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States In The USA That Adopt Metric System?  
User currently offlineKLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 810 posts, RR: 22
Posted (5 years 9 months 23 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

"your correct! where i live we use the metric system quiet frequently here in Indiana. so much that it is like it is second nature. when we hear that my friend got a ticket for 100kph in a 65 kph zone we automatically know he got in trouble for doing 60mph in a 40mph.
temps are also given in degrees Celsius here. and some speed limit signs are only in kph"

This is a bit I picked from another forum. The guy who wrote this lives somewhere in Indiana,
doesn't specify where.

So is that true, are there areas in the USA where both system are used, and the metric
system has grown accustomed to the people. I'm talking about average Joe here, not
Medicines, Military, etc.

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User currently offlineKellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 683 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 23 hours ago) and read 4281 times:

I don't know of anyplace like that, and I travel a lot in this country.

I like the metric system, but I don't see us changing anytime soon. Everything is still in feet, inches, miles, pounds and gallons. It would be very expensive to change, and there would be a lot of resistance to it.

Oops. One exception in aviation. The weather reports, METARS show temperatures in Centigrade, but in addition it is shown in tenths of a degree, as it is not as precise as Fahrenheit. But the visibility and cloud layers are still shown in miles and hundreds of feet.


User currently offlineTz757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2866 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 9 months 21 hours ago) and read 4133 times:



Quoting Kellmark (Reply 2):
I don't know of anyplace like that, and I travel a lot in this country.

As I travel this route often, If you drive between Dover and Wilmington, DE, SR-1 has all their exits in metric. The mileposts are still in miles, but the exit numbers go by km.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (5 years 9 months 21 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

Canada is fully metric but you may have some mileage signage near or on major roads to/from the Canadian border in the USA in both miles and kilometers.

User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11134 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 4085 times:



Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
Canada is fully metric but you may have some mileage signage near or on major roads to/from the Canadian border in the USA in both miles and kilometers.

Same on the Washington side of the boarder for those coming from the Vancouver area.

I do not know of any states using metric. Rarely will I see temperatures on bank buildings given in centegrade as well as farenhiet. There is one speed sign in San Anselmo, California that has both MPH and KPH, but that is it.

Oh, and soda.



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User currently offlineKhelmDTW From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 4054 times:

Related, but a bit off topic;

Why, if the UK uses the metric system, are the road distances on signs measured Imperial style (miles, yards)?



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User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 4047 times:

Driving north from BOS into New Hampshire, all distances on the highway shown in miles and km. I thought that was odd, until someone said it was meant for Canadians. But I'd think the only thing the Canadians cared about would be signs going South, that said "Florida - 2,000 km"  Wink

By the way, I think that since 1975, the metric system is the only legal system of measurement in the US. For whatever that's worth. Oh, and only three countries have not, in practice, done much to adapt to the metric system: Burma, Liberia and the United States. What lovely company we got  Smile


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 4044 times:

AFAIK, all the interstates leading to the Mexican border are in metric, starting from the first major city they switch to KPH. I know for sure at least in AZ, TX and NM, as I've actually driven there.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12065 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 4032 times:



Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 7):
By the way, I think that since 1975, the metric system is the only legal system of measurement in the US.

No, it is not. I 1974, the US Congress tried to force the US onto the metric system, saying it would bring the US into the "international world. Most Americans were against it. Then Congress repaeled the law in 1978 when those mential midgets figuered out how much it was going to cost. At the time, it would have cost about half as much for the US to fund the rest of the world to convert to the imperial system of measurement.

Today, it is just not important to anyone.

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 7):
Oh, and only three countries have not, in practice, done much to adapt to the metric system: Burma, Liberia and the United States.

The UK uses both systems.


User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 4029 times:

Metric system is used extensively in the US in places where it's necessary. Medicine and other science fields especially.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29706 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 4017 times:



Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 7):
No, it is not. I 1974, the US Congress tried to force the US onto the metric system, saying it would bring the US into the "international world. Most Americans were against it. Then Congress repaeled the law in 1978 when those mential midgets figuered out how much it was going to cost. At the time, it would have cost about half as much for the US to fund the rest of the world to convert to the imperial system of measurement.

We are still paying for a guy in DC to "Promote" the metric system. It's a waste of my tax money IMHO.

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 10):

Metric system is used extensively in the US in places where it's necessary

It is never "Necessary" to use the metric system. It is only convinent in those fields.

Frankly I am glad we never had to deal with the proposed metric alphabet.....the decibet.

