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Death Row Inmate Too Fat For Execution  
User currently offlineDrgreen757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 155 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5669 times:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,397082,00.html

Apparently he's on a drug that could diminish the effect of thiopental, the drug used to put him to sleep before he's executed. He's worried he could go thru excruciating pain. Poor baby! What about the two students he raped and murdered. I say drag him out behind the shed and put a bullit in his head. I'm sorry, I have no sympathy for people like this.


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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8683 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5651 times:

I have another solution. Drum roll please. The electric chair is your friend for this mission.

Hunter



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5628 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 1):
I have another solution. Drum roll please. The electric chair is your friend for this mission.

No you don't..
For your information the electric chair is not a option in Ohio. On November 15, 2001, Governor Bob Taft signed House Bill 362 eliminating the electric chair as a form of execution. The only method of execution in Ohio is lethal injection.

And on top of that Ohio has dismantled their old electric chair eight years ago. From an Ohio DOC website: On February 26, 2002, Ohio’s electric chair, nicknamed "Old Sparky," was decommissioned and disconnected from service.

Besides at this guys height and weight be might not fit into the chair.


User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3394 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5606 times:

Too bad, fatty.  devil 

Doesn't the prison have exercise facilities and whatnot? If he didn't want to suffer during his execution, then he should've taken better care of himself.


User currently offlineVictrola From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5602 times:

I think it is the prison's responsibility to get him on a diet and workout regimen so that he is in tip top shape for his execution. Let's face it, execution can be a stressful process and the better shape you are in the better you will be to handle it.

I would recommend a good cardio program. Get that heart pumping so that the poison will flow quickly to vital body parts. Weight training would also be a good supliment to the cardio program. You need to get those big muscles with the bulging veins. This assures accurate needle placement.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5591 times:

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 3):
Doesn't the prison have exercise facilities and whatnot?

The growing trend in this country is that death row inmate are locked in single person cells for 24 hours a day, with perhaps 3 hours a week for exercise and shower etc. I should add, the exercise area is a basically a small pen that is able to hold one person.

In my county as soon as the judge signs the paperwork, the inmate is put in a vehicle and transported to the state pen in Florence, Arizona.

[Edited 2008-08-04 13:34:55]

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Azerbaijan, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 14079 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5568 times:

The Russians had less problems with this issue:
One corner in a prison court yard with a stack of sandbags, two guard to hold the prisoner in a kneeling position, one guard with a pistol and one bullet.

Jan


User currently offlineBlackProjects From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 756 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5543 times:

Yes the Russians always did know the Quickest way of removing a Problem having lots of Practice from the CZAR and then the Comuinst Party.

I.S.STALIN refined the art of Execution to a fine point but he got carried away and in the end he was rumored to have been Executed by one of his own.

"What goes around comes around"

 old 


User currently offlineGoBoeing From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 2706 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5539 times:

Lack of food kills, too. Plus it's free!

User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5490 times:



Quoting Drgreen757 (Thread starter):
Poor baby! What about the two students he raped and murdered.

Totally agree. He doesn't want to have ouchies for a few seconds while he dies? Poor thing, maybe he should have thought about that as he raped and then murdered the girls. Even worse is that his case has gotten this far. He should be given only the minimal amounts to survive and then once at a sufficient weight, stick him. Rather, have the executioner prod around first and miss the vein a few times, then get it right.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5474 times:

If anyone here ever have the opportunity to visit death row in your state..do it, you'll gain some real insight.

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

Just increase the drug dosage before the actual execution and that's it. If the guy is concerned about feeling pain while getting executed, he should have never commited a capital crime in the first place.  Yeah sure

Personally, I say bring on the firing squad.


User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5434 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 11):
Just increase the drug dosage before the actual execution and that's it. If the guy is concerned about feeling pain while getting executed, he should have never commited a capital crime in the first place.

Fuck it easy solution,




Let Richard run his fat ass into the ground.



Where did everybody go?
User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5405 times:



Quoting Drgreen757 (Thread starter):
say drag him out behind the shed and put a bullit in his head.

I second that....


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13141 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5387 times:

Maybe they could make him excercise to death and be a little slow with the EMT's. With his fattness, and the junk prison food is, his heart may not last long. It would sure save the state money and probably get him dead sooner than the execution process.

User currently onlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3549 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5323 times:

Speaking of Mr. Cooey, there was a special on his case on A&E's American Justice.


