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What Do You Think Of Vanga's Predictions?  
User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3006 posts, RR: 27
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9208 times:

I recently once again came across Baba Vanga and her predictions for the future. Even though i am not a believer of these kinds of things, some of her predictions made me think twice.
For those of you who don't know about her she was a blind woman living in Bulgaria. She predicted quite a few major events before they happened and made predictions for thousands of years to come. Previous predictions include :

""“At the turn of the century, in August of 1999 or 2000, Kursk will be covered with water, and the whole world will be weeping over it.” (1980)


- The prediction did not make any sense back then. Sadly, twenty years on, it did make a lot of sense. A Russian nuclear submarine sunk in an accident in August of 2000. The submarine was named Kursk. Kursk - the city, could by no means have been covered with water (probably that’s why her prediction seemed so unrealistic at first).


“Horror, horror! The American brethren will fall after being attacked by the steel birds. The wolves will be howling in a bush, and innocent blood will be gushing.” (1989)


- Happened as predicted. The World Trade Center Towers in New York collapsed following terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001 . The WTC Towers were dubbed “Twins” or “Brothers.” The terrorists drove passenger planes –“the steel birds”- into the towers. “The bush” obviously relates to the surname of the current U.S. president. ""

Future predictions are as follows, translated from Russian:

2008 - Assassination attempts on four heads of states. Conflict in Indonesia. That becomes one of the causes for the start of WWIII.
2010 - The start of WWIII. The war will begin in November of 2010 and will end in October of 2014. Will start as a normal war, then will include usage of nuclear and chemical weapons.
2011 - Due to the radioactive showers in Northern Hemisphere - no animals or plants will be left. Muslims will begin chemical war against Europeans who are still alive.
2014 - Most of the people in this world will have skin cancer and skin related diseases. (as a result of chemical wars).
2016 - Europe is almost empty
2018 - China becomes the new world power.
2023 - Earth’s orbit will change slightly
2025 - Europe is still barely populated
2028 - Development of a new energy source. (Probably controller thermonuclear reaction) Hunger slowly stops being a problem. Piloted spaceship to Venus deploys.
2033 - Polar ice caps melt. World ocean levels rise.
2043 - World economy is prosperous. Muslims are running Europe.
2046 - Any organs can be mass produced. Exchange of body organs becomes the favorite method of treatment.
2066 - During it’s attack on Rome (which is under control of the Muslims) U.S.A. uses a new method of weapons - has to do with climate change. Sharp freezing.
2076 - No class society (communism)
2084 - The rebirth of the nature.
2088 - New disease. - People are getting old in few seconds.
2097 - This disease is cured.
2100 - Man made Sun is lighting up the dark side of the planet Earth.
2111 - People become robots.
2123 - Wars between small countries. Big countries don’t get evolved.
2125 - In Hungry the signals from Space are received. (People will be reminded of Vanga again)
2130 - Colonies under water (advices from aliens)
2154 - Animals become half-humans.
2167 - New religion
2170 - Big drought.
2183 - Collony on Mars becomes nuclear nation and is asking for independence from the Earth. (same way as U.S. did from England)
2187 - Successfully two volcano eruptions are stopped.
2195 - Sea colonies are fully supplied with energy and food.
2196 - Full mixture between Asians and Europeans.
2201 - Thermonuclear reactions on the Sun slow down. Temperatures Drop.
2221 - In the search of Alien life, human beings engage with something very freighting.
2256 - Spaceship brings a freighting new disease into Earth.
2262 - Orbits of planets start to change progressively. Mars is undera threat of being hit by a comet.
2271 - Physic properties are calculated over, since they changed.
2273 - Mix of yellow, white, and black race. New race.
2279 - Energy out of nothing (probably from vacuum or black holes)
2288 - Travel through time. New contacts with the aliens.
2291 - Sun cools. Attempts to fire it up again are taken.
2296 - Bright flashes on the Sun. Force of gravity changes. Old space stations and satellites begin to fall
2299 - In France, there is a partisan uprising against Islam.
2302 - New important new laws and mysteries about the universe are uncovered.
2304 - The mystery of the Moon is uncovered.
2341 - Something frightening is closing in with Earth from the space.
2354 - Accident on one of the man made suns, will result in drought.
2371 - Mighty hunger.
2378 - New and fast growing race.
2480 - Two man made suns will collide. Earth is in the dark.
3005 - War on Mars. Trajectory of planets changes.
3010 - Comet will ram into the Moon. Around Earth there is a belt of rocks and dust.
3797 - By this time, everything living on Earth dies. But humans are able to put in the essentials for the beginning of a new life in a new star system.
P.S. She also predicted;
“Everything will melt away like ice yet the glory of Vladimir , the glory of Russia are the only things that will remain. Russia will not only survive, it will dominate the world.”(1979)
- The prediction was made in Soviet times when just a few people were using the term
“Russia”. It remains to be seen which Vladimir Vanga had referred to. There are three real candidates: The Prince Vladimir, Vladimir Lenin, the Vladimir Putin, or the future one…






