memphis?
54 MD-90 : Unequivocably yes.
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