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User currently offlineAirStairs From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5285 times:



Quoting Drgreen757 (Thread starter):
Apparently he's on a drug that could diminish the effect of thiopental, the drug used to put him to sleep before he's executed. He's worried he could go thru excruciating pain.

Let's get him off the drug. I can't imagine it is critical to his short term survival, and the long term does not exist in his case. Problem solved as long as I'm aware. Blood levels of the medicine would be negligent in a matter of days or week at most.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 10):
If anyone here ever have the opportunity to visit death row in your state..do it, you'll gain some real insight.

This I can agree with. While I have not been, my high school held a weeklong ethics forum every year, and once was on the death penalty. Brought in law enforcement, lawyers, politicians, victim's families, clergy, activists, professors, you name it. The only real answer to the debate is that there isn't a simple or categorically right one.


User currently offlineUAL757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 806 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5281 times:

God this country!


Just put an effing bullet in his brain! Or better yet torture him to no end! I have no sympathy for these people.

Civil rights for criminals my arse!!!!!!!!


User currently offlineBlackProjects From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 756 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5220 times:

The Answer is Simple Bring in Madame Guillotine Its Quick so long as the Blade is heavy and sharp or so the french found out.

 old 

Animal rights people complain about testing on Animals why not do it on Deathrow inmates.


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5172 times:



Quoting Victrola (Reply 4):
execution can be a stressful process

Now there's an understatement.

I'm completely against the death penalty anyway. Too many convicts are proven to be innocent. And to me, if one person is wrongfully executed, the whole death penalty should be abolished. Life in prison is severe punishment enough.

And don't forget, life in prison is actually less expensive than the death penalty too. This has been proven in various studies. Another reason to be against it.



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12119 posts, RR: 49
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5147 times:
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Being in Ohio this is getting a fair amount of coverage. I say he should go for his crimes and go quickly. If he does actually feel something then all the better for the families of the murdered girls.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlinePlaneWasted From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

Can't they use him instead of chickens in a GE90 bird ingestion test?
Or just shoot him, how much can that cost? 10$?


User currently offlineBlackProjects From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2007, 756 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

1 $1 for the Bullet how much to clean up afterwards?


GE90 Ingestion Test Hmmmm Dont think the GE90 is Certified for Igesting over weight Killers


User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5095 times:

Wasn't there a prisoner back a few years ago, due to his extensive drug use/ shooting up, his veins were deemed unsuitable for injection, so they had to install ports just before his execution? I want to say it was in Florida......


Ah, Summer, Fenway Park, Boston Red Sox and Beer.....
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5079 times:

I tried to come up with some brainless right wing power statement beating you'll.

However I'm not good it it. .

In Europe everybody stopped doing dead penalty many decades ago.

Crime is low.

Like in the US in China dead penalty is seen as an effective tool against crime.



They use bullets too. Brilliant minds think alike I guess.


