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Cindy McCain: Onward Brave Faux First Lady!  
User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2562 posts, RR: 7
Posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Mea culpa, Cindy McCain.

....just when I think you're another bleach-blonde, Chanel-suited, leathery-skinned 2008 version of the ueber-Republican Stepford Wife, you throw a curve ball and jet across the world to that other Georgia ( a war zone!) and offer respite and words of comfort to several dozen refugees. No doubt bringing along an Anheuser-Busch CARE "package" or two, compliments of the Red, White and Blue.

...and all this while injured yourself and sporting a fashionable pink cast (..no painkillers, please!)

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/w...0826-1159-georgia-mccainswife.html

Cindy, you have carried many mantles in your life -- beer heiress, thief, addict, immoral homewrecker -- indeed, you're an entire Lifetime Network for Women Movie of the Week all rolled up into one.

Now...add one more title -- tireless globetrotter for peace and defender of American values. Just like the noble sort-of-reformed skank Diana, Princess of Wales was (um, except cross out that American part).

Godspeed, Cindy Hensley McCain....godspeed, fair first lady-in-training.





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User currently offlineRonglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

Ahhh, so you don't like her, eh?

User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2784 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2017 times:



Quoting Johnboy (Thread starter):
Just like the noble sort-of-reformed skank Diana, Princess of Wales

I'm sure someone is going to get offend over that, she was very respected by many, many people. . .


User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 984 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

Ok, so even though Cindy travelled half way around the world, that's a bad thing while Michelle Obama sits on The View gossiping??

hmmm....

I forgot that when you are a Republican, you are damned if you do, damned if you don't, liberals are always right, you are always wrong.



xx
User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29693 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2005 times:

Johnboy.

Is there a point, or are you just quoting the hate-speach that comes from the DNC's more zelous retarded supporters?



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User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1965 times:



Quoting Johnboy (Thread starter):
Cindy, you have carried many mantles in your life -- beer heiress, thief, addict, immoral homewrecker -- indeed, you're an entire Lifetime Network for Women Movie of the Week all rolled up into one.

Are you kidding? Mrs. McCain inherited her money, so? If the press is correct she actually is quite involved in running her business. As far as getting addicted to drugs, isn't that a rite of passage in the US these days? Britney, Lindsay, and even Mr. Obama's brief usage of drugs.

Homewrecking? Now this is an equal opportunity trait amongst Liberals and GOP'ers.

The woman has done a lot of charity work, so she isn't a complete flake. Actually I think the Diana analogy is quite telling, except Mrs. McCain isn't the stunning beauty that Princess Diana was.


User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8711 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

Johnboy, You can't aren't worthy to hold Cindy McCain's bags.

Cindy McCain founded the American Voluntary Medical Team (AVMT) 20 years ago, which provided medical teams (kinda like MASH units) to places like Iraq, Kuwait, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Bangladesh and Vietnam in case of wars or natural disasters. She personally led 55 such missions.

She is no stranger to dropping into a crisis area, and unlike most such visitors, she has a history of actually helping, rather than just taking the tour for photo-ops like a typical politician.



Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16934 posts, RR: 48
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

Is Cindy's name going to appear on the ballot? Yeah sure


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13254 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1884 times:
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Johnboy clearly wasn't "hiking" or "enjoying life" (as his profile says) when he wrote up this POS post...  sarcastic 


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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

Cindy McCain for all intents and purposes could have simply settled for a life like Paris Hilton. She was young , pretty ,rich and moving with Southern California / Arizona elite crowd. She could have done all the jet set movie star BS ... but she became a special education teacher. She did not want to work for her dad , so she became a teacher working with Special needs children.

I met her a couple of years ago at the Az School for the deaf and blind here in Tucson. She is one cool lady , and to this day much respected by the quiet volunteer's here in Az.

I would compare her in some ways with Princess Dianna , not the nobility part and the glamour. Comparisons to her efforts of charity and selfishness , you know things that really count.

I am not saying she is a saint , just seems to me to be a person who does care for the well-being of others.