I couldn't find a vidoe of the informational announcement they put out in 1975, but here is a link to the transcript.

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75rdecabet.phtml



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User currently offlineHywel From Peru, joined Apr 2008, 771 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 4017 times:



Quoting KhelmDTW (Reply 5):
Related, but a bit off topic;

Why, if the UK uses the metric system, are the road distances on signs measured Imperial style (miles, yards)?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4741894.stm

Some information for you.


User currently offlineKLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 810 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

I think that if someone that wasn't raised with one or the other system would have to judge,
he/her might find the metric system more easy/logical. But for the USA to adopt the
metric system it would take an entire generation before everyone would get used to it.

The Euro has been introduced for many years now, yet I still find myself converting prices
to my old currency.
Imagine if people would suddenly have to start doing that with multiple measures, they would
go crazy!!


User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 3987 times:



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 8):
The UK uses both systems.

Yes, of course they do. And in a few niche areas, a bunch of other countries use the imperial system too, as well as a range of other non-metric systems. That's why I clearly said "three countries have not, in practice, done much to adapt to the metric system"

Now, though, I think it's pointless for us to change in the US - too expensive, too confusing and not much gain. Besides, I prefer weight in lbs and temperature in fahrenheit - much more precise!

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 8):
I 1974, the US Congress tried to force the US onto the metric system...Then Congress repaeled the law in 1978

Are you sure? I didn't think it was ever repealed. The "Metric Conversion Act" of 1975 is still in force, I think. Only people stopped bothering to pay it any attention.

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 9):
Metric system is used extensively in the US in places where it's necessary. Medicine and other science fields especially.

You would think! After that Mars probe disaster.


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9487 posts, RR: 42
Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 3981 times:



Quoting KhelmDTW (Reply 5):
Why, if the UK uses the metric system, are the road distances on signs measured Imperial style (miles, yards)?

Who says we "use the metric system"? We use it in some contexts, such as legal weights and measures, science and engineering but not on the roads.

Quoting Hywel (Reply 11):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4741894.stm

Some information for you.

From that article:

"a report by the UK Metric Association says.

The imperial signs are a "confusing" exception as most of the UK officially operates in metric measures, it claims.

It says conversion would make it easier to calculate fuel consumption and enable more finely tuned speed limits. "


"The UK Metric Association says..." big surprise.  Smile

Fuel consumption is [distance/fuel used], regardless of units and increments of 5 mph are quite sufficient for "finely tuned" speed limits. I agree it would be better if we'd always used the metric system but I'm pretty sure it would be more confusing for most people to switch to using the metric system on our roads. There's just no need.


User currently offlineSAN787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

As mentioned above, there are areas here near the Mexican border where signage is in both m/km and mph/kph. I've seen signs in both on the leg between LA and Vegas as well. Additionally, originally being from Indiana, I am not sure I have ever seen any signage in metric in the state. The guy may have been referring to verbal dialogue between he and some friends...because I can guarantee he did not get a ticket written in kph, unless his buddy was the cop.  eyebrow 

I can say I would love to see the US stop being a dinosaur and adopt the metric system! Getting change initiated in our bureaucratic society and getting Americans to adopt change is the real bear in this.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 3956 times:

Not everything in countries that uses metric system is exclusively metric. In aviation, most countries use the imperial system with only few things in metric. Of course, there are always variations (e.g while it's common to see distances in nautical miles for the pilots, in some countries aircraft have weight measures in the metric system, plus there is the QNH issue (mBar vs inHg), which however can be switched to either of the two systems while flying). It's much worse when you fly into Russia or China, where absolutely everything is in the metric system, which does cause a few headaches when you're using an aircraft, where most of the displays are imperial.

User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1343 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

The state of Florida uses both imperial and metric systems on mile markers on the interstate highways.

User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 3855 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 4):
There is one speed sign in San Anselmo, California that has both MPH and KPH, but that is it.

Useless bit of trivia on the subject of metric road signs in California: the California Suppliment to the Manual on Uniform Trafic Control Devices (MUTCD), issued by CalTrans specifically prohibits the use of, among others, the metric version of the speed limit sign in new installations and replacements of existing sgns.

I've seen a couple distance signs in CA on I-15 that are cosigned miles and km (e.g. "Temecula 30 mi xx km") but those are/were exceptionally rare... and I haven't seen any outside the state of California

Lincoln
(Don't ask me why I remembered that, especially since I haven't lived in CA for 3 years)



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32209 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 3845 times:

Certain areas in south Miami-Dade County use the metric system on signage.


