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Mentally Ill Man Tasered In FL Courtroom  
User currently offlineFlynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...oward-taser-083008,0,7660955.story

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FORT LAUDERDALE - Upset by a judge's ruling, a mentally ill defendant asked deputies to let him catch his breath before they carted him from the Broward Circuit Court back to jail on Friday, his lawyer said.

The deputies told him he had to go, according to Assistant Public Defender Anne LeMaster, and when he resisted, they shocked him with a Taser -- twice.

The county's Public Defender's Office says the deputies used excessive force and filed a complaint with the Broward Sheriff's Office. David Jones, 22, the inmate, was handcuffed and shackled, LeMaster said.

Here we go again. I won't play armchair cop in this case, I'll just wait to see what comes out of the investigation.

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User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

Of course we will watch as the forum's conservatives and blind supporters of the police immediately jump in and say how what was done was perfectly acceptable...

(I support the police when they follow the law and do the right thing)


Blackbird


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1358 times:

Well having been tasered myself ( I volunteered), I understand what pain hes in but am not going to judge anyone responsible till the outcome is determined.

Hunter



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2659 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1348 times:



Quoting Flynavy (Thread starter):
Here we go again. I won't play armchair cop in this case, I'll just wait to see what comes out of the investigation.

Well, nothing can surprise us anymore. The prize for hitting the all time low belongs to the RCMP somewhere in BC for shocking an elderly man in his hospital bed.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1335 times:

At some point this weapon has become more of a crutch and less of a tool.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineFlexo From St. Helena, joined Mar 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1278 times:

The other side of the story is of course that the man, according to the article, was known to be violent. I for one wouldn't want to be a cop taking a mentally unstable man back to prison who's known to be violent.

IMHO the fact that the man is mentally ill is irrelevant.


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1233 times:



Quoting Flexo (Reply 5):
The other side of the story is of course that the man, according to the article, was known to be violent. I for one wouldn't want to be a cop taking a mentally unstable man back to prison who's known to be violent.

IMHO the fact that the man is mentally ill is irrelevant.

Yes he was known for being violent, that might have been the reason he was already cuffed and shackled.



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineMaidensGator From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1210 times:



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 6):
Quoting Flexo (Reply 5):
The other side of the story is of course that the man, according to the article, was known to be violent. I for one wouldn't want to be a cop taking a mentally unstable man back to prison who's known to be violent.

IMHO the fact that the man is mentally ill is irrelevant.

Yes he was known for being violent, that might have been the reason he was already cuffed and shackled.

So what would you suggest the sheriff should do in this case? Shoot him with a gun? Hit him with a stick?

Oh, I've got it, let the guy get his own way...  Yeah sure



The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12150 posts, RR: 49
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1203 times:



Quoting MaidensGator (Reply 7):
So what would you suggest the sheriff should do in this case? Shoot him with a gun? Hit him with a stick?

Oh, I've got it, let the guy get his own way...

Wow he is already cuffed and shackled and less of a risk, so what is your solution, drug him up.



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14137 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1201 times:



Quoting MaidensGator (Reply 7):
So what would you suggest the sheriff should do in this case? Shoot him with a gun? Hit him with a stick?

Oh, I've got it, let the guy get his own way... Yeah sure

What about an old fashioned "come along" grip? You know, twisting the arm, finger etc., ok as long as the guy behaves, but very painfull if he doesn't.
I have seen German police use such grips routinely if they arrest somebody and the perp resists. There even exists a special grip, a male cop can use when arresting a woman, so tha she can't accuse him of having touched her inappropiately.

There exist also some grips, using the night stick or a tonfa stick for leverage. The British, Irish and Japanese police are experts in such matters.

Jan


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