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War In Georgia: Influence On US Election  
User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

Will the war in Georgia help McCain win the US presidential election ?
I know usually foreign affairs have no real influence on US election but McCain might gain some profit from this.


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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13078 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2028 times:

McCain has said that he doesn't trust Putin who is still a major influence in Russian politics, and taking a line the opposite of GWB. In general I think he takes a very careful and suspect view of Russia, considering their serious corruption, control by the tiny numbers of the rich, their investments in the middle east especially as to nuclear materials and processing equipment that could end up as terror weapons. Obama has been vague or really has said little as to Russia. That may help McCain, but there are many more important issues, especially the domestic economy that will make the difference in who the voters choose.

User currently offlinePSA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

This might affect any plans Obama might have had to hold a political
rally in Red Square...From Russia With Love.

Actually, this affair might be over well in advance of the Novemebr election.
However, if it isn't, then it would be a serious foreign affair issue that would
probably influence some voters in November. And probably in McCain's favor.



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1991 times:



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
I know usually foreign affairs have no real influence on US election

Who told you that?


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1985 times:

Georgia is pretty much a red state.


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1975 times:



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Will the war in Georgia help McCain win the US presidential election ?

No, this "war" will be over before the Olympics are.


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1955 times:



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):
Who told you that?

Usually domestic issues are playing a higher role in US elections as foreign politics.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1917 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 6):
Usually domestic issues are playing a higher role in US elections as foreign politics.

So is Iraq the pink elephant in the room no one likes to talk about?  Wink



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User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Given that most Americans think Georgia is a US state I doubt this will help McCain at all. You'd be lucky if 25% of Americans even know who the Presidents of each respective country are.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 7):
So is Iraq the pink elephant in the room no one likes to talk about? Wink

Pretty neglected by the so called Media these days, given that US involvement is winding down, regardless of whether Obama or McCain gets elected..The Iraqis are feeling very confident about their abilities and want the US out. I am sure the US will maintain some sort of presence, but things are drawing to a close there.


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1864 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 7):
So is Iraq the pink elephant in the room no one likes to talk about?  

Iraq is also a domestic issue regarding the US military is involved, Georgia (not the US state) and Russia don't affect the average American as much except that Oil and Gas are maybe getting more expensive.



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User currently offlineMaidensgator From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1831 times:



Quoting Columba (Reply 9):
Georgia (not the US state) and Russia don't affect the average American as much except that Oil and Gas are maybe getting more expensive.

Oil by the barrel is dropping, so far down over $2 again today, and gas went down ten cents a gallon over the weekend... $3.60 a gallon here; how much is it in Germany?



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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 8):
Given that most Americans think Georgia is a US state

It isn't?  Confused

[Edited 2008-08-11 11:04:12]


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User currently offlineJpax From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1815 times:



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 11):
It isn't? Confused

Russia bombed our country? Why aren't we at war?!  Confused

Damn you, Bush, it's all your fault!  banghead 


User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1815 times:



Quoting Confuscius (Reply 11):
Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 8):
Given that most Americans think Georgia is a US state

It isn't? Confused

Should have said, "Is JUST a US State" rather than a country near Russia


User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1806 times:



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Will the war in Georgia help McCain win the US presidential election ?
I know usually foreign affairs have no real influence on US election but McCain might gain some profit from this.

90%-95% of the population does not care one iota regarding a war between Georgia & Russia. Most people are tired of the foreign entaglements we are finding ourselves in, and the economy will likely drive most of the election decisions.

There is a saying that "all politics is local", and to some extent that is true, especially as it relates to areas that impact voters' wallets.

Insofar as this war leads to higher gas prices, it will just increase calls for more energy independence.

I don't see this as benefiting either politician (unless the US does something really dumb and we get into the middle of it). Then, if it is Bush leading us into yet another entanglement, it would actually be McCain that could suffer since his foreign policy is pretty aligned with Bush's.


User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2754 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1759 times:



Quoting Columba (Thread starter):
Will the war in Georgia help McCain win the US presidential election ?

I think it's far too early to say. If it drags on, it could certainly become an issue in the election, but unless the fighting spreads it won't make much of an impact on the election here. Obama also has a few people on the rumored short list for VP that are very experienced in foreign affairs, which could help blunt any perceived weakness Obama may have in that area.



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1736 times:



Quoting Maidensgator (Reply 10):
$3.60 a gallon here; how much is it in Germany?

Today the gas price is 1, 42 Euro per Liter.
1 gal = 3.785 L
One Dollar is 1.49579 Euro

Do the math ?

Much more as in the US !!!

Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 15):
I think it's far too early to say. If it drags on, it could certainly become an issue in the election, but unless the fighting spreads it won't make much of an impact on the election here. Obama also has a few people on the rumored short list for VP that are very experienced in foreign affairs, which could help blunt any perceived weakness Obama may have in that area.

Well McCain has warned a lot from Russia and used a lot of" cold war language" so this conflict can convince people that McCain was right with his opinion about Russia and will be a better leader.



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User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1718 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1726 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 8):
You'd be lucky if 25% of Americans even know who the Presidents of each respective country are.

You'd be amazingly lucky indeed. I'd be willing to bet that number is considerably less than 1%



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4879 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (6 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1706 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 7):
So is Iraq the pink elephant in the room no one likes to talk about?

Didn't you know Iraq is the 51st state, so it's now a domestic problem  Wink

YOWza



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User currently offlineJM017 From Jamaica, joined Jun 2002, 1227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1660 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 13):

Should have said, "Is JUST a US State" rather than a country near Russia

Isn't Delta's largest hub there? Kinda risky having their largest hub so near to Russia, isn't it?  Smile.



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User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1645 times:



Quoting JM017 (Reply 19):
Isn't Delta's largest hub there? Kinda risky having their largest hub so near to Russia, isn't it?

Well I read that the US military just transported Georgian troops back home...ATL I suppose, right? One hell of a trip to go from Iraq to ATL then on to Russia for a war.

Maybe they bought their tickets through Priceline...


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 21, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

Confuscius:

General Sherman was the last to invade Georgia.  Smile

Depends on how long this war in Georgia last. If it's over before the Olympics are over, then it would have zero impact.
If it goes on longer, it could help McCain.



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3007 posts, RR: 27
Reply 22, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1644 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
Depends on how long this war in Georgia last. If it's over before the Olympics are over, then it would have zero impact.

Officially the war is already over.

Aeroflot777

P.S. How's it going Larry?


User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 23, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1642 times:



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 22):
Officially the war is already over.

Georgia is saying the opposite.

Things are going well Aeroflot777.
Let's go grab a beer.  Cool



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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3853 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (6 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1618 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
General Sherman was the last to invade Georgia.

IIRC, Freaknik was the last to invade Georgia.



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25 Post contains links Seb146 : Depends. McCain's chief foreign advisor, Randy Scheunemann, was working for Georgia while working for the campaign. He also lobbied for Georgian inte
26 Post contains links Sv7887 : Kinda like keeping company with convicted felons like Tony Rezko and Detriot's soon to be convict mayor? How about getting more money from Exxon than
27 Confuscius : Perhaps she feels better now that John allegedly called Cindy a word that ryhmes with runt.
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