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The Key To A Good Cupa Joe (coffee)  
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3512 posts, RR: 5
Posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

Every morning I get up at 6:30 and shuffle my groggy ass out to the kitchen, where I put some filtered water in a tea kettle and bring to a boil. From there, I put two scoops of coffee grounds in a French press, and after the water's boiling, pour into the coffee vessel, which I put the lid on and brew for about 3 minutes.

After pressing the plunger to remove the grounds, I serve, yielding bout 1.75 cups of coffee.

The taste of this coffee is usually decent ... but not great or awesome. On a scale of 1-10, my coffee is usually about a 6 or a 7. Today, however, it was more in line with a 2 or 3. Blech.

The thing is, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I do about the same basic thing everyday, with fairly minor variations in the amount of water, the amount of coffee grounds, and how long I let it brew (sometimes I'm out of the room when the timer goes off and get to it a minute later, etc...).

I used to use a traditional drip machine, but found that coffee tastes better with the French press. However, I definitely see wilder variations with the press, in terms of taste.

I'd be interested to find out how everyone else does their morning coffee, even if you don't use a pansy-ass French press like me, or if you just get it from your favorite local coffee shop. I used to hit up Starbucks at least once or twice a week (it's convenient and right on my way to work), but my latte drink costs as much as a gallon of gas now, so I try to lay off that habit.


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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

We usually make coffee using the manual Chemex method. It is pretty good, but takes a bit of time and is hands-on. However, it is superior to the automatic machines.

If one of us just wants one cup we use the stovetop Bialetti mocha pot.


User currently offlineAmigocharlie From Switzerland, joined Oct 2007, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2880 times:

Depending on the mood i'm in, i choose a capsule, put it in my Nespresso machine, press the button and enjoy a cup of great tasting coffee! And all that doesn't even take one minute Big grin


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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2874 times:

I buy 8 O'Clock whole beans at the grocery in the vacuum bag. I take them home.

Never grind beans in the grocery store because somebody who came before you ground some of that horrible flavored Millstone crap that smells like a whore's armpit and contaminated the machine. It will ruin your bag of coffee with ersatz hazlenut smells.

 yuck 

When I get home the beans go in the freezer until I'm ready for them. I know, I know, you shouldn't do it. When it's time to have coffee I measure out a tablespoon for each cup and grind it in my very own 1940 vintage Kitchenaid A-9 burr mill.

Some people don't like burr mills but mine's a joy to use.

Then it's into the Black and Decker cheapie coffee maker. I use tap water because it's usually pretty good here, although I keep a few bottles of spring water handy in case the city's been working on the water mains or it's rained a lot recently. The home coffee maker of this style produces a lower temperature brew (150 degrees more or less) so I may not be getting all the flavor but I do not care for coffee that's brewed at boiling point.

In the six minutes or so that it takes to complete its cycle, I've brushed my teeth and paid deference to a modicum of cleanliness, and I can walk into the kitchen and inhale the lovely aroma of fresh coffee. If it goes more than fifteen minutes it goes out and a fresh pot gets brewed.

Then it's out to the back yard and the lawn chair to enjoy the quiet and cool of the morning for a few minutes.


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3512 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2867 times:



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 3):
I buy 8 O'Clock whole beans at the grocery in the vacuum bag.

Oh - I totally forgot to mention the beans/grind.

I don't grind. I buy the ground.

I know, I know ... but I don't think I'm hardcore coffee enough to purchase a coffee grinder (even though they are fairly cheap).

My favorite coffee is Doyue Egberts, but I can never find it in the stores. Luckily, some PR firm soliciting my bosses at work sent them two free vacuum sealed packages full of it, which they let me have, and I've been using that. Otherwise, it's usually Nicaraguan fair trade from Target, but sometimes I'll splurge for an Ethiopian blend, but not often, especially now that I'm not getting the consistency out of my coffee process that I'd like.

Perhaps I should use my pilot skills and trial and error to come up with a perfect coffee checklist for every morning?



