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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Posted (6 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Larry King show last night after the RNC . The African American guests commented over and over that the GOP never has reached out to them (as African Americans) .

One of the guest started her comments by joking that their were no African Americans in the crowd , and that it was symbolic of the Republican party. My question is why ? What do the Democrats do to attract African Americans ?

Take Katrina for instance, why did we not hear African Americans point to the 8 years of the Clinton administrations lack of FEMA planning? Why did we not here African American leaders complain about Nagen and the floating school buses ?

Is it all based on the promises of government assistance ? Do African Americans in America really believe that the Federal government can make their lives better ?

We hear that 95% of African Americans are going to vote for Sen Obama , is it all based on race ? Or do they believe the promises and ideas the Senator tells them are true ?


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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6599 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2431 times:
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Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):

Is it all based on the promises of government assistance ? Do African Americans in America really believe that the Federal government can make their lives better ?

I think that for whatever reason (historical, economical, educational, cultural -that's not the point of this discussion), most (?) African Americans are generally in need of more assistance that their white counter parts. Democratic social program usually appeal to those who need them more

Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):

Is it all based on the promises of government assistance ?

Its a matter of scale. Big companies also expect some kind of "government assistance" - generally provided by Republicans in the form of tax breaks



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3070 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2349 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 1):
Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):

Is it all based on the promises of government assistance ? Do African Americans in America really believe that the Federal government can make their lives better ?

I think that for whatever reason (historical, economical, educational, cultural -that's not the point of this discussion), most (?) African Americans are generally in need of more assistance that their white counter parts. Democratic social program usually appeal to those who need them more

For the most part,I feel this is where the media has missed in asking the big question.What is the solution of ultra-libral,African-Americans in which we seem to always come up short?The Democrats favorite solution and battle cry for years has been tax the rich,tax the rich.Yet after decades,the poor remain poor(er).The Robin Hood theory doesn't work.The Democrats are just at fault for sugar coating as the Republicans total negligence to the issue.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

Your question makes no sense what so ever. You speak as of all African Americans think the same way and expect some sort of government hand out of some sort.

Keep in mind, Senator Obama isn't making race an issue in this election. It's those that want him to lose that are making a big deal out of his race.
Also, Blacks have usually voted Democratic by 90% margins so don't expect it to change much in this election cycle.



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6599 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2333 times:
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Quoting PSA53 (Reply 2):
.The Democrats are just at fault for sugar coating as the Republicans total negligence to the issue.

Wow! I have had 2 agreements in two separate threads! I am on a roll today!



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2304 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Also, Blacks have usually voted Democratic by 90% margins so don't expect it to change much in this election cycle

This goes to the root of the question ... Why ? Most of the big cities are run by democrats with democratic platforms yet it is apparent that it is failing ? Why are they so entrenched in the ideas of these failures ?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Senator Obama isn't making race an issue in this election

Really ? I have not heard any Republican that I respect make any issue of his race .. I did hear Sen Obama make it a issue on several occasions. I understand why he would , it is a historic event and should be a positive step forward for us ... why then are we still looking across no mans land at each other. ? Should we vote for him just because he is African American ?

When I say , lower taxes are good for the American people .. I dont mean just white people .! We are all American people , why does the other side just assume we are talking about white people. ?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2302 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 5):
why does the other side just assume we are talking about white people. ?

Who on earth are you talking about?



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2273 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Who on earth are you talking about?

Read my post , I was talking about the guest (Democrats) on Larry King last night. And with 90% of the African American electorate supporting Sen Obama (Democrats)... I just am asking why ?

Donna Brazil even made a comment last night , that the GOP has a long way to go to attract African Americans in any numbers ? How can the Clinton's do it and not the GOP ?

What do democrats promise that attracts African American voters in the numbers that they do ?



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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3966 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2268 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Thread starter):
Take Katrina for instance, why did we not hear African Americans point to the 8 years of the Clinton administrations lack of FEMA planning?

Perhaps because the Bush administration had four and a half years to do something about the last administrations 'failings' in that area, and yet were still completely lacking when the shit hit the fan?