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User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

The real point is that the right is always emphasizing "character", and whatever else she has going for her, Cindy Lou's "character" is still that of an adulterous, narcotic addicted, drug stealing tramp. She's not on the ballot, but she's not off the hook any more than Theresa Kerry was last time around. Speaking of "character", her husband's is lacking as well. He came home from Vietnam and found that, rather than the beauty queen he married, his first wife
was fat and crippled from a serious car accident. His reaction was to cheat on her extensively and take Cindy as his mistress for the final year of his first marriage. John and Cindy married one month after his divorce. Sorry, but that's really sleazy.

If the right wingers who insisted "character" was an important criterion for choosing the President in the past four elections were true to their word, rather than hypocritical, they would reject John and Cindy immediately for failing that test. Their behavior was just as tawdry and dishonorable as Bill Clinton's, but then he was a Democrat. Apparently, only Democrats can fail the test of "character" that right wingers emphasize so strongly.



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1822 times:



Quoting Dvk (Reply 10):
Apparently, only Democrats can fail the test of "character" that right wingers emphasize so strongly.

Who has failed the right winger test of character ? Kerry ? Gore ? Clinton ? Obama ? Who ?

The McCain's have never denied the issue , and we are not electing saints . I never did care WTF Bill Clinton did , but he put his finger in my face and said he did not do it. He is a Liar, thats all , and frankly is proving to be quite the A hole in this election as well.

Cindy McCain has had problems and experiences much like all of us have in our lives , they are humans.



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User currently offlineJohnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2562 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1768 times:



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 6):
Johnboy, You can't aren't worthy to hold Cindy McCain's bags.



Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8):
Johnboy clearly wasn't "hiking" or "enjoying life" (as his profile says) when he wrote up this POS post...

Tsk, tsk....i am wounded by your words.

Quoting USXguy (Reply 3):
Ok, so even though Cindy travelled half way around the world, that's a bad thing while Michelle Obama sits on The View gossiping??



User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8711 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1763 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 11):
Cindy McCain has had problems and experiences much like all of us have in our lives , they are humans.

Ah, but that is where the McCains fail. How can mere humans compare to the Messiah, sent to us by God (as Pelosi said last week) to heal the nation, turn back the waters et al.

A telling episode was last week's quasi-debate with Rick Warren. When Warren asked each to describe their worst personal failure, McCain said "the destruction of my first marriage", for which he took full responsibility. Obama mentioned his drug use, and blamed it on an attitude of "selfishness" - but then he immediately said that selfishness was pervasive throughout our society. He's not entirely wrong, but it sounded to me like, "Yeah, I did something wrong, but everyone was doing it!" Very lame.



Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3512 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1753 times:



Quoting USXguy (Reply 3):
I forgot that when you are a Republican, you are damned if you do, damned if you don't, liberals are always right, you are always wrong.

Ha. That's malarky -

Liberals are much more maligned than conservatives are.

Conversatives can pretty much do no wrong:

- Received mediocre or below average marks in school? No big deal W - you're an average joe!

- Became addicted to pain killers? That's ummm ... OK I guess ... we just won't talk about it, Rush.

- Cheated on your wife while riling against others' infidelity? You're still a winner Newty - just don't come forward until 10 years after the fact.

- Found Christianity later in life? Your story's remarkable, W.

- Married to an attractive, wealthy beverage heiress and can't count how many houses you own? We know how hard it is to remember which ones are condos, dwellings orinvestment properties, John.

- Avoided the Vietnam war through chummy draft board friends and a sweet appointment to an Air National Guard unit? No problem, Dick/W, you're real Patriots.

While for liberals it's like this:

- Harvard graduate? You'r a hoity toity elitist, Barack, not to mention out of touch with the common man!

- Vietnam veteran? You're full of it, Kerry, you enlisted for political purposes and then exaggurated what happened.

- Graduated from law school in the bottom 50% of your class? Biden - you're not smart enough to be vice president.

- Found Christianity later in life - We all know you're really a muslim, Barack.

- Married to an attractive, wealthy food heiress - You're a snobby elitist, Kerry.


