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Should The Drinking Age Be Lowered In The US?  
User currently offlineQFA380 From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 2084 posts, RR: 1
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4542 times:

I found this article on digg today, about a large number of college presidents who want to have the drinking age lowered to 18.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...lege-drinkingaug19,0,7039288.story

They say it will lower binge drinking rates among students.

I believe they are right, In Australia, I see 15, 16, 17 year olds who think they couldn't live without going and getting blind drunk every Friday and Saturday. Once they hit 18 drinking just becomes a novelty and they don't seem to drink much at all.

The idea of the people saying that drinking fatalities in the affected ages will go up I believe it wrong. If a 19 or 20 year old wants alcohol they can get it, they can still get drunk and drive. Making actions that help reduce the number of kids geting drunk, using simple logic then less kids will be driving while drunk.

What say you, are the college presidents right and the US in need of reform?

[Edited 2008-08-19 14:42:59]

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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

I think it should be lowered to 18 in the US or perhaps even to 16 for beer and wine but I didn't lose sleep over it. I don't drink that much even though I'm now over the legal age. The big argument about lowering the drinking age to 18 in the US is always "you can fight and die for your country at 18 but you can't buy a beer". In many ways, they're right. Some states have taken the initiative to lower the drinking age to 18 for members of the miliitary; I don't know if they've had any success.

The other argument to lower it is that it would cut down the binge drinking - another valid point. The drinking ages are lower in Europe and from what I've noticed, they don't have the same problems with the binge drinking that we have in the US. Also, lowering the drinking age would allow young adults to build up a better tolerance for alcohol at a younger age. For example, because I don't drink, I have almost no tolerance. It takes me forever to consume even 1 drink, and I've never had more than 2 drinks in one night. To be honest, I'm okay with keeping it that way.

In a nutshell, if they lower the drinking age, more power to 'em, but I didn't really care about having to wait till 21. Then again, I do know I'm in a minority here.


User currently offlineCasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4796 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4504 times:

Having been an RA in college, I have to say that this argument by the college presidents is a good one, and that there should be a national debate on it.

To me, if you are an adult, you be capable of all decisions of an adult. You can enter into legal contracts, hire employees, get married, get divorced, get drafted, smoke, vote, have your own mortgage, and many other items. However you can't drink.

This creates a bit of a problem for college administrators. How do you keep people from drinking that are underage, but have all of the above privelages? Actively monitoring those that are avoiding being monitored for Binge drinking is a problem. It is a bit like having to enforce abstinance on people fully capable of having sex.


As an RA the only times I found out about drunk residents is when they were so far gone, that they had been left out on the sidewalks too drunk to walk, or puking their brains out in the bathrooms. By the time I was there to help, it was time to transport them to a hospital.

MADD's argument in all of this is pointless. Thier argument is one based on Prohibition. If the legal age was 24, I bet rates would go down yet again.

They shouldn't care about the age of the drinker. Their concern is with people driving drunk, which is a very valid concern. However they are the ones that helped ramrod 21 into law. But 21 is kind of stupid as well.
Most 18 year old's live at home for a few months at least prior to leaving their parent's house. It would be better for them to be legal and drinking and have the guidance of parent's when they take those first few step's in drinking.

There will always be problematic and out of control drinkers, no matter what the age, but if 18 is old enough to be an adult, it should be old enough to drink legally.



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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4130 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4501 times:

I am for it too for the same reasons given above. Keeping it at 21 is archaic and just a symbol of Americas puritanical attitude about drinking. A person isn't going to be magically more responsible abuout drinking at age 21 than they are at 18. The attitude towards alcohol here, and the high drinking age definitley promote wild binging because it's something "forbidden." Many universities have already taken a "we won't punish what we don't see attitude" and it's probably helped a little bit.


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User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2847 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4497 times:
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I don't see why it shouldn't be lowered. Look most other countries are 18 as well. Plus this way on college campuses there would be less trouble with underage drinking. This means administrators don't have to worry about the students drinking and getting arrested. It makes it easier on cops and easier on everyone else.
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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3410 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4473 times:



Quoting CasInterest (Reply 2):
MADD's argument in all of this is pointless. Thier argument is one based on Prohibition. If the legal age was 24, I bet rates would go down yet again.

They shouldn't care about the age of the drinker. Their concern is with people driving drunk, which is a very valid concern. However they are the ones that helped ramrod 21 into law. But 21 is kind of stupid as well.
Most 18 year old's live at home for a few months at least prior to leaving their parent's house. It would be better for them to be legal and drinking and have the guidance of parent's when they take those first few step's in drinking.

