Quote: If you thought things like security cameras everywhere was a violation to your right to privacy just wait until you hear what the Department of Defense is cooking up next. The DoD has put out a proposal for a Remote Personnel Assessment (RPA) device, which appears to basically be a system using "microwave or laser beams reflected off a subject's skin to assess various physiological parameters without the need for wires or skin contacts." While the main purpose will let them monitor heart and respiratory issues for people on the go, it also returns the same info found in a standard polygraph test -- meaning that some are afraid this will become a hidden, remote lie detector system. Since polygraph machines already raise some questions about constitutionality, expect this system to raise even more questions. Of course, a polygraph test doesn't just work based on that info. It's a combination of those physiological responses and certain questions being asked of you. So, unless someone comes up to you and starts randomly asking questions, it's unlikely to be all that effective. However, it certainly does raise questions about how technology impacts privacy issues. People who are caught on security cameras are in public spaces -- so it's reasonable to think that they have no real expectation of privacy in terms of being seen. However, even in a public space you probably don't expect someone to be measuring your pulse...
While not as bad as other ideas our government is cooking up currently (this article was made in 2006) such as technology to scan brain activity and who knows what else, this is still quite creepy...
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8266 posts, RR: 41 Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 446 times:
So what are you worried about? Do you think The Guv'm'nt is going to point such devices at crowds of shoppers on the streets and arrest anyone who "fails" on a charge of having a high pulse-rate in a built-up area?
Don't you realise that the more you read about these devices and assume the worst case scenarios, the more paranoid you become?
WrenchBender From Afghanistan, joined Feb 2004, 1566 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 432 times:
OMG, stop the world, I want to get off.
If you had your way none of the following Diagnostic Tools would have been invented or be used:
Electron microscopy
Fluoroscopy
Magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)
Nuclear medicine
Photoacoustic imaging
Positron emission tomography (PET)
Projection radiography
Tomography
Ultrasound
Blackbird please stop looking for reds under the bed.
If it worries you that much, you can walk around with a tin foil hat and mask. That would reflect any microwave or laser energy, rendering the technology useless on you.
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 10367 posts, RR: 67 Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 413 times:
Anyway, even the traditional polygraph is considered unreliable in Germany and therefore not approved as evidence in a court of justice. How unreliable will be the remote polygraph?
Ihadapheo From United States, joined Sep 2001, 5814 posts, RR: 74 Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 393 times:
Back in my A.net mod days we (head mods only) were given one of these and they worked fairly well. I never gave mine back. I just fired it back up and it works fine. So far it has shown that X is NOT a CEO and Y does not have the nifty car/boat/bike/house/etc they claim to.
I put this in the same league as remote listening, chemtrails and the link between vodka and tang drinking and an increase in chimp/human hybrids
ZippyHadAPheo hey .........
Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
Flighty From United States, joined Apr 2007, 4483 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 361 times:
Quoting David L (Reply 1):
Don't you realise that the more you read about these devices and assume the worst case scenarios, the more paranoid you become?
And the more paranoid you become the faster the govt is going to zero in on you. interesting.
Blackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 358 times:
WrenchBender,
So you're saying you think people should just develop and design anything they want without thinking about any serious problems, flaws or side-effects that might arise?
WrenchBender From Afghanistan, joined Feb 2004, 1566 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 333 times:
Quoting Blackbird (Reply 10): So you're saying you think people should just develop and design anything they want without thinking about any serious problems, flaws or side-effects that might arise?
The search for weapons and tech by the military, has led to numerous 'good' things with extremely beneficial uses.
Look at my two tongue in cheek posts and think it through. Maybe, just maybe, it will lead to a 'Medical Tri-corder' that will help diagnose stuff one day.
Why do you always have to look for the possibility of 'The Gov't' doing evil, sometimes research is just research.
UH60FtRucker From Afghanistan, joined Mar 2005, 2879 posts, RR: 67 Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 305 times:
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 17): No, her cousin bowls with me and complains about it.
...Ahh, so that makes it ok to publicly publish that kind of dirt on your sister? Maybe she should come on here and tell us all about that girl you paid 4 moths to sleep with! How would you like that?
Bok269 From United States, joined May 2007, 2072 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 299 times:
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 16): No, her cousin bowls with me and complains about it.
Isn't her cousin your cousin?
Regardless this is something that should be kept within the family. And personally, the last thing I want to know about are my female's cousins sexual exploits.
DLPMMM From United States, joined Apr 2005, 2776 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 298 times:
Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 13): How about you give us her email address, so we can tell her that you are a horrible brother, and telling complete strangers, about her personal life.
Nah, just give me her e-mail address. Maybe she will go bowling with me.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 12206 posts, RR: 57 Reply 25, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 256 times:
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 4): Anyway, even the traditional polygraph is considered unreliable in Germany and therefore not approved as evidence in a court of justice.
Isn't the poligraph also not considered reliable enough and thus not approved as evidence in many US states?
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26 David L: It doesn't, nor does it try to. What a waste of money and resources that would be. How on earth did you reach that conclusion from a photo of Mr. Spo
27 LTU932: Good question, because Vulcans, while a fictional extraterrestrial race, do think things through and would only apply those solutions that are absolu
28 Dougloid: the results of the polygraph are inadmissible as evidence in US Courts last I looked, because it's unreliable and there have been a number of rather
29 Kunoichi: Same for Denmark... actually, which European countries use it..? I always had a feeling it was practically only used in the US... People on here ofte
30 Johns624: Did you read all of his replies? He also stated that his cousin who he bowls with has complained to him about it. That doesn't sound like a "joke" to
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