... It's hardly a level playing field.



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1741 times:



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 13):
"the destruction of my first marriage

No, McCain said "the FAILURE of my first marriage". He did not say "destruction", and he did not take responsibility for it in any way. He said it as if it were something that just happened, and did not acknowledge that his adultery had anything to do with it.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 11):
He is a Liar, thats all

That's what you guys always try to say...that you only care because Clinton lied about Monica, but that's not the entire truth. It's old news now, but the fact of the hypocrisy in excusing McCain, and giving him much more credit for accepting responsibility than he really has acknowledged, is something that's not going to go away.



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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1704 times:



Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 13):
Ah, but that is where the McCains fail. How can mere humans compare to the Messiah, sent to us by God (as Pelosi said last week) to heal the nation, turn back the waters et al.



Quoting Planespotting (Reply 14):
Ah, but that is where the McCains fail. How can mere humans compare to the Messiah, sent to us by God (as Pelosi said last week) to heal the nation, turn back the waters et al.

Republicans should be the last one making light of Obama being "the one." Wasn't Reagan relegated to near God-like status by conservatives? And GW Bush was noted by so many Christian Leaders as being God sent to put Christianity back into the Government? I'm just saying, it's a bit hypocritical for Republicans to attack with the hero-worship angle.



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1702 times:



Quoting Dvk (Reply 15):
That's what you guys always try to say...

I didn't try to say it , I said it.

Really I am voting for McCain because he is saying that he wants to cut spending and lower taxes. He wants to cut programs that Sen Obama wants to triple in size. Personally I dont care what he did in his past , just like I dont care much about Obama's "character".( What little he shows that isnt cut from some script writer somewhere). I want less government and lower taxes ... period.

The fact that as a Admirals son, J.McCain could have taken a nice cushy job at Pearl instead of flying A-4's over Hanoi is just icing on the cake.


See ?



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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3512 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1691 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 17):
Really I am voting for McCain because he is saying that he wants to cut spending and lower taxes.

That's great - if I was running for president, would you vote for me if I said I wanted to grow money trees in everyone's yard?

McCain hasn't said a lick of how he actually plans to cut any spending; he's just running for president on the ultra-blowhard "small government, less taxes" mantra that doesn't produce any results but does motivate people to vote for candidates who say it.



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineDreadnought From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 8711 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1691 times:



Quoting Dvk (Reply 15):
No, McCain said "the FAILURE of my first marriage". He did not say "destruction",

Sorry, I was speaking from memory. But effectively it is the same.

Quoting Dvk (Reply 15):
and he did not take responsibility for it in any way. He said it as if it were something that just happened, and did not acknowledge that his adultery had anything to do with it.

The quote is below. The question was what was YOUR greatest moral failure. McCain recognizes clearly that the failure was his. He made no excuses either.

Q. WHAT'S BEEN YOUR

GREATEST MORAL FAILURE AND WHAT HAS BEEN THE -- WHAT DO

YOU THINK IS THE GREATEST MORAL FAILURE OF AMERICA?

A. MY GREATEST MORAL FAILING, AND I HAVE BEEN A

VERY IMPERFECT PERSON IS THE FAILURE OF MY FIRST

MARRIAGE. AND Irtysh-Avia (Kazakhstan)">IT'S MY GREATEST MORAL FAILURE.



Messing up in your life is hardly unusual. We all screw up sometimes. But if you admit your mistakes and face the consequences, most people will forgive you eventually.

But if you refuse to admit a mistake, or if you try to pass the blame on someone else, or otherwise try to whitewash it, it is the mark of a coward and a person of low moral character - someone whom you can't trust. This is why people got all on Clinton's back.

to quote the line from Josey Wales: "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining."

Now - I have to admit a mistake - Contrary to what I said before, Obama did not immediately turn around and say "everyone else does it too". Sorry for that.



Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos
User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1689 times:



Quoting Planespotting (Reply 18):
That's great - if I was running for president, would you vote for me if I said I wanted to grow money trees in everyone's yard?