MADD while founded on good intentions has become a Neo-prohibitionist and even the original founder stepped down from it because of their actions and lobbying to make alcohol an illegal narcotic.

As for the original question, yes to at least 19!!

19 which it is here in Ontario is too high with kids coming to university at 18 and having no idea how to handle alcohol is a bad idea. I'm 24 and still get drunk every now and then but no where near as bad as I have seen first year university students often do.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8691 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

Heck no. More accidents will occur and more people will DUI. Bad idea.

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User currently offlineAcey From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 1051 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4462 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 6):
Heck no. More accidents will occur and more people will DUI. Bad idea.

What about all the countries that have a lower drinking age than the US and actually have less instances of alcohol abuse?



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4464 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 6):
Heck no. More accidents will occur and more people will DUI. Bad idea.

What gives you that idea? A person at 21 who will drink and drive would have done it at 18 if it was legal for them to drink,besides its not like teenagers dont get DUI's now...



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User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

It should definitely be lowered. I remember my roommate coming back piss drunk a couple times during freshman year. We even had a few bottles of beer in the fridge time to time. The only reason so many young people drink so much is because it's forbidden fruit.


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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

I've always wondered how many citations the local cops in college towns issue every year for underage drinking? I actually lied to an Athens-Clarke County cop in January of 1996 so as not to get cited for underage drinking. One of the guys in the group I was with did admit to underage drinking, because he really had no other choice because it was his car and someone else was driving. The fine was something in the neighborhood of $85, which to the typical college student, that's a chunk of change even today.


Having the legal drinking age at 21 is not going to keep folks under the age of 21 from drinking. You'll always have bars that have little if any inclination to check the IDs of their patrons. I was a sophomore in college and there was a bar a few minutes from campus that on a pretty regular basis would serve a group of us in which one or two would be of legal drinking age. Every few months, they'd tighten up on checking IDs so we'd have to send one of our buddies that was of legal drinking age to the bar to get some of us beers (The bar was in a separate room in the place.), and we'd all usually end up in the pool room in the back because you could easily pass your drink off as a cast-off drink left back there.

If you've got friends that work at a bar or a restaurant that serves booze, you can easily get served. About six months before I turned 21, one of the guys in the group I hung out with had started working at a bar/restaurant near the house. We'd go in there and early on, we'd sit in his section and he'd serve us (A few of the guys that would go there with us were of age.). After going there a few times and getting to know the staff there (including the managers), it was no problem get served there at all. A few months later, I started working at a grocery store as a cashier and on my second day running a register by myself, he comes through my line with a couple of bottles of wine (He too was underage). Earlier in the shift, one of the supervisors got on to me for not carding someone so I was a little wary to try to return the favor to my friend at that time. I asked for ID (as one of the supervisors was nearby) and he gave the "I don't have it with me" and I said I couldn't sell it to him without ID. He got ticked off about me not giving him the same treatment he had extended to me and went and told the general manager of the bar that I was not 21. Several of my friends really gave it to him (including some that worked with him at the bar that also knew I wasn't 21 yet) because what he did was not cool (I had explained the situation to them the same day I got banned from the bar until I was 21.), as I had only been on the job a few days and that he should have waited until I had been there a few weeks before trying to come through my line as they really watch the new cashiers like a hawk the first few weeks. Had he just waited a week or two, I would have done it no problem.

I think the key when it comes to drinking is education. I know when I was a teenager, my mom and stepdad from time to time let me have a drink. I think some parents try to portray drinking as evil and that fact makes some kids when they get to college go completely overboard when they party.


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4432 times:



Quoting N867DA (Reply 9):
The only reason so many young people drink so much is because it's forbidden fruit.

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Now I didn't drink underage because I couldn't afford to get caught as a cadet in ROTC - one underage alcohol offense could have ruined my career but you've hit the nail on the head here.

If the drinking age was lower, (possibly even below 18) young people would first be exposed to it (legally) in their home and have better tolerance when they went off on their own.


Quoting Srbmod (Reply 10):

So often it depends on when and where you are. Truth is, around here in Daytona during Spring Break, you know a shit ton of underage drinking is going on down beach side. But from what I've seen, as long as you aren't driving, the cops just don't care. My friend said it was the same thing in Jacksonville during the "World's Largest Cocktail Party" - the UGA-UF game. She and her friends (underage at the time) were carrying a case of beer and the cop shouted to them "What are you doing carrying that beer?!?!" At first they were scared they were about to get busted but then the cop said "You guys should be drinking that....not carrying it."


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8691 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4427 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 8):

What gives you that idea?

