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User currently offlineKunoichi From Denmark, joined Jan 2007, 796 posts, RR: 15
Posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

Hey all.
Back in January 2007, I was the victim of a crime onboard a flight from SYD to LHR, just before landing for a stopover in BKK. Upon getting back onto the flight, I asked the f/a if the perpetrator would still be onboard the flight, and when she confirmed that he would, I told her the nature and specifics of what had happened, and she told me to talk to an f/a further down the aisle so I could be moved to another seat (as I was seated beside the perpetrator), I was moved, filled out a report and talked to the captain and the purser while the perpetrator was taken into custody upon arrival in London Heathrow.

I spent 12 hours with the police, giving them another report, and was then able to continue my journey home to Denmark. I didn't hear anything from the police, until about a month later where I got a letter from the police, telling me that they were unable to procecute, as the guy should've been taken into custody by Thai police as the crime technically happened in Thailand.
The guy got away with no punishment whatsoever but a formal caution. At the time, I was just happy to have it all over with by then, after having it occupy my head every second of the day for a month.

But now, after talking this through and through and through, with therapists, friends and family, and after I started coming to terms with it and seeing it all in a clearer light, I keep thinking that something more should - and could - have be done - this has pretty much destroyed one and a half year of my life, and ONE mistake made my the airline prevented the guy from getting actual punishment; They should've reported it to the Thai authorities instead of the English. I wish I was smart enough to realize this at the time, and I don't want to pin it on the airline, but for some reason, I thought they'd have some kind of policies for this, even if it's a rare case.

I have to admit that I really wish I could do something here, and I've started looking into the case with the help of Danish support groups as well as my family's lawyer, but none of them are too familiar with the British law system.

Does anybody know what my options are in regards to pursuing the case? I know I'd probably never get the guy procecuted, and I feel kind of bad for "going after the airline" (the staff was a huge support throughout the flight and while the guy was getting arrested after all - they were lovely people), I have trouble coming to terms with the fact that their mistake enabled the guy to walk away with no punishment for what he did, but one night in custody...

I won't go into details publically, and writing this is probably a huge mistake in regards to the case, but to be honest, I'm at wit's end here and I was hoping for some kind of help that doesn't require me to contact a lawyer overseas. I hope you can at least help a little, and if you need more details to do so, by all means, do send a PM and I'll try to elaborate.

Thanks.
-Janni

PS: I've only waited this long to open up to all this again is because it's taken me an immense amount of time to process all this - and the only reason I didn't report to the airline staff before re-embarking the plane was because I literally ran the h*ll off just to get as far away as possible and hid in a restroom in transit until the passengers continuing on to LHR were supposed to go onboard again. Don't ask me why - I don't know.

[Edited 2008-08-06 00:15:33]


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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1708 times:

Maybe this helps. I don't want to sign up for a free trial, so I couldn't really check what they are saying.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/...oc598447main%2CtocId~toc598447main

But allow me to tell you Janni, that sometimes it is better to find peace with the injustice rather than to hunt down justice and in the end need to acept that you achieved nothing.



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User currently offlineKunoichi From Denmark, joined Jan 2007, 796 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1678 times:



Quoting NoUFO (Reply 1):
Maybe this helps. I don't want to sign up for a free trial, so I couldn't really check what they are saying.

Thank you - for some reason, I was "selected to view" for free, so I'm reading as I'm writing this.  Smile Hopefully, I can find something.

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 1):
But allow me to tell you Janni, that sometimes it is better to find peace with the injustice rather than to hunt down justice and in the end need to acept that you achieved nothing.

I realize this, and I will not go completely out of my way to make something happen either - I just want to see if SOMETHING can be done - the case isn't that old after all, and had it only been a guy trying to snatch my wallet, I would've just let it go - but it's worse than that, and every specialist I've talked to have told me to see what I can do and if I can get closure in some form or another.



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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1667 times:



Quoting Kunoichi (Reply 2):
and had it only been a guy trying to snatch my wallet, I would've just let it go - but it's worse than that, and every specialist I've talked to have told me to see what I can do and if I can get closure in some form or another.

I see.
While I have absolutely no clue when it comes to British law, I wonder why police didn't ask the Taiwanese authorities for mutual assistance. If the offender is still in Britain, that could be an idea.



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User currently offlineKunoichi From Denmark, joined Jan 2007, 796 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1647 times:



Quoting NoUFO (Reply 3):
While I have absolutely no clue when it comes to British law, I wonder why police didn't ask the Taiwanese authorities for mutual assistance. If the offender is still in Britain, that could be an idea.

I'm not sure, but the offender was of french nationality and went home to France right after he was released.  Sad



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User currently offlineFerengi80 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1550 times:
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I am no expert on British law, but I would have thought that if the crime was of a serious nature, then the Police at Heathrow should have informed their counterparts in Thailand and arranged for the perpetrator to be extradited to Thailand to stand trial.

There is a telephone number you can contact anonymously to report crime here in the UK, they may be able to provide information on where you need to go to proceed with your case. From outside the UK you need to call 0044 800 555 111. I don't know if they will be able to help, but its worth a try.

Hope this helps.

Jason



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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1544 times:

I'm not an expert on international law as it applies to passengers in international travel but the police may be right about the sovereignty aspect of it...I assume it was Thai Airways?

As a practical matter, the guy's no longer in their hands as you say. I think the best you can do is make an appointment with the Thai embassy and the French embassy discuss your concerns with them. One thig's for sure, if I'm reading between the lines correctly here, this guy has done it before and what happened to you was pretty damned brazen. You might also want to contact interpol and the French authorities and see what you can do about making his life a little more miserable and see what you can do about getting him on paper with interpol.

Best of luck in your recovery.


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