KLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 813 posts, RR: 21 Posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7227 times:
"your correct! where i live we use the metric system quiet frequently here in Indiana. so much that it is like it is second nature. when we hear that my friend got a ticket for 100kph in a 65 kph zone we automatically know he got in trouble for doing 60mph in a 40mph.
temps are also given in degrees Celsius here. and some speed limit signs are only in kph"
This is a bit I picked from another forum. The guy who wrote this lives somewhere in Indiana,
doesn't specify where.
So is that true, are there areas in the USA where both system are used, and the metric
system has grown accustomed to the people. I'm talking about average Joe here, not
Medicines, Military, etc.
Kellmark From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 698 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7212 times:
I don't know of anyplace like that, and I travel a lot in this country.
I like the metric system, but I don't see us changing anytime soon. Everything is still in feet, inches, miles, pounds and gallons. It would be very expensive to change, and there would be a lot of resistance to it.
Oops. One exception in aviation. The weather reports, METARS show temperatures in Centigrade, but in addition it is shown in tenths of a degree, as it is not as precise as Fahrenheit. But the visibility and cloud layers are still shown in miles and hundreds of feet.
Seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13100 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7016 times:
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4): Canada is fully metric but you may have some mileage signage near or on major roads to/from the Canadian border in the USA in both miles and kilometers.
Same on the Washington side of the boarder for those coming from the Vancouver area.
I do not know of any states using metric. Rarely will I see temperatures on bank buildings given in centegrade as well as farenhiet. There is one speed sign in San Anselmo, California that has both MPH and KPH, but that is it.
Misbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6978 times:
Driving north from BOS into New Hampshire, all distances on the highway shown in miles and km. I thought that was odd, until someone said it was meant for Canadians. But I'd think the only thing the Canadians cared about would be signs going South, that said "Florida - 2,000 km"
By the way, I think that since 1975, the metric system is the only legal system of measurement in the US. For whatever that's worth. Oh, and only three countries have not, in practice, done much to adapt to the metric system: Burma, Liberia and the United States. What lovely company we got
KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12308 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6963 times:
Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 7): By the way, I think that since 1975, the metric system is the only legal system of measurement in the US.
No, it is not. I 1974, the US Congress tried to force the US onto the metric system, saying it would bring the US into the "international world. Most Americans were against it. Then Congress repaeled the law in 1978 when those mential midgets figuered out how much it was going to cost. At the time, it would have cost about half as much for the US to fund the rest of the world to convert to the imperial system of measurement.
Today, it is just not important to anyone.
Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 7): Oh, and only three countries have not, in practice, done much to adapt to the metric system: Burma, Liberia and the United States.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30176 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6948 times:
Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 7): No, it is not. I 1974, the US Congress tried to force the US onto the metric system, saying it would bring the US into the "international world. Most Americans were against it. Then Congress repaeled the law in 1978 when those mential midgets figuered out how much it was going to cost. At the time, it would have cost about half as much for the US to fund the rest of the world to convert to the imperial system of measurement.
We are still paying for a guy in DC to "Promote" the metric system. It's a waste of my tax money IMHO.
Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 10):
Metric system is used extensively in the US in places where it's necessary
It is never "Necessary" to use the metric system. It is only convinent in those fields.
Frankly I am glad we never had to deal with the proposed metric alphabet.....the decibet.
I couldn't find a vidoe of the informational announcement they put out in 1975, but here is a link to the transcript.
KLMCedric From Belgium, joined Dec 2003, 813 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6923 times:
I think that if someone that wasn't raised with one or the other system would have to judge,
he/her might find the metric system more easy/logical. But for the USA to adopt the
metric system it would take an entire generation before everyone would get used to it.
The Euro has been introduced for many years now, yet I still find myself converting prices
to my old currency.