Well, people will always find a way to drink regardless of the age.

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User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2847 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4427 times:
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Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 11):
"What are you doing carrying that beer?!?!" At first they were scared they were about to get busted but then the cop said "You guys should be drinking that....not carrying it."

Thats hilarious! I find that often the cops break the rules just as much as the rest of us. My uncle was a big time cop in his city and he said that he would only issue a citation if the person was crazy or driving (in that case arrest) It shows the cops don't really care a lot. And raising the age would be one less burden on their shoulders.
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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4424 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 11):
and have better tolerance

Idk about you, but 5'4, 110 pound girls are still gonna be cocked after 2 Bartles&James  Wink



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User currently offlineIpodguy7 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 389 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4422 times:

yes, i think the age should be lowered to 18 for drinking, 16 for smoking in America


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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4411 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 12):
Well, people will always find a way to drink regardless of the age.

Exactly. So that makes your statement of:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 6):
Heck no. More accidents will occur and more people will DUI. Bad idea.

Nonsense. You basically repeated my statement, thus contradicting yourself in the process. You say if 18 year olds could drink there would be more accidents. But you then go on to say that they'll drink regardless if its legal.

Quoting Acey (Reply 7):
What about all the countries that have a lower drinking age than the US and actually have less instances of alcohol abuse?

Well, thats the problem, kids are taught about alcohol at ayoung age and are taught responsibility. There is a reason why a 16 year olds can drink at a restaurant (with parents, is that really true, I read that in a UK guidebook once) as opposed to the nonsense here.



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User currently offlineVirgin747LGW From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4410 times:

speaking of cops attitude to drinking, I lived in the Orlando last summer and every party we held would be broken up by at least 3 cop cars, totally over the top reaction compared to back here in the UK where the police have never broken up any party i ve been to. I lived in a gated complex, maybe that explains it?

Considering there were reports of murders and drive bys every day shouldnt they reorganise their priorities?

[Edited 2008-08-19 16:27:29]

User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4404 times:



Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 13):
Thats hilarious! I find that often the cops break the rules just as much as the rest of us. My uncle was a big time cop in his city and he said that he would only issue a citation if the person was crazy or driving (in that case arrest) It shows the cops don't really care a lot. And raising the age would be one less burden on their shoulders.
Blue

I think it's because during the UGA-UF game, the cops know there's not enough room in the JAX City jails to place all the college kids drinking underage so why fight it? haha. It's true with a lot of things though, not just alcohol. For example, fireworks are illegal in Cincinnati, if not all of Ohio but around New Years and the 4th of July, the cops don't do anything if you're shooting off fireworks.

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 14):
Idk about you, but 5'4, 110 pound girls are still gonna be cocked after 2 Bartles&James

I'm 6'4, 165 lbs soaking wet. I'm not much better.  wink 


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4404 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 18):
I'm 6'4, 165 lbs soaking wet. I'm not much better.

Nancy  Wink



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8691 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4387 times:

Cadet, if we lowered the drinking age that would encourage younger people to drink. There positives to both and but against it for a good reason.

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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4387 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 16):

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 12):
Well, people will always find a way to drink regardless of the age.

Exactly. So that makes your statement of:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 6):
Heck no. More accidents will occur and more people will DUI. Bad idea.

Nonsense. You basically repeated my statement, thus contradicting yourself in the process.

Exactly. Completely refuted your point.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4388 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 20):
Cadet, if we lowered the drinking age that would encourage younger people to drink.

Doubtful. Do you think if they made smoking legal at 15 you'd see them lined up around the block?

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 20):
There positives to both and but against it for a good reason.




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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8691 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4377 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 22):
Do you think if they made smoking legal at 15 you'd see them lined up around the block?

Yes I agree on that one. They would be selling faster than we could produce if the marketing was done correctly.

Hunter



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4373 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 20):
if we lowered the drinking age that would encourage younger people to drink

Not really. Those who want to drink will do so regardless of the age limit in place at the time.

Lowering the legal age to 18 wouldn't really change a whole helluva lot in my opinion. Sure, it would eliminate some of the "forbidden fruit" aspect, but people are still gonna get blitzed just the same as they do now.