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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2863 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Reply 4):
I don't grind. I buy the ground.

I know, I know ... but I don't think I'm hardcore coffee enough to purchase a coffee grinder (even though they are fairly cheap).

You simply must get a grinder and shift over to grinding the beans yourself at the point and time of use. The A-9 may have been discontinued because it's not on the Kitchenaid site these days but there should be plenty of them around. They last forever.

I'll never go back to preground coffees. If that's all there is I'll drink tea.


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

At home: Maybe not exactly this model, but very similar Saeco.


You keep the tank full of water, the hopper full of beans, and the dreg drawer emptied. Descale it every couple of moons and you get a great cup of coffee at the push of a button. It grinds the beans and brews it by the cup. Also makes espresso, cappucino etc. steams the cream for latté too.

Although our well water makes great coffee we use distilled in this machine to keep down the mineral scaling.

Preferred blend is this:
http://www.graffeo.com/
from the San Rafael store, but most often use Seattle Mountain.

I really miss my home coffee when I'm forced to go to Starbucks or some place like that.

I'll drink coffee shop coffee but think of it as a different beverage altogether.

Second choice would be French press, I suppose, but we even like "hobo coffee" or "cowboy coffee" boiled, and with cold water to sink the grounds. No matter how carefully you pour, you are going to drink some mud. Tastes good anyway.



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User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2853 times:

I've had a horrible decline in coffee quality myself lately.

I went from a French Press (and grinder) to a standard coffee pot.

Then I switched to ground coffee.

Then I switched to some expensive coffee I bought in Hawaii that I don't like.

Because of the coffee that I don't like, I don't want to buy more coffee to replace it, so I have been stopping by Starbucks each morning on the way to work. Luckily they only charge me for a small (tall) when I bring my big steel coffee cup (which I bought at Starbucks).

I prefer a really bitter bold coffee, like Starbucks usually has, such as Sumatra, Kenya, etc and I don't put anything in it. The Hawaiian stuff is too mild.

Sorry for rambling rather than answering the question.
Matt


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2843 times:

Here's my rather low budget solution.

Equipment:
Drip coffee machine
Moka jar (2 cups). This clever little machine is a great buy.
Coming soon: A grinding machine.

Coffee:
Small quantity of freshly ground high-grown arabica coffee bought at a nearby dealer (Bola de Oro, from Coatepec, Veracruz).
For espresso: finely ground and dark roast.
For regular coffee: medium ground and city toast

I've concluded that freshly ground coffee is the only way to go.


User currently offlineMBMBOS From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

I enjoy French press style coffee, although I most often use a drip.

One thing I've noticed with all coffee makers is that the parts that are most exposed to the coffee tend to build up a coffee oil that turns rancid and bitter after time. It seems to affect the flavor of the brew.

We are admonished to never use detergent on coffee makers but there are some commercial products you can purchase to clean your coffee maker. I choose, however, to use ice, salt and baking soda to clean out the stale, bitter flavors. It seems to work well.


User currently offlineTylerdurden From United States of America, joined May 2008, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

I used to drink whatever is in the coffee maker at work. It's just coffee.

After realizing what it does to your breath....I'm happy with just a water in the morning now. And I feel about 200% better without all that caffeine.

I've lobbied unscuccessfully to have the machine removed---clients want coffee from time to time.

On a nice cold crip day---I'll take a cup with some Bailey's in it.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

Buy it from my wife's Caribou Coffee store.  Big grin  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineNotar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2804 times:



Quoting Tylerdurden (Reply 10):
On a nice cold crip day---I'll take a cup with some Bailey's in it.

Hahaha, well said!



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User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3553 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

I just boil my water in a kettle, heat the milk in the microwave and use a spoon full of instant. I'm no coffee snob so it tastes good to me.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2779 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Thread starter):

What brand and blend and roast are you using? Some roasts you may need to use more or less in the pot. I can always tell when I put too little or too much coffee in the hopper of my coffee maker.