I for one would hate these things come true. One thing that is a little reassuring is that not all of her predicts come true, but a good 65% do. I know quite a few people personally who have gone to her before she died, and so far their lives have gone exactly the way Vanga has predicted, even to the point where they know the year and reason for their death.


Aeroflot777

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User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1366 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9198 times:

Some awesome sci-fi novels could be written with the stuff she came up with. I'm planning to leave Europe by 2018, maybe I should leave a bit earlier  Smile

I wonder how exactly she phrased her predictuions. If you look at Nostradamus, his productions were often very vague and could be explained in many ways...



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9185 times:

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2010 - The start of WWIII. The war will begin in November of 2010 and will end in October of 2014. Will start as a normal war, then will include usage of nuclear and chemical weapons.
2011 - Due to the radioactive showers in Northern Hemisphere - no animals or plants will be left. Muslims will begin chemical war against Europeans who are still alive.
2014 - Most of the people in this world will have skin cancer and skin related diseases. (as a result of chemical wars).
2016 - Europe is almost empty



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2028 - Development of a new energy source. (Probably controller thermonuclear reaction) Hunger slowly stops being a problem. Piloted spaceship to Venus deploys.

So we go from just about being extinct due to nuclear/chemical warfare to a space mission to Venus within a span of 14 years?  

I find predictions just like horoscopes and the Bible, that they are so well written that one can make almost any sort of interpretation of relevance, but I don't find them in any means accurate. Just a way of the human mind playing tricks on us.

[Edited 2008-08-18 12:50:07]


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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6573 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9182 times:
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How come predictions are always dire? They are never hopeful predictions.

They read like they were written by Dick Cheney... chills...



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6573 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9166 times:
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Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2088 - New disease. - People are getting old in few seconds.
2097 - This disease is cured.

Few seconds? really.. you would think that in 9 years everyone would be dead

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2111 - People become robots.

WTF?



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9155 times:



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2010 - The start of WWIII. The war will begin in November of 2010 and will end in October of 2014. Will start as a normal war, then will include usage of nuclear and chemical weapons.

One question, will this affect the 2010 Winter Games in Vancouver, or is it safe to buy tickets?

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2033 - Polar ice caps melt. World ocean levels rise.

I was under the impression that polar ice caps melting can't make the ocean levels rise due to the amount of water the ice displaces in the first place?

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2011 - Due to the radioactive showers in Northern Hemisphere - no animals or plants will be left.



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2066 - During it's attack on Rome (which is under control of the Muslims) U.S.A. uses a new method of weapons - has to do with climate change. Sharp freezing.

So, again the US goes from being almost enilated to having climate changing weapons within 55 years?

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2273 - Mix of yellow, white, and black race. New race.

Brown?

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2304 - The mystery of the Moon is uncovered.

It really is made of green cheese! Big grin



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9145 times:

Vanga, whoever he/she is, isn't exactly an optimist is he/she !


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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9135 times:



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 5):
I was under the impression that polar ice caps melting can't make the ocean levels rise due to the amount of water the ice displaces in the first place?

true for the arctic, not true for the antarctic.... the latter is actually a landmass...

and, to veer even more offtopic, if one were really conspiracy-happy, there might achtually be people interested in getting antarctica ice-free... it is believed that there are enourmous amounts of natural and/or mineral resources buried under it.... (disclaimer: I don't really believe that, but it's interesting to think about it...)



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3006 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9124 times:

The thing that sort of bothers me is that many predictions did come true. If she was pulling them out randomly, I would think it's bogus, but hey, some things she said came out just like she had predicted.

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 5):
So, again the US goes from being almost enilated to having climate changing weapons within 55 years?

As pointed by many throughout history, not everything she says comes true. So some predictions might overlap. The one about the Twin Towers and the Kursk submarine are just two major examples that I picked out cause they sent chills up my spine.



Aeroflot777


User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9115 times:

well, I googled a little...

interestingly enough, the only two predictions that always are brought up when talking about what has come true are the Kursk and the Twin Towers example... so you are sure those are just "two major examples" you picked out?