25 DocLightning : My view is that if we are going to execute people, we should do it by heroin overdose. You can't argue that the condemned feels any pain other than th
26 CO7e7 : That's because they're on death row appealing and wasting tax payers money for 20 years. After the first appeal, the sentence should be carried out.
27 Post contains links SlamClick : You only think that because you don't understand the career criminal. Charles Manson greatly preferred to be "inside" where drugs and sex were easier
28 LTU932 : I don't know if this is true or just a hollywood myth, but in China, when someone gets executed, they send the bullet to the family of the person who
29 AircraftGeek : What about simple, plain, cyanide capsules?
30 Starbuk7 : I don't see how it is cheaper to keep someone locked up for 30 to 50 years while taxpayers cover the costs of feeding, clothing, sheltering etc. vice
31 MD11Engineer : I've got mixed feelings about the whole death penalty issue. Emotionaly I fullyfeel that some, especially sadist style, violent crimes, or cold bloode
32 Phoenix9 : That will be too easy! For guys like him I suggest the following: Make him eat all he wants but block (read: sew shut) his a$shole. The issue will re
33 LTU932 : You'd have to combine it with a shot to the head for it to reach full effectiveness, but otherwise, not a bad idea. Cyanide works pretty much instant
34 BristolFlyer : Ever heard of lying with statistics? I've got a feeling these studies were put together by some serious anti capital punishment believers. Hmmm If he
35 Post contains links Kappel : Again, it's cheaper on society to imprison somebody for life rather that put them on death row. A simple google search resulted in lots of links, lik
36 Connies4ever : A long-standing tradition was to make the prisoner's family _pay_ for the bullet. But once again I see the great majority of the posts in this thread
37 Connies4ever : My bad. all. I meant to post to the Medillin thread. Only had 1 cup of coffee so far. But my comments about revenge are still applicable.
38 Baroque : Agree in general Connies, except you might be a bit hard on juveniles there. Might have been accidental, but highly apposite nevertheless. Except the
39 SlamClick : That is one of those lies that goes unquestioned all the time. Of course it is not true. Killing them costs very little, chump change in fact. It is
40 Kappel : Have you even bothered to read the article I provided? I have provided evidence onm my perspective, now let me see you provide evidence on yours. In
41 BlackProjects : Maybe Spend some more Tax Payers money and give him Lippo Suction that would Slim him down real fast. Would probably be classed as Cruel and Un Usual
42 SlamClick : The "attitude" is warranted. I've been hearing that lie spread by people for forty years and I'm tired of it going unchallenged. I hate lies even in
43 Post contains links Dougloid : We did away with the death penalty in 1964, and we've never looked back here. A life without parole sentence here is death on the installment plan, a
44 Kappel : Again, have you read the article? First, no, I do not deny that the cost of appeals is included. But then, that is part of the legal system. Of cours
45 MD11Engineer : That's my idea as well, like Devil's Island in the 1930s. As I said before, if an execution is necessary (and it should be the absolute exemption), t
46 DocLightning : Of course they are. Now, Slam, have you any idea how many people have come off Death Row because an appeal has found that the court ignored important
47 Dougloid : Yes. Since it has been in existence the Innocence Project has exonerated about two hundred people, many of whom were in prison for crimes not meritin
48 Baroque : Those advocating the "bullit" solution should write to the Indonesian government as the Bali bombers have lodged a new appeal based on the proposition
49 BlackProjects : Dont Shoot those Monsters feed them to a White Pointer (Great White Shark) or a Salt Water Crocodile as the Ancient Egyptians used to do for Very bad
50 Baroque : AFAIK they used Nile Crocodiles. A Salt Water Crocodile (salty) would have had to be imported from SE Asia. Is there a record of the Pharoahs coming
51 MD11Engineer : this might apply to a typical firing squad execution (done to spread the responsibility, especially if one random rifles is loaded with a blank cartr
52 Kappel : I would home mankind had made some progress in 5,000 years... guess not.
53 SlamClick : I have no idea what you are talking about. That statement is in no way a response to the question I asked. Nothing to do with innocents being execute
54 Dougloid : It was a response to Doc's inclusion. I was too lazy to retrieve the original post. So chill out, Slammer. We're more or less on the same page here.
55 SlamClick : Okay, so I don't have to send you to Texas? You know, I agree the death penalty is terrible, barbaric, but let's not confuse cause and effect folks.
56 Dougloid : Sorry, fella. I don't travel outside of the United Yankee States of America.
57 Kappel : So which country would you like to compare the US legal system? Iran? Saudi Arabia? China? I can think of a few more. No european country carries out
58 Dougloid : Are you aware that fourteen states do not have the death penalty? Simply, we're more like 50 rather independent and contentious small republics, each
59 Kappel : Yes I am, and I applaud those states for that. Is't that at the heart of democracy? People choose their representatives and they decide the laws. It
60 Baroque : Likewise, but Dougloid's stress on the independence and lack of concern about what happens "next door" I do find worrying. Especially when he also co
61 PC12Fan : Civil rights for somebody that's not going to be alive very long. Makes sense to me......
62 Dougloid : You're preaching to the choir, B. I don't much like what passes for justice in the Texican Republic, but I figure that it's the business of the citiz
63 MD11Engineer : This warning exists since at least 70 years (the oldest recording of this song I havwe in my collection comes from Leadbelly andwas recorded in the 1
64 SlamClick : Are you serious? You are saying that murder is the murderer's first crime? Their initial foray into the world of crime STARTS with murder? I think th