I keep saying I'm going to go from using ground coffee to beans, but I would have to special order the beans (not a big issue as they do have the ability to do 1 lb. bags), as my company normally packs beans in 5 lb. bags, and it would take me quite a while to go through five pounds of coffee (I only make coffee on my days off.). The coffee I currently use comes in 1.5 oz packages which I empty into my coffee jar and scoop from there.

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 4):
My favorite coffee is Doyue Egberts, but I can never find it in the stores.

They're the ones that make the liquid coffee concentrate that places like Burger King use (That's right folks, BK Joe is hot water with coffee concentrate added to it.). Liquid coffee concentrate (as well as liquid tea concentrate) are quite nasty.

You can find their coffee for saleon Amazon.com. I had some of their coffee during my last trip to Las Vegas, as the Golden Nugget uses their coffee in their buffet. It was pretty decent coffee. It definitely was not their concentrate.

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 7):
I prefer a really bitter bold coffee, like Starbucks usually has, such as Sumatra, Kenya, etc and I don't put anything in it. The Hawaiian stuff is too mild.

Kona is good coffee, but not too many places sell 100% Kona because it is so expensive (Anywhere between $15-25/lb.), so they blend in other coffees so they can sell it at a cheaper price. If you do see a 100% Kona, it's in a small package (like 7 or 8 oz.) You may have gotten a blend where they used either a lighter roast of perhaps the other beans they blended with it were very mild.

Sumatrans are among my favorites. Right now, that's the coffee I'm enjoying. When my supply of it runs out, I may go for our company's Northern Italian Blend.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2750 times:

At my place, I stick with a French press as my girlfriend doesn't drink coffee all the time and I don't like the results I get from doing a small batch in a drip machine. My parent's have both, but they usually use the drip because they normally drink 1.5-2 cups a piece, which translates to about 8 cups in drip pot measurement.

It is really easy to make a full batch of drip coffee. Take one of those old style grinders that people often use as a spice grinder now, and fill it to the brim, packing tightly. Grind all that up to a medium-ish grind and put in the machine. Fill the water reservoir up to between 10 and 12 cups and turn it on. Works great, and brews strong, tasty coffee.

For a press, it depends on the size of the press and how much you are making. For the most common size, I generally grind enough coffee to fill about an inch of the press before the water goes in. I also add all the boiling water at once, as opposed to doing half to start, then half just before plunging. I find you really extract the best flavor this way. 4-6 minutes later, I plunge slowly.

Quoting Planespotting (Thread starter):

I used to use a traditional drip machine, but found that coffee tastes better with the French press. However, I definitely see wilder variations with the press, in terms of taste.

Actually, I think it is the opposite. I find that a plain old drip machine is a really good way to tell whether coffee is good or not, while a press will extract strength out of even swill like Maxwell House.

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 14):

Kona is good coffee, but not too many places sell 100% Kona because it is so expensive (Anywhere between $15-25/lb.),

Kona is fine, but it isn't worth paying more for.

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 14):
If you do see a 100% Kona, it's in a small package (like 7 or 8 oz.)

And then they jack the price up even more.

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 14):

Sumatrans are among my favorites.

Big fan of Allegro's (Whole Foods) Sumatra Blue Batak. Also like to blend it half and half with their Extra Dark French Roast.



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User currently offlineDFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2739 times:



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 14):
Kona is good coffee, but not too many places sell 100% Kona because it is so expensive (Anywhere between $15-25/lb.), so they blend in other coffees so they can sell it at a cheaper price. If you do see a 100% Kona, it's in a small package (like 7 or 8 oz.) You may have gotten a blend where they used either a lighter roast of perhaps the other beans they blended with it were very mild.

I bought both. I'm on the 100% Kona in the 8oz that cost me like $20 or $25. I'm just not as big on it. One thing I've noticed about Hawaiian coffee is that they don't grow Arabica beans, which means the quality is going to be a bit less. They only grow the Robusta, so maybe that's part of it.

Oh well I'm inspired to try it freshly ground with the French Press in the morning. We'll try again!