User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2258 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 8):
Perhaps because the Bush administration had four and a half years to do something about the last administrations 'failings' in that area, and yet were still completely lacking when the shit hit the fan?

It's a legitimate gripe, but they don't seem to hold their own Governor, State Government and Mayor Nagin responsible for making sure those levees and other support infrastructures were in place and in working order.

Mr. Bush certainly does deserve some blame, but not all of it! It was Louisiana's job to make sure they were prepared. It was the Government's job to back them up IF need be.

Both failed miserably.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2252 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 7):
Read my post , I was talking about the guest (Democrats) on Larry King last night.

...then you need to change your thread topic.
You are talking as if every single African American thinks exactly the same way. Perhaps you should ask; 'What does (insert Larry King's guest) want?'

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 7):
What do democrats promise that attracts African American voters in the numbers that they do ?

Promise?
You're talking as if African Americans are 'wishing' for something. African American voters vote on issues that are important to them just as anyone else.
The Republican party is seen as race-baiters, bigots and antagonist against opportunity.
Keep in mind, 100 year ago it was the opposite. African Americans were mostly Republican.

Question for you AGM100; did you grow up going to school here in the USA?
Do you remember anything taught to you in school about US history?
This is just a question.



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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8568 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2252 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Also, Blacks have usually voted Democratic by 90% margins so don't expect it to change much in this election cycle.

That's right, and the question is why "do they all think like that." It does no good to deny the numbers because they are true. African Americans do vote democratic well over 75% for most all of the country.

Why?

There are probably a million reasons. Let's start with what they don't want. African Americans are not super concerned with evangelicism (which is religiously almost 100 pct white). The pro-life movement is also vast majority white. Look at the billboards. Have you ever seen a black baby on a pro-life billboard? Probably not; the reason may be that there _is_ in fact a shortage of adoptable white babies but there is a great plentitude of black babies. The adoption business is very racially segregated and the Christian Right is heavily concerned with this overall reproduction issue, which is basically a cultural war among whites (speaking of the abortion debate).

Another issue is union support (teachers, police, firemen, auto workers, steel workers) which are very well known to the black community and supported.

Finally there is the taxes issue which is largely based on individual preference. High net worth / high income people will lean Republican on that while low income / net worth people will lean Democrat. Democraphics suggest African Americans will support the Democrats on tax issues, because they are more concerned about beefing up the low end versus relieving the high end.

Culturally, and economically the Republican platform is mono-racial. If parts of the platform were exciting to black people they would join. But there is nothing there for them.

And also, the Democrats have a long history of paying tribute (and benefits) to the African American group, both coincidentally and specifically (affirmative action, targeted Federal dollars in black neighborhoods etc). This is a special political relationship that goes back to LBJ and probably further. Not saying any of this is "right" but it has how the game has shaken out in my view.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2238 times:

Flighty:
Worth noting, even high income earning Blacks still vote Democratic.
I've only met two Black Republicans in my entire life. None were particularly rich, just ordinary working class folks. One thing I did notice was that they seemed to have a really bad self-hatred complex.



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User currently offlineAirportSeven From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2231 times:

As a born and bred Son of the South, I am going to tread lightly here.

John F. Kennedy. Robert F. Kennedy. Both were Democrats, both were supporters of the Civil Rights movement. Many Dixiecrats became Republicans in the 1960's (Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms). White southerners only recently began voting Republican on the local level because, gasp!, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican (Kirk Fordice in 1991 became the first Republican governor of the great state of Mississippi since Reconstruction). On the national level, the white south has traditionally had no problem with Republicans because many shared the same views of white southerners. In the south at least, the party lines have been drawn fairly clearly down racial boundaries.

To put the sweeping generalizations into play, Democrats are the party of social reform and welfare, and Republicans are the Country Club and Corporate Welfare Party.

The OP's question is a good one, but the answer is complex and one must look back generations and generations to get a clear picture of it.