Imagine if people would suddenly have to start doing that with multiple measures, they would
Yes, of course they do. And in a few niche areas, a bunch of other countries use the imperial system too, as well as a range of other non-metric systems. That's why I clearly said "three countries have not, in practice, done much to adapt to the metric system"
Now, though, I think it's pointless for us to change in the US - too expensive, too confusing and not much gain. Besides, I prefer weight in lbs and temperature in fahrenheit - much more precise!
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 8): I 1974, the US Congress tried to force the US onto the metric system...Then Congress repaeled the law in 1978
Are you sure? I didn't think it was ever repealed. The "Metric Conversion Act" of 1975 is still in force, I think. Only people stopped bothering to pay it any attention.
Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 9): Metric system is used extensively in the US in places where it's necessary. Medicine and other science fields especially.
The imperial signs are a "confusing" exception as most of the UK officially operates in metric measures, it claims.
It says conversion would make it easier to calculate fuel consumption and enable more finely tuned speed limits. "
"The UK Metric Association says..." big surprise.
Fuel consumption is [distance/fuel used], regardless of units and increments of 5 mph are quite sufficient for "finely tuned" speed limits. I agree it would be better if we'd always used the metric system but I'm pretty sure it would be more confusing for most people to switch to using the metric system on our roads. There's just no need.
SAN787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6902 times:
As mentioned above, there are areas here near the Mexican border where signage is in both m/km and mph/kph. I've seen signs in both on the leg between LA and Vegas as well. Additionally, originally being from Indiana, I am not sure I have ever seen any signage in metric in the state. The guy may have been referring to verbal dialogue between he and some friends...because I can guarantee he did not get a ticket written in kph, unless his buddy was the cop.
I can say I would love to see the US stop being a dinosaur and adopt the metric system! Getting change initiated in our bureaucratic society and getting Americans to adopt change is the real bear in this.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 14101 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6887 times:
Not everything in countries that uses metric system is exclusively metric. In aviation, most countries use the imperial system with only few things in metric. Of course, there are always variations (e.g while it's common to see distances in nautical miles for the pilots, in some countries aircraft have weight measures in the metric system, plus there is the QNH issue (mBar vs inHg), which however can be switched to either of the two systems while flying). It's much worse when you fly into Russia or China, where absolutely everything is in the metric system, which does cause a few headaches when you're using an aircraft, where most of the displays are imperial.
Lincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6786 times:
Quoting Seb146 (Reply 4): There is one speed sign in San Anselmo, California that has both MPH and KPH, but that is it.
Useless bit of trivia on the subject of metric road signs in California: the California Suppliment to the Manual on Uniform Trafic Control Devices (MUTCD), issued by CalTrans specifically prohibits the use of, among others, the metric version of the speed limit sign in new installations and replacements of existing sgns.
I've seen a couple distance signs in CA on I-15 that are cosigned miles and km (e.g. "Temecula 30 mi xx km") but those are/were exceptionally rare... and I haven't seen any outside the state of California
(Don't ask me why I remembered that, especially since I haven't lived in CA for 3 years)
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SCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5932 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6748 times:
When I was a kid in elementary school (late 1960s), in Dallas, we were taught the metric system in depth and told that we would be fully converted by (I think they said) 1972. Surely it could not have been that difficult?
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Czbbflier From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 1006 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6645 times:
I think that in the United States, the population is very slowly converting to metric. As usual, however, it's happening differently there than it did in other countries: it's happening organically. In other words, the government isn't dictating that "Henceforth, Thou shalt use Metric!", rather people are discovering the ease of its use and its showing up on packages, roads and other places. The government will eventually catch on....
Besides, with immigration (legal and, yes, illegal) from other countries, those people already are familiar with the metric system and so 'conversion' isn't such a big deal.
On another note.... there are threads where people mention mis-spellings that drive them crazy this is one of mine:
kph is not a metric measurement. km/h is the correct notation as each unit of measurement has it's own notation: k= kilo (1000), m=metres, /=per, h=hour.
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