25 FlyDeltaJets87 : Of course it would but it would encourage them to drink more responsibly, especially by the time they got to the college age. If people are exposed t
26 Cadet57 : Once again. Wrong. Considering its illegal to target minors in tobacco ad's. Ever wonder why Joe Camel isnt around anymore?
27 WESTERN737800 : They should lower the drinking age to 18. It would cut down on the binge drinking and when people go to college they would be able to handle it better
28 MCOflyer : I have to ask you parents this: If we lowered the age to 18 and your kids were in high school at the time; what would you do if the dean called you at
29 StasisLAX : If we can send 18 year olds to war to possibly die for the U.S. government, we can let them drink. Like anyone who uses a mind-altering drug, you need
30 Cadet57 : I have to ask you parents this: If the drinking age were the same and your kids were in college at the time; what would you do if the hospital called
31 MaidensGator : Back in the day, they lowered the drinking age to 18 the same year I turned 18, and conveniently, they left it that way until I was way past 21. I don
32 AA7295 : Think of the TOURISM!!! So many young people here in Australia go to Europe/Canada before going to America because the legal age of drinking is 18 not
33 MCOflyer : If we lowered it to 18 it would benefit all of us in some way like maidensgator said but would more accidents happen, more parties on school nights, e
34 Cadet57 : So now its ok to lower it? What made you change your mind?
35 LTBEWR : The college Presidents are suggesting a discussion (along with other ideas) of ending the Federal law that came into affect in about 1984 where if sta
36 DeltaOwnsAll : lolll id agree with pretty much everything cadet has argued here...the us has major binge drinking issues and one of the strictest policies in the wo
37 Daleaholic : My opinion on the whole situation... The drinking age in the US should be reduced to 18. As was stated earlier in the thread, people will always drink
38 TSS : Agreed 100%! Drinking became a whole lot less fun once I was of legal drinking age simply because I was no longer "getting away with something" by ha
39 RJdxer : Well being enough to remember the last time the law was 18, in some states and not in others. I have to say if you are old enough to vote or serve you
40 MCOflyer : I am biased. Good and the bad with it. If this were to happen, I expect high schools to introduce breath testing equipment. Hunter
41 LTU932 : You're proposing a law similar to what we have in Germany (16 for beer and wine, 18 for spirits and anything else). I like it. Seriously, I also agre
42 StarAC17 : It's 19 in Ontario and when I was finishing high school it was a 5 year program and people with early birthdays like myself were 19 in the second ter
43 Vikkyvik : I think the drinking age should be lowered to 18. I actually disagree with that, only because it's a blanket statement. Obviously, alcohol is attract
44 FlyDeltaJets87 : That's where I got the idea - I was in Germany just over a month ago and my sister was excited she could have beer and wine having just recently turn
45 MCOflyer : Well a DUI at the age of 18 will put you in serious debt. More trouble than its worth but also more business for the lawyers and newspaper. In additi
46 Mir : That's one of the arguments, and yes it is absolutely ridiculous that you can be deemed responsible enough to serve your country and possibly lose yo
47 Cadet57 : A DUI at ANY age will screw you over financially. And what do newspapers have to do with a DUI?
48 MCOflyer : Well if High schoolers start getting DUI's there is going to be press involved doing interviews and reports on why this is happening. Hunter
49 LTU932 : While I'm not familiar with the law in other EU countries, I presume that maybe in Italy, Spain and France you could at least start drinking wine at
50 Bok269 : If the age were theoretically were to happen, nothing would change because the majority of high school students are under 18 anyway. You wouldn't hav
51 FlyDeltaJets87 : It's not the school's business if I were to choose to drink during the week, especially in my own damn home. As long as I'm sober in class and not dr
52 MCOflyer : It is if you're caught drunk and get sent to the deans office (i used to be the deans pet). What do you think they are going say to the students pare
53 Planesarecool : Of course the drinking age should be lowered. Having it at 21 simply says that Americans can't be mature enough to drink alcohol until they are well i
54 JRadier : Yep, I feel your pain living in Europe.... NOT! We have the same system as Germany (16/18 years) and the number of accidents because of alcohol abuse
55 Dreadnought : The problem lies not with the drinking age but with the driving age. As European experience shows, kids getting hammered every weekend is not a probl
56 RJdxer : Agreed. People also need to get out of the coddling mode. Accidents are going to happen and not everyone is going to make it to old age. You do your
57 NIKV69 : If you can fight for your country, vote for a president and drive a car I think you should be able to drink.
58 Seb146 : Exactly. Long, long ago, (when I was 22) I was dating a 19 year old. We went to YVR where the legal drinking age was 19. They didn't even card him wh
59 Daedaeg : Oh please don't do it. The bars and clubs are going to be overcrowded with teeny boppers. LOL