65 Baroque : Passing by the possibility that some (OTHER) choirs need a bit of preaching has Texas always been this way? Maybe when I visited I was just less obse
66 SlamClick : Oh no. Before the coup d'etat of November 1963 when Lyndon Johnson had President Kennedy killed they were almost a normal state. Since then they've d
67 Post contains links Dougloid : Huddie Ledbetter with his Stella twelve string. How about this, and it's all I remember from Lightnin' Hopkins Penitentiary Blues: You oughta been on
68 Post contains links BlackProjects : Hmm Old Fashioned MEDEVIL Justice would have Solved the Death Row problems real quick as there wouldnt be a Death Row. You got Convicted and Delt with
69 LTU932 : I'm also for the death penalty in sexual crimes of severe category (e.g. rape, rape-murder, child rape). Rape is many times worse than murder because
70 MD11Engineer : I don't agree. At the moment we don't know enough about how the brain works, but from what I've read, normal thinking switches off in sexually arouse
71 Dougloid : Glad we could be of service. Please call again.
72 Post contains links MD11Engineer : Seriously, thanks for what your grandparents did to help us to get rid of the Nazis. Our ancestors should have done it themselves, but either didn't
73 Post contains images Kappel : Crime of passion ring a bell? Many of these are by people with no criminal history. What kind of logic is that? I clearly stated that anybody who com
74 Mir : Someone's past criminal history is irrelevant. The only relevant question is "did they commit this murder?" Or are you saying that it's ok to execute
75 Baroque : I hate to mention this Mir, but it appears that this concern (major as it is to thee and me) is not shared by some a.net members, or so it seems from
76 MD11Engineer : This is exactly the situation you had in China until recently, where one provincial judge ( mostly a former army officer with no training in law, but
77 SlamClick : That is changing the subject. The guy in the o/p isn't that kind of killer. He planned. He stalked. He tormented his victims. It was not spur-of-the-
78 Kappel : No it's not. You asked for examples of people on death row that have no prior criminal history. I offered it as an example. IIRC, many of these mass
79 Dougloid : I think that your understanding of due process as shaped by various international treaties isn't worth a plugged nickel in a Texas courtroom, my frie
80 SlamClick : Actually I believe that I asked for people without a prior criminal history of escalating violence who were wrongfully convicted and executed. As I s
81 Baroque : That might be a bit Delphic for this reader. Are you just referring to the cavalier attitude to treaties of due process in a broader sense? BTW Slamc
82 Kappel : You are right of course. I meant serial killers. It's indeed the difference between Ted Bundy and Ratko Mladic. Indeed. Treaties do sometimes work, b
83 AirPortugal310 : Cant..MA is run buy a bunch of sissies that dont believe in capital punishment Third
84 SlamClick : Well, I almost agree with that. I'd say most forensic protocols are "for a reason" but most criminal law is to increase billable hours. But then I mi
85 Baroque : Fair enough to draw a distinction probably. It does appear that dragging forensic departments into normal standard scientific practices is not always
86 DocLightning : I have interviewed a death row inmate. My conclusion is different. My conclusion is that this was a man who had absolutely no concept of right and wr
87 SlamClick : How many times does this have to be stated? It seems stunningly simple. It keeps them from killing AGAIN That is the point the proponents try to make
88 DocLightning : And if they never killed in the first place?
89 Baroque : The thread seems irrevocably split between those who cannot fail to accept that argument and those who apparently do not understand it. Well aside fr
90 SlamClick : Come on doc, I expect better of a man of your education. What is this entire thread about. Honestly, be a man about this - if you have nothing to say
91 Baroque : As Ronnie would say, there you go again. When the death penalty is discussed, even if there is some agreement that any particular person is guilty, t
92 SlamClick : That is a lie and a slanderous one at that. For your statement to be true at least 50% + 1 of the persons executed in the US would have to be innocen
93 Baroque : Between English and stats you do seem to have problems. The death penalty is being more widely imposed than the person who is the subject of the curr
94 Dougloid : Are you willing to give specific examples-I mean, aside from Cook County Illinois?
95 Baroque : Australian examples have a bit less force due to our lack of enthusiasm for topping folk, but criticisms have arisen on that very point in enough cas
96 SlamClick : Okay then don't try to understand this yourself. Get an educated person to read it to you. Here goes: You said: In English that means that more of th
97 Baroque : It means exactly what it says. It is just that you need to be able to understand more than one idea at a given time. Idea 1. The penalty is being mor
98 SlamClick : Okay, I get what you meant now. It is a rather poor construction though. To make your meaning clear to people in a wider range of countries, cultures
99 Post contains links Dougloid : Not without a bunch of research that I do not have the time for this afternoon but I'll take it under advisement. The most well known operation is th
100 DocLightning : A Stanford Grad is taught to ask "what if?" Tell me, Slam, have you ever heard of someone on death row being exhonerated? You may be talking about th
101 SlamClick : Doc this is horrifying. So they taught you to ask "what if?" did you seriously ask what would happen if you did that? Did they also give you this gem
102 Kmh1956 : In that case, he will need to buy a ticket for an extra seat....
103 Post contains links Baroque : Thanks for the contributions. Most welcome. Agreed about the need for thinking over and above a flood of information. Even so, the issue of whether j
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