McCain hasn't said a lick of how he actually plans to cut any spending; he's just running for president on the ultra-blowhard "small government, less taxes" mantra that doesn't produce any results but does motivate people to vote for candidates who say it.

You forget the other Repubican argument. When people bring up the booming economy under Bill Clinton, he was actually just a "Tax and spend Liberal" who's economic sucess was either a result of "luck" or "the result policies of the previous administration." If all else fails, and people bring up the record debt under this president, the response is "the president is generally not the most responsible for the economy," or "tell that to the Democrat congress" (who have only been in power 2 years).



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1687 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 17):
didn't try to say it , I said it.

That still doesn't make it the entire truth, but discussing it further won't change either of our views.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 17):
voting for McCain because he is saying that he wants to cut spending and lower taxes.

for the rich, just like W. Fat chance of cutting spending when McCain keeps us in Iraq indefinitely and keeps making threatening gestures toward Russia. Just look for us to keep hocking the USA to China and ballooning the national debt.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 17):
Obama's "character".( What little he shows that isnt cut from some script writer somewhere

You can do better than that.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 17):
The fact that as a Admirals son, J.McCain could have taken a nice cushy job at Pearl instead of flying A-4's over Hanoi is just icing on the cake.

Please! The son and grandson of Admirals, who got a dubious legacy appointment to Annapolis, graduated at the very bottom of his class, was always known as a hothead and hellraiser who didn't like to follow the rules. At the height of Vietnam, it would have been extremely difficult for him to take a cushy position, especially as the son of an Admiral. That would have reflected very badly on both his father and grandfather. Yes, it took courage for him to do what he did in Vietnam, but courage doesn't automatically equal character. Yes, McCain is a war hero, but that's where it stops. He is otherwise as sleazy as they get--calling Cindy a c*** and a trollope in public, talking in public about how she would win a wet t-shirt contest, etc. Now that he's pandering more and more to the right to try to win, he is even lying when he tries to cling to his obsolete claim of being a "maverick".

Wesley Clark was right. McCain is a war hero, but that doesn't mean he will be a good President. And he and Cindy are still sleazy.



I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information.
User currently offlineAcheron From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1529 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1658 times:



Quoting Johnboy (Thread starter):

Woah, that picture of McCain sure shows his age!.


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3512 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1658 times:



Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 20):
If all else fails, and people bring up the record debt under this president, the response is "the president is generally not the most responsible for the economy," or "tell that to the Democrat congress" (who have only been in power 2 years).

Ahh yes - the good skapegoat technique:

- Rack up the highest national debt in history? Don't worry W, it's the democrats fault.

Quoting Dvk (Reply 21):
Please! The son and grandson of Admirals, who got a dubious legacy appointment to Annapolis, graduated at the very bottom of his class, was always known as a hothead and hellraiser who didn't like to follow the rules.

Ah right - and this one too:

- Graduate at the bottom of your Academy class with more than 100 demerits every year? Heck John, you're a maverick!



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1643 times:



Quoting Dvk (Reply 21):
At the height of Vietnam, it would have been extremely difficult for him to take a cushy position, especially as the son of an Admiral. That would have reflected very badly on both his father and grandfather. Yes, it took courage for him to do what he did in Vietnam, but courage doesn't automatically equal character.

That didn't stop most people from dodging the draft or otherwise making use of their connections. If you recall McCain was offered early release in Vietnam but didn't take it. That shows character.

Admitting that he was at fault for his marriage's failure and then covering all of his ex's medical bills and giving her a very generous settlement also shows character.

Neither Cindy or John McCain is a saint. I think the smear attacks on Cindy aren't fair. She made a few mistakes, and given the state of America's so called moral fabric what's she's done is considered mainstream these days.

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 20):
When people bring up the booming economy under Bill Clinton, he was actually just a "Tax and spend Liberal" who's economic sucess was either a result of "luck" or "the result policies of the previous administration." If all else fails, and people bring up the record debt under this president, the response is "the president is generally not the most responsible for the economy

It two separate things really. The President isn't really responsible for the economy, the economy is lke riding a wave that can be influenced by legislation or the Federal Reserve's actions.There is a far more critical eye being given to Greenspan's tenure given the Housing Mess this country is in.