User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2220 times:



Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 13):
John F. Kennedy. Robert F. Kennedy. Both were Democrats, both were supporters of the Civil Rights movement. Many Dixiecrats became Republicans in the 1960's (Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms). White southerners only recently began voting Republican on the local level because, gasp!, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican (Kirk Fordice in 1991 became the first Republican governor of the great state of Mississippi since Reconstruction). On the national level, the white south has traditionally had no problem with Republicans because many shared the same views of white southerners. In the south at least, the party lines have been drawn fairly clearly down racial boundaries.

Exactly Right!!! When Dr. King was thrown in jail during the election of 1960, RFK pushed JFK to call Mrs. King. He did so and Mr. Nixon did not.

People call RFK the moral conscience of his brother..He pushed him hard on Civil Rights and they did succeed on desegregation. Much of the reforms came after JFK's death, but if there ever was a champion of minorities, especially African Americans it was Robert Kennedy.

(This is what doesn't make me a stereotypical Republican lol)

The Kennedys weren't perfect, but they had Moral Authority and Courage. How many politicians would have put their asses on the line like the Kennedys did for Civil Rights, just for doing the right thing? How many Presidents in today's world would go on camera and admit he just plain screwed up? (JFK after the Bay of Pigs)

It's sad we don't have that kind of leadership..it's all about soundbites and who is worse than the other...


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2205 times:



Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 13):
Many Dixiecrats became Republicans in the 1960's (Strom Thurmond, Jesse Helms). White southerners only recently began voting Republican on the local level because, gasp!, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican (Kirk Fordice in 1991 became the first Republican governor of the great state of Mississippi since Reconstruction).

That is correct.
Other Democrats that turned Republican were Trent Lott, David Duke, Phil Grahm and even Ronald Regan.
When Regan first ran for President, he chose Philadelphia, Mississippi to give a speech about his support of 'States Rights'. The 'States Rights' slogan was Strom Thurmond's campaign platform in 1948. Philadelphia, Mississippi was were two Jewish and one Black Civil Rights attorneys were killed in 1964.

This was to attract Southern White conservatives to his campaign.



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (6 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2189 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 10):
Do you remember anything taught to you in school about US history?

Slavery , ? Are you referring to slavery ? Now if we had republicans up their talking about the good ol days on the plantation then that would be different. But we dont ! We have a platform of self reliance and economic growth for everyone not just whites.

Quoting Moo (Reply 8):
Perhaps because the Bush administration had four and a half years to do something about the last administrations failing's in that area, and yet were still completely lacking when the shit hit the fan?

Valid point , and I agree. But all the blame is on the republicans ... not the heavily democratic state/ local government .

Quoting AirportSeven (Reply 13):
put the sweeping generalizations into play, Democrats are the party of social reform and welfare, and Republicans are the Country Club and Corporate Welfare Party.

I was poor , my parents were never even in a country club ... I had nothing except the will to make a better life. I never got a break because I was white ... i got it because I was prepared and able to work with others. Why am I different ? My first boss was a African American , I had nothing but admiration for him and I learned alot from him. How could he get to his position when so many other African Americans claim its all about race. ? Really frustrating to see these kind of people on Larry King , all they do is make it worse for everyone.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2168 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16):
I had nothing but admiration for him and I learned alot from him. How could he get to his position when so many other African Americans claim its all about race. ?

Glad you've met a hard working African American. Perhaps you should have this discussion with him. Did yo bother talking to him about this? You'll probably get more straight forward answers in person.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16):
Really frustrating to see these kind of people on Larry King , all they do is make it worse for everyone.

I didn't see this show. Were his guest?


AGM100:
When you start threads like this, you attract garbage like in post # 17.



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User currently offlineGOwithCO332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2136 times:

This is not meant to seem bigoted at all. I know many African Americans that I do like, but from an impersonal view, they tend to make less money. Why that is? That is a whole other topic but they want the government to seem as though it is working towards and with them with lower taxes, universal health care, and other benefits.

In my personal opinion, the President represents the country rather than directs the country. So, even if Obama does not accomplish the things that appeal to most blacks, it seems that for the black population, democrats represent them better, even if not that much change actually comes to fruition.