60 DocLightning : Which has nothing to do with whether or not it's legal. You mean to tell me that 18yo's don't drink now because it's illegal? The U.S. has the highes
61 Larshjort : In Denmark you can buy alcohol in shops when your 16 but at bars, resturants and festivals etc. you have to be 18 years old. IIRC there is no mnumum
62 Daedaeg : Are you sure about that? Doesn't France have a pretty high DUI rate? People like to throw out all kinds of stats to prove their point, but I'd like t
63 Cgnnrw : Lowering the drinking age to 18 or 19 will most likely never happen within the next 20-30 years. The state legislatures won't have the guts to do it.
64 LTU932 : Apart from that, European countries have a sufficient public transportation system, where it's not even necessary to drive or pay for a taxi. Hell, i
65 Cadet57 : Mines wednesday . The irony being that I've worked for a liquor distributor since I was 19. I could bust my ass all day hauling it into stores and ba
67 Mir : To be fair, most non-teens in the US aren't taught anything about how to drive safely, either. -Mir
68 StarAC17 : What age someone is to get into a bar is up to the bar's owner and there are plenty in Canada that do not allow people over 21 in because of the imma
69 MD11Engineer : Yearsago I hada Danish girlfriend. She told me that at student's parties in Denmark, the host would provide the food and non-alcoholic drinks and for
70 1stfl94 : Having worked in America at the age of 18/19 I found that the law was exceedingly easy to get around. People got away with using very bad fake IDs and
71 Seb146 : I read an interesting letter to the editor this morning in our newspaper. The writer suggested raising the age of adulthood (voting, gun ownership, j
72 Post contains images Myt332 : That's right. I remember buying you a few beers at MAN when you were 17 one Christmas. I tried to find a photo I took that day of you but all I could
73 Acho : I think the US drinking age is ridiculous. Recently I was in Austin and went to dinner with my parents, they didn't want to serve me a glass of wine (
74 BWilliams : Add my name to the list of those who support lowering the drinking age (not just because i just turned 18, either!). The thing is, college students, e
75 Slider : No matter what the legal age is, we have a serious cultural problem in the USA with regard to alcohol consumption. Changing the law won’t change tha
76 Delta767300ER : If you can go fight for your country at 18 then you should legally be able to drink. -Delta767300ER
77 Post contains links Slider : LMAO--compliments of The Onion. http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/college_presidents_rethinking
78 Pilotdude09 : Exactly! im making that decision at the moment to go back to the states or go to Europe/Asia where i can enjoy a drink and do some gambling. In Austr
79 Scottieprecord : To get a driver's license in Texas before you're 18, you have to complete Driver's Ed. I think the same idea should be applied to drinking: 18-21 year
80 DocLightning : Well, MADD has chimed in about how drunk driving deaths will go up. Yup. They will. Temporarily. Until the wonder of it all wears off. And then it wil
81 Par13del : Why 18??? If it is because 18 is the legal age, then the push for this from the univercity's side is probaly more about legal liability than anything
82 PPVRA : If they had the power, they would bring back alcohol prohibition yesterday.
83 LTU932 : Speaking of which, I believe in the legalisation of Marihuana, mostly because of its medicinal properties. One of its important effects: the munchies
84 JCS17 : That is completely true, although no one seems to really investigate MADD's true intentions when it comes to news stories about drinking. They've som
85 Sovietjet : I'm all for it. Most countries have it at 18, heck some even at 16. And even in those countries it is not that enforced. For example, in Bulgaria wher
86 Vikkyvik : I'd be interested to see your source for this. I'm not aware of anything that's more successful than AA and other similar programs.
87 Hywel : I visited the USAF base in Ramstein, Germany when I was 14. It was the week of Independence Day in July, so they were holding a massive party/festival
88 ACDC8 : Drinking laws in North America are such a crock. God forbid you have a beer any where other then a bar or your own four walls. British Columbia has so
89 Seb146 : Age of consent, voting, adulthood.... pretty much everything in the States comes at 18. While I do not smoke anything at all, I would also be for leg
90 Acho : Here in Mexico nightclubs are supposed to close the bar at 2 am, however because of the corruption the bar normally closes until the club is empty, s
91 Dougloid : ahem.....for my 7,000th post to a.net. We're reliably informed that something called the Amethyst Initiative has managed to sign up a number of colleg
92 Daedaeg : Well since 18-21 year olds don't vote in significant numbers, there's no incentive for Congress to change the law from the status quo. Old people issu
93 ACDC8 : Thats the problem here, last call is usually between 1:00 - 1:30, house lights go on at 2:00 and the bar is cleared within 10 minutes putting everyon
94 Dougloid : Yes. That's not nearly important as being able to go on a drunken spree without all those pesky public intox tickets. That's some real important shit
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