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User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5396 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 3817 times:

When I was a kid in elementary school (late 1960s), in Dallas, we were taught the metric system in depth and told that we would be fully converted by (I think they said) 1972. Surely it could not have been that difficult?


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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3819 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 8 hours ago) and read 3803 times:



Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 13):
Besides, I prefer weight in lbs and temperature in fahrenheit - much more precise!

Yeah, 1 oz is definitely more precise than 28.7 grams. Maybe that is why americans are so fat, their smallest unit of weight corresponds to almost 30 grams. Big grin  duck 



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User currently offlineSAN787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 3783 times:



Quoting Lincoln (Reply 18):
've seen a couple distance signs in CA on I-15 that are cosigned miles and km (e.g. "Temecula 30 mi xx km") but those are/were exceptionally rare...

...haha, and yes, it's still there! The 15-North somewhere around Fallbrook...



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3288 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3721 times:



Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 17):
The state of Florida uses both imperial and metric systems on mile markers on the interstate highways.

 Confused

Where? Never seen it, lived here all my life, have traveled on almost every major interstate within its borders...



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User currently offlineCzbbflier From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 970 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

I think that in the United States, the population is very slowly converting to metric. As usual, however, it's happening differently there than it did in other countries: it's happening organically. In other words, the government isn't dictating that "Henceforth, Thou shalt use Metric!", rather people are discovering the ease of its use and its showing up on packages, roads and other places. The government will eventually catch on....

Besides, with immigration (legal and, yes, illegal) from other countries, those people already are familiar with the metric system and so 'conversion' isn't such a big deal.

On another note.... there are threads where people mention mis-spellings that drive them crazy this is one of mine:

kph is not a metric measurement. km/h is the correct notation as each unit of measurement has it's own notation: k= kilo (1000), m=metres, /=per, h=hour.


25 Post contains links KC135TopBoom : " target=_blank>http://snltranscripts.jt.org/75/75rd...phtml Actually, that Mars Probe crash was partialy blamed on incorrect conversion of some info
26 Johnboy : For years the original stretch of the Jefferson Freeway/Gene Snyder Freeway bypass around Louisville, Kentucky had distances in miles and km. I haven'
27 SpinalTap : For some reason fuel consumption values are commonly stated in L/(100 km) rather than km/L so the values are related inversely to values in MPG, i.e
28 Dougloid : All the newer USGS topographical survey maps are in metric measurements. No, it simply means we do not get cheated on our food when we eat out.
29 DLPMMM : 28.35 grams would be more precise.
30 KC135TopBoom : 1 meter equils about 39"
31 PHLBOS : I'm not positive on this but I believe that the above-mentioned act was supposed to make the Metric System fully implemented by 1985. I'm not sure ab
32 DLPMMM : I would have said 1 meter equals about 39" (39.4" to be a bit more precise.), but you say tomato, I say tomatoe....
33 Post contains images TZ757300 : Why do I get the feeling that both of us has talked about this before? Well, heres a picture of a metric sign....
34 N1120A : That post was absolutely inaccurate. Perhaps the person was an engineer or something? The UK uses a weird mixed system, and even that doesn't apply a
35 PHLBOS : We have, probably in a previous-related thread. Although that sign showing the distance in km is a new one (to me). The last time I was on that parti
36 Molykote : [distance/fuel used] would more accurately be described as something like "fuel economy" or "fuel efficiency" as a higher [distance/fuel used] value
37 Kent350787 : Australia converted progressively to metric from about 1972 - I was in 2nd grade. But I have this weird combination of metric and imperial in my head.
38 TZ757300 : Metric Currency?
39 L-188 : It wasn't about the metric system, it was about being different from the redcoats. Five-pence of a further six-pence my arse!
40 RedFlyer : Gee, I wonder if south of the border the Mexicans put up Imperial (Standard) measurements for travelers heading north?
41 Kent350787 : Sorry, I should have put quotes and a smilie on that one The metric system is decimal, and much simpler and logical as a result. The US currency is d
42 Scottieprecord : Not entirely true. IAH has both MPH and km/h on the main entrance road... not sure what they expect the foreigners to do as soon as they leave the ai
43 DocLightning : Shaddap or we'll sit on you, punk!
44 Ronglimeng : In North America there seemed to be agitation back in the 1970's to adopt the metric system. In Canada the citizens seemed to swallow the idea and we
45 DeskPilot : I'm with you on that one Kent350787 - everything in metric except people's height ! Not to mention guineas too. How the hell did they automate that i
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