Furthermore, there seem to have been a number of prophecies about the years from 2000 up to now... but you can't find them on the net any more... obviously, those have not come true (things about an alien landing on earth in 2005 and being all over the news and stuff like that) - so it seems there are people who always manage the prediction lists such that they only contain stuff in the future...

thirdly, it appears that the list of predictions you posted above is actually not from Baba Vanga, but from a guy who wrote a book about her in the 90s to make some money... this would also the explain the striking similarity of many predictions to the ones of Nostradamus!



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9110 times:



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2088 - New disease. - People are getting old in few seconds.

hahah Big grin:D

Further to my comments above, there are some 'predictions' that warrant comment but are too policitcally insensitive to do so on !



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User currently offlineGAIsweetGAI From Norway, joined Jul 2006, 933 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9089 times:

Let's see...

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2076 - No class society (communism)

More trouble, or will it be successful this time?

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2100 - Man made Sun is lighting up the dark side of the planet Earth.

But we need the Darkness... see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightfall_(Asimov_short_story)

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2111 - People become robots.

Where do I sign up?

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2154 - Animals become half-humans.

Hmmm... How are these terms defined?

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2187 - Successfully two volcano eruptions are stopped.

I take it this woman never tried to flatten (any better word?) a water bottle with the cap still on... Danger ahead!

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2023 - Earth’s orbit will change slightly



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2262 - Orbits of planets start to change progressively.



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2296 - Bright flashes on the Sun. Force of gravity changes. Old space stations and satellites begin to fall

How? A whole new planet? (Or is it those man-made suns?) And aren't the laws of physics independent from time?

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2201 - Thermonuclear reactions on the Sun slow down. Temperatures Drop.



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2291 - Sun cools. Attempts to fire it up again are taken.

I thought this wouldn't happen for a few million years...

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2279 - Energy out of nothing (probably from vacuum or black holes)

Now that would be nice! BTW black holes aren't nothing - they're matter in a very condensed form. (from what I've gathered)

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2288 - Travel through time.

Bad idea!!!

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2341 - Something frightening is closing in with Earth from the space.

There's always something frightening closing in w/ the Earth... Right now it's Apophis. (unless I got the name wrong)

Just a few "scientific" discrepancies I noted.  Smile

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2299 - In France, there is a partisan uprising against Islam.

Where else? Big grin



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3006 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9085 times:



Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 9):
interestingly enough, the only two predictions that always are brought up when talking about what has come true are the Kursk and the Twin Towers example... so you are sure those are just "two major examples" you picked out?

Those are the one's I could find on the net so you guys could relate to them. I know some people personally that have gone to see her.

I'm not advocating her at all. I don't really even believe it. I just wanted to see what you guys think.


User currently offlineAcheron From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1596 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9083 times:

Heck, those predictions seem even more grim than Nostradamus' predictions.

Obviously, and without being a future teller, I can say we are going to screw ourselves up big time with or without a war, but not anytime soon.  Silly


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9041 times:

It all doesn't matter anyways, 2012 is the end of the world anyways .... Big grin


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User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1366 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8997 times:



Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 11):

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Thread starter):
2299 - In France, there is a partisan uprising against Islam.

Where else? Big grin

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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3872 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8995 times:



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 2):
So we go from just about being extinct due to nuclear/chemical warfare to a space mission to Venus within a span of 14 years?

Her predictions indicate only the northern hemisphere is destroyed...

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 5):

I was under the impression that polar ice caps melting can't make the ocean levels rise due to the amount of water the ice displaces in the first place?

Much of the ice at the southern polar cap is on land.

Quoting GAIsweetGAI (Reply 11):

I thought this wouldn't happen for a few million years...

The Sun could potentially be an extreme length variable star, and it could undergo a rapid cooling period.


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 36
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8964 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 16):
Her predictions indicate only the northern hemisphere is destroyed...

As I said," we go from just about (didn't say all) extinct". Besides, if the northern hemisphere is destroyed do you honestly think those left in the southern hemisphere would have nothing better to do then develop a space program?

Quoting Moo (Reply 16):
Much of the ice at the southern polar cap is on land.

Its already been pointed out, thanks ... Big grin

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 8):
The one about the Twin Towers and the Kursk submarine are just two major examples that I picked out cause they sent chills up my spine.

Like I said earlier, its all how one interprets the prediciton/prohpecy before a certain event happens. Most of the time, people try to take a prediction and fit it towards an event that already happened.



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3006 posts, RR: 27
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8956 times:



Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 17):
Like I said earlier, its all how one interprets the prediciton/prohpecy before a certain event happens. Most of the time, people try to take a prediction and fit it towards an event that already happened.

Good point. Agreed.

Aeroflot777


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