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User currently offlineZootrix From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Call it a silly question, but I am very curious. How do police perceive and treat gays; especially if they are a victim of persecution, harrassment, violence, hate-crimes, daily prejudices, etc. How seriously are they taken? (Apologies for any unwitting offence)

I am merely interested in the social dynamics and violation of civil rights in these scenarios.

Thanks,
zt

PS - Straight man here....

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User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

I think it depends on the country, police service, and individual police officers.

I mean Take where I work....For the most part things are great...Helll our partner assault was one of the first to treat same sex partner assault the same as straight partners. We have a LGBT liaison committee made up of community and police...The Police chair is an Inspector( two ranks down from Chief...) this committee has been in existence since 1994..

However it is not all rosy...We have a couple of officers in a whole lot of shit for the way that they treated a lesbian couple.


I think mostly it is the individual officers...


I take Pride this weekend...It was a OT paid duty......The officers there, the guys, spent a lot of time posing with all the gay men. And the women posed as much with the Lesbians. No complaints or disparaging remarks...However a few other officers and it could have soured a lot of people and relationships.

GS



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11678 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

I think it depends on where the officer is. I had a lot of trouble with an ex. He was very abusive and the police here were very good about the whole thing. I think if it had happened in Montana or Wyoming, we would not have gotten the same respect.


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User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1729 times:

Here Police forces do have LBGT liason officers and there is growing awareness on dealing with abuse, particularly within same sex relationships. You still get a few cases of officers being homophobic but at the same time there are a lot of gay and lesbian cops where I live.

User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week ago) and read 1706 times:

Didn't you know that all female cops are Lesbians.....at least that is what the bad guys keep calling us....like it is some all powerful insult....



GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1575 times:



Quoting Zootrix (Thread starter):
Call it a silly question,

Not a silly question at all.
Remember the Jefferey Dahmer case in Milwaukee?
Those Cops returned a victim to a vicious murderer. They didn't take the victim's calls seriously. They dismissed it as two gay guys having a silly lovers quarrel. In fact, the man was killing and eating people in his apartment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/s...al_killers/notorious/dahmer/2.html

http://www.time.com/time/2007/crimes/16.html



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5066 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1464 times:



Quoting Zootrix (Thread starter):
Call it a silly question, but I am very curious. How do police perceive and treat gays; especially if they are a victim of persecution, harrassment, violence, hate-crimes, daily prejudices, etc. How seriously are they taken? (Apologies for any unwitting offence)

I am merely interested in the social dynamics and violation of civil rights in these scenarios.

I have worked with several police officers, and have watched them approach gay individuals before. The officer reactions noticed were fair, and they were treated as any normal person would be treated. I have also watched their reactions torwards say transvestites and so on, and still they approached them as normal people. Sure there were a few laughs afterwards, but I think the consensus among most police agencies and police officers mindsets is, that gay people are just as human as non gay people. In fact, I think and would probably be interested to see, that you will get less violence and issues from the gay community when it comes to crimes.

But, keep in mind that you still have alot of old timer cops that have a mindset that is against gays. I really could not tell you how they approach these situations. With how the world has changed, and the importance of civil rights, I would hope that these old timers use equal rights approaches to someone that is gay. The good thing though is that police training and constant video cameras, may change the way officers react to anyones civil rights.

Great question by the way! Look where the world is today! Gay couples, potential African American presidents, and a world where one can express themselves a little more.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6109 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1375 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Those Cops returned a victim to a vicious murderer. They didn't take the victim's calls seriously. They dismissed it as two gay guys having a silly lovers quarrel. In fact, the man was killing and eating people in his apartment.

That was a lot of BS any way you look at it. First off The kid had no ID and was only 14. Regardless if the cops thought it was a lovers fight they should have checked out the kid's identity before returning releasing him. I would be suspicious of any naked person on the street.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 2):
think if it had happened in Montana or Wyoming, we would not have gotten the same respect.

You never know. A lot of good ole' boys look at the law as the law and if you break it you go to jail.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1369 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 7):
I would be suspicious of any naked person on the street.

Unless it's here in San Francisco. That is quite the norm here.  Smile



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User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

One of our neighbors is a state trooper. At a party a few months ago this subject came up. The trooper said "We are really forced to treat everyone the same. We can get our asses in big time trouble if we don't. Even if it is a 6'5" black drag queen in a Honda speeding up I-45 at 90mph because she's late for a drag show in Dallas".

User currently offlineAdam T. From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

I think it depends on the location as well, some of the more progressive and gay friendly cities I think have a pretty supportive gay police force. I know in Atlanta and San Francisco they have a special task force that looks out for the GLBT community in those cities, at least that's what i've been told. I'm sure there are similar task forces in other cities as well.

I actually looked into becoming a police officer, specifically with the police department in Charlotte, NC and Richmond, VA . Because of the fact that I am gay it was important to know exactly how gay police officers were treated. I got the sense that it wasn't a big deal, at least in those two cities, all they really cared about was whether you were willing to have their back in a rough situation.


User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1132 times:

They beat them with big sticks as they do black people...................... Big grin


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19807 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1063 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Unless it's here in San Francisco. That is quite the norm here.  

I was naked the first time I ever met Aeroflot777 (admittedly he had come to USF pool to see his old [and my current] swim coach and we happened on each-other in the locker room). But it was in SF. And I was naked.

Kinda embarassed, too...


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1062 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 12):
I was naked the first time I ever met Aeroflot777 (admittedly he had come to USF pool to see his old [and my current] swim coach and we happened on each-other in the locker room). But it was in SF. And I was naked.

Not sure if Aeroflot777 wants that information public.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19807 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1045 times:

Well he was clothed. And we were in a men's locker room. So, while funny as hell, it is no way inappropriate, illegal, or even ethically questionable.

User currently offlineVermeer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 447 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1016 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 14):
Well he was clothed. And we were in a men's locker room. So, while funny as hell, it is no way inappropriate, illegal, or even ethically questionable.

You are right but the setting and everything definitely makes the story much hotter  Big grin


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