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Do They Give Out No 1, 2 And 3 In Olympics?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

Do they give out no 1, 2 and 3 in olympics? That is, China no 1, USA no 2, Russia no 3 like that?

I doubt it.

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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1748 times:



Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Do they give out no 1, 2 and 3 in olympics? That is, China no 1, USA no 2, Russia no 3 like that?

No, they don't. Even if they did, the top two spots would likely be swapped.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9216 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1742 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 1):
Even if they did, the top two spots would likely be swapped.

What do you mean?


User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3394 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1734 times:

The top 5 read as follows:

1. China: 51 gold, 21 silver, 28 bronze, 100 total
2. USA: 36 gold, 38 silver, 36 bronze, 110 total (not #1 as China has more gold)
3. Russia: 23 gold, 21 silver, 28 bronze, 72 total
4. UK: 19 gold, 13 silver, 15 bronze, 47 total
5. Germany: 16 gold, 10 silver, 15 bronze, 41 total



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1709 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 2):
What do you mean?



Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 3):
2. USA: 36 gold, 38 silver, 36 bronze, 110 total (not #1 as China has more gold)

See, that is where the real question lies. Sure, the Chinese won more gold, but that doesn't say as much about the strength of the TEAM, which is what a ranking of countries really speaks of. The breadth of sports practiced at the elite level in the US is unmatched anywhere in the world. That is also indicated by the fact that the Chinese won huge chunks of gold medals in certain events that they specialize in, particularly diving and their questionable (on the women's side) gymnastics program.



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User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1709 times:

I don't think you can take into account just the total number of medals. A gold medal has much more value then a silver or bronze...


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1695 times:



Quoting Bwest (Reply 5):
A gold medal has much more value then a silver or bronze...

Think about it this way. The difference between a gold, silver or bronze is often miniscule. Does Dara Torres loss by 1/100th of a second at the age of 41 have less value than a 24 year old Britta Steffen's gold? Is it more valuable to win 7 golds in diving and a bunch more in gymnastics, or does it mean something to win golds in almost all, if not every sport?



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User currently offlinePetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3394 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week ago) and read 1682 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
but that doesn't say as much about the strength of the TEAM

Total number of medals means nothing either. The US has dozens if not hundreds of sporters at the games. Other countries only have a handfull of players. If a country with 3 players wins 3 medals, then by your defintion they are better then the US. Yet, they will not show in the rankings.



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User currently offlineFlexo From St. Helena, joined Mar 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 months 1 week ago) and read 1668 times:



Quoting Petertenthije (Reply 7):
Total number of medals means nothing either. The US has dozens if not hundreds of sporters at the games

Obviously national rankings can't ever be fair as countries come in such different sizes. One attempt could be to divide the number of won medals by the country's population.

My guess would be that the UK would then be #1.


User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1380 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1648 times:



Quoting Flexo (Reply 8):

Obviously national rankings can't ever be fair as countries come in such different sizes. One attempt could be to divide the number of won medals by the country's population.

My guess would be that the UK would then be #1.

Australia has 1 medal for every 464.000 inhabitants  Smile

Great Britain 1 for every 1.297.000 inhabitants, Germany one for every 2 million...



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User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2170 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1595 times:



Quoting Bwest (Reply 9):

Great Britain 1 for every 1.297.000 inhabitants, Germany one for every 2 million...

Then Jamaica is the best country with one for every 245,000....  Smile


We should keep in mind that the Olympics aren't really a competition between nations, like a football world cup, but between individual athletes. Granted that not everybody sees it like that nowadays, and in particular the Chinese are proud of having "won" the games, but I think that's the original thought behind it. I always saw the medal count as some sort of informative overview rather than the end-all and be-all of the Olympic Games.



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