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2730 times:



http://www.amazon.com/AeroPress-Coff...=home-garden&qid=1216182412&sr=8-1

A great way to make good coffee. I have this press. It's very much like a French Press. I really enjoy the Aeropress the coffee always comes out great tasting.

My only complaint is when I am really tired (when I really need coffee) I find it tough to go through all of the motions to have one cup-whereas a machine you scoop the coffee, pour the water and hit the switch.

It may be more steps, but the taste makes it worthwhile.



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User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

Manual methods have captured my attention lately.
What would be the pros and cons of an AeroPress vs a Melitta or Chemex manual drip?
What I'd really like is coffee good enough to carry in a thermo for 1 hour to avoid buying the overly expensive coffee sold at my workplace. BTW What would constitute a good thermo? Any materials or brands I should be aware of?


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9235 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

spend the money ... buy the Starbucks Colombian grounds.

put it in the Mr. Coffee

pour the water.

set the timer for 2:05 a.m.

it brews, i wake up for my first cup at 2:08 a.m., add a little whole milk, have some sugar and we're off and running and it tastes wonderful.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
Buy it from my wife's Caribou Coffee store.

they have those in Ohio?

fetch.



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User currently offlineAerorobNZ From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6900 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

The key to good coffee is to use fresh beans ground in a good quality grinder. It then needs to go through an espresso machine rather than a filter. I'm partial to Ethiopian/East African beans.
I have only had good coffee in Continental Europe, Kenya/Uganda and Australia & New Zealand. Everywhere else tries to pass filter coffee off as the real thing.


User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

So, anybody brews his/her coffee manually? Do you recommend it?

User currently offlineMoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2242 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

It's coffee guys, all it needs to be is hot, black and caffeinated.

You would have loved the flight kitchen coffee we used to get for our KC-135 flights. Brewed in a 55 gallon drum, we would pick up one or two one-gallon metal containers along with our box lunches before heading to the jet. The containers had built-in heaters which plugged into the galley. Unfortunately, the on/off toggle switch on the galley was rarely marked, and not always installed in the same direction. Typically, you found out the switch was in the wrong direction about 30 minutes into the flight, when the Boom Operator brought you a cup of cold, black coffee. You tell the Boom to flip the switch the other way, and an hour later you have re-heated black coffee. After about an 8 hour flight, it was just what you needed to wake you up for an ILS to minimums.

[Edited 2008-07-22 10:02:22]


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 2550 times:
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I use one of these for espresso:



I've got an adjustable Pavoni grinder, too. I was amazed at how crucial it is to get the size of the grind just right. Too big, and you end up with coffee-flavored water. Too small, and (if you can even pull the shot) it's pure black, super-concentrated hi-test. It's fun and rewarding to strike the perfect balance.

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 2539 times:



Quoting AM744 (Reply 18):
What I'd really like is coffee good enough to carry in a thermo for 1 hour to avoid buying the overly expensive coffee sold at my workplace. BTW What would constitute a good thermo? Any materials or brands I should be aware of?

My mom has used a Thermos Nissan for years with great success.

Quoting AM744 (Reply 21):
So, anybody brews his/her coffee manually? Do you recommend it?

I think a lot of us brew "manually" if you mean using a French Press or something of the sort.



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25 Post contains links and images OA260 : You cant beat Nespresso!! I will always be loyal to them and there are so many types/blends to choose from . Expresso, Cappuchino, Latte you name it y
26 AM744 : Sorry if wasn't clear enough. I was thinking more along the lines of non-automatic Melitta brewers in which stove top heated water is poured over som
27 N1120A : Talking about a Moka Pot? Or perhaps a percolator?
28 Planespotting : I'm not sure what I did this morning that was different, but I banged out the best coffee to come out of my french press in months! I stayed away from
29 DFW13L : I went to Starbucks, which I have been doing for the last week or two, and they were out of their "bold" coffee and I settled for "Pike's Place." It's
30 Notar520AC : I don't fancy it that much either. In fact, a lot of their blends seem very acidic. Maybe it's just me?
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