Now the National Debt IS something you can attribute to the President. President Bush and the recent GOP Congress spent money like a drunken sailor, and this is why the GOP lost and deservedly so.

I don't believe in entitlement programs so this is why I won't vote for Obama. I'm a big believer in personal responsibility and this is not something the Democrats believe in.


25 PSA727 : And Teresa Heinz Kerry wasn't "medicated"? Please! In fact, you could tell when she was giving a speech or an interview whether or not she was on the
26 Dvk : Prove it. I won't waste time waiting, because you can't. He hasn't admitted that he was at fault. He's just made a vague reference to regretting the
27 Post contains links Sv7887 : Riiiight... http://www.azcentral.com/news/specia...ticles/0301mccainbio-chapter5.html "Sound marriages can be hard to recover after great time and di
28 Continental : What mistake? That was no mistake.
29 StarAC17 : Adding to reply 14 as it relates to this campaign. If the surge is working as well as has been reported and Obama knows that from going there, its be
30 Seb146 : Selfishness is the same thing as "everyone is doing it?" That does not make sense. Barak did something wrong, he admitted to it and is clean now. Yes
31 Sv7887 : Right, and Sen Obama's massive public spending is really going to solve anything? Oh wait, Jimmy Carter's Windfall Profit Tax will save the day. Ummm
32 Dvk : And leave it to a right-winger to trivialize McCain's sleazy private life as "one failed marriage". "One failed marriage" characterized Reagan, and n
33 Sv7887 : Wow there you go again with the Generalizations... You said McCain never admitted fault, I showed a quote in which he did AND he called it his greate
34 Dvk : You pointed out exactly one. from an article so blatantly slanted to favor McCain that it's an obvious attempt to neutralize the sleaziness of what h
35 L-188 : If Theresa wasn't "medicated" she needed to be....what the hell was up with her hair!?!? On John McCain. I would point out that he and his first wife
36 Sv7887 : More like three.Count his stance on Iraq, Campaign Finance Reform, Immigration Reform and others too. You wrongly asserted McCain has not admitted fa
37 Dvk : I did, and your spin doesn't change that. It all comes back to what I said initially, political hypocrisy. If a Democratic candidate had all the pers
38 UH60FtRucker : Do you people hear yourselves!? It's just politics! In fact, it's not even politics... it's just bitching/complaining/defending/excusing issues about
39 Planespotting : Hey UH60 - glad to hear you're still alive and typing! Please note that in my posts, I said nothing inflammatory, in defense or against McCain's wife.
40 Slider : The voice of reason!!
41 Seb146 : Yeah.. right.. integrity, character, and temperament. Right. He is for "inhanced interrogation" even though he spent all those years in a POW camp en
42 AGM100 : Yep he may being lying , he may do just the opposite but I have to cast my vote for someone. The chances are very small that any programs will be cut
43 Mt99 : Hmm interesting point.. I guess his suffering would not count as much if he were at Guantanamo now.. interesting semantics
44 Baroque : Thanks UH60. For a moment I worried how the cameras had shown him to be not much taller than our little gnome, the Man of Steel. I do wonder, however
45 Planespotting : OK, so - you do realize you just invalidated any argument you've previously mentioned about voting for McCain, and cast yourself in the lot of the st
46 AGM100 : I said that it is possible he is lying about cutting taxes , basically being a politician and saying what he has to say to get my vote. I guess I cou
47 Dvk : Grossly exaggerated and false generalization, but then only us "typical liberals" do that, according to one of our other A.net friends.
48 JBirdAV8r : I wonder what the average blood pressure is of the respondents to this thread...
49 Dreadnought : he has made it pretty damned clear in the past. Class envy is one of the bulkheads of American Liberalism and socialism.
50 Alfa75 : What is wrong with a little gossiping. I think we americans are more likely to be doing that than jetting off to help people in other countries.
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