Connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3574 times:
Kind of spoils the ambience, doesn't it ? But seriously, a terrible thing to experience. Just about 15km west of Winnipeg, my home town, puts it at about Elie. Usually the news from there is that the TCH is closed due to a whiteout, not something like this.
Does this means metal detectors and body searches for bus travel now ?
Almost surely some kind of mental derangement in this case.
N867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 984 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3550 times:
This is very disturbing. I guess it's hard to enjoy the "wide, panoramic windows" if something like happens! Security on public transit (except planes and cruise lines) is simply nonexistent. On the local train, they have signs that say you can't bring knives, weapons (except firearms with a valid permit), etc...but I have never been checked. You can carry enough ammo to start a small war and 20 knives in a bag for all anyone cares. Of course airport-style screening to take a 15 minute train ride is impractical and probably far too expensive.
It definitely sounds like a mental case. It's also not the first time Greyhound has had to deal with murder on the bus. Most of their trips go off without a hitch but reading things like this...whew!
Powercube From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 265 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3239 times:
Edmonton is the home of bus murders for Canada. After all, it was just last year there was a "random slaying" on a local ETS vehicle because a man wore a Metallica T-shirt. Nothing that originates from this city surprises me any more. Yes, I am aware the crime happened in Manitoba but
I actually know the Greyhound driver that got attacked...decided to leave GLI after this happened.
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 15): May the victim Rest in Peace. As for the criminal, I hope he gets the maximum punishment allowed in Canada.
Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 13): Perp had just gotten on the bus in Brandon, not too far from attack site
Theres still flaws in Greyhound security...but the searches are not as hardcore as airport security. When i used to work for GLI, there were security personel that check random, if not all, all departing schedules. The security search included body wand/patdown, and physical inspection of carry-on luggage. All sharp objects that could be used as a weapon were removed. It wasnt until after the 2nd driver attack incident ( where my friend Abel got stabbed by a passenger on board his bus enroute to San Francisco ) did the company decide to make modifications to the bus fleet. They added a security barrier to protect the driver from a would-be attacker and safely pull the bus over.
Bus stations in very small towns with no security at all is no doubt a definite issue. Perhaps maybe GLC can work with police in small towns to provide security ... by checking customers that board buses there.
Quoting Dragon6172 (Reply 2): This is why I stopped riding the bus many years ago, damn crazies on the bus
WESTERN737800 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 689 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3113 times:
There are some disturbed indivuals out there. A friend was riding home on the bus. He said he overheard 2 guys who just got out of prison. They were talking about where they could get some crack on the next stop. My friend then got up and walked to the front of the bus.
ScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1490 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3075 times:
Quoting WESTERN737800 (Reply 19): There are some disturbed indivuals out there. A friend was riding home on the bus. He said he overheard 2 guys who just got out of prison. They were talking about where they could get some crack on the next stop. My friend then got up and walked to the front of the bus.
great story, pretty darn close some guy randomly beheading another and taunting police with a severed human head!
You live in the city and its not unlikely you will hear about crack. Beheading on the other hand is completely different.
It is getting a lot of news coverage here as it is pretty close to winnipeg. The RCMP just finished a news conference about it.
Connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3035 times:
Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 20): It is getting a lot of news coverage here as it is pretty close to winnipeg. The RCMP just finished a news conference about it.
Not much of a news conference as most answers were "I don't know" and "No comment" or "Not at this time". Apparently formal charges to be laid tomorrow by the Crown Prosecutor (DA, in US-speak), at which point the attacker's identity will be known.
However, it is getting lots of attention - was the lead on CNN @ 3.
Very disturbing all around. I agree with Glid4500 that security is a problem in small towns, and that improving it will be costly, which will drive down ridership. Not sure exactly what the arrangements are in Canada -- I've never noted any bag searches the few times I've used them. Intoxicated people are not allowed on, to my knowledge.
I expect the other pax will need a fair bit of counseling after this, which Greyhound has offered to provide. Also the cops.
The last time I stepped foot on a greyhound was 1994. From what I remember even in the US no bag searches. I'm sure greyhound is one of the more convienent ways to smuggle drugs, weapons etc...that seems to be the persception on the gemral population.
25 StasisLAX: Rode Greyhound once, a couple of years ago from Tucson to Phoenix. Some passengers were very nice and enjoyable to chat with - but a couple of other p