I go to a school with a large amount of black people and although a large portion of them do not care and are not very intelligent (which I believe is true of most average american kids), I know that a lot of their parents would really love to be able to get reliable treatment in a hospital and not worry about insurance while being secure that their kids will have a suitable and motivating education.

Remember, this is all speaking impersonally. I have nothing against blacks and people are people at the end of the day. But, in terms of the social and economic factors which most blacks fall into, the Democrat party supplies good representation and benefits.


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5617 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2126 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16):
But we dont ! We have a platform of self reliance and economic growth for everyone not just whites.

HAHAHAHAHA...boy you're really were absent during a lot of recent history weren't you?

Personally, I really think you're just 'playing' dumb.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 16):
I was poor , my parents were never even in a country club ... I had nothing except the will to make a better life. I never got a break because I was white ... i got it because I was prepared and able to work with others. Why am I different ? My first boss was a African American , I had nothing but admiration for him and I learned alot from him. How could he get to his position when so many other African Americans claim its all about race. ?

Hmmm..so every African American should do as you're boss and become 'bosses'..that's about as easy as you becoming President of Jamaica.

I strongly suggest..(since it's clear that great Historical episodes of Republicans fighting black-concern issues left and right within the gov't for years) you visit the recent thread here on race so you can make up for what you didn't learn is history.

What Do African Americans Want?

Perhaps.. a better question is what do 'What Do White Americans Want?"

Any idea?


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User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2122 times:



Quoting GOwithCO332 (Reply 19):
I go to a school with a large amount of black people and although a large portion of them do not care and are not very intelligent (which I believe is true of most average american kids), I know that a lot of their parents would really love to be able to get reliable treatment in a hospital and not worry about insurance while being secure that their kids will have a suitable and motivating education.

The not caring about academics and lack of intelligence is an American epidemic, not isolated to any community.

I remember meeting my Kaplan SAT tutor, an Black Lawyer from Harvard (on scholarship too!!) who was just brilliant. The smartest guy I ever met. He was just the most gifted individual I have ever met, he had intellect, charm, charisma, and could take over a room like no one. His lessons on studying worked brilliantly and he was a sought after teacher.

There is discrimination towards the black community. I've seen it with my own eyes at companies I've worked for. One black applicant had the perfect resume, but made the mistake of including his website with his picture on it..

You could almost hear the white managers deflate..They cooked up some BS excuse not to hire the kid and hired some attractive white girl with half the qualifications of this guy.

My dad told me a story about a technician he hired over the objections of his brass. My dad was a Manager at a pretty well known Microwave Engineering company at the time (This was 1985).

He came across a resume from a guy who was applying for Electronics Technician job, fully qualified, but working on a construction site. My dad was surprised and called him in for an interview. The candidate was black. My dad told his Director he wanted to hire the guy, and they just rolled their eyes. My dad, like me, has a soft spot for the black community because of the shit we went through in England and do everything we can to help.

My dad hired the guy anyway, and later found out that this fully qualified Technician could not get hired and the only people who would hire him was a construction yard!!!! The only reason my dad asked him is because he would give my father expensive Christmas Gifts and my dad always wondered why.

This story was repeated a few times in the other rather reputable companies my dad worked for. He'd get tagged as a "sympathizer" because he always stood up for Black Americans.

I get the same crap too, when I advocate strongly for a Black candidate. I don't do it just because they are Black, but because they are qualified, often the best qualified.

So I can empathize. They have taken a lot of shit and even in cases where they are qualified face a ton of discrimination.


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2115 times:



Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
Glad you've met a hard working African American. Perhaps you should have this discussion with him. Did yo bother talking to him about this? You'll probably get more straight forward answers in person.

Well I have not seen him in 20 years , but I see your point. You know now that you mention it , I dont think I ever even thought about it then. I dont think I ever even thought about him being different or inferior or anything else . He was a great guy , he was my boss and treated me with respect as I did to him.

I guess he influenced me in alot of ways that I maybe did not realize. Now that I see African Americans (not all of course) but the ones who are getting press coverage saying the rules are different for them I dont understand it. As a republican I want to find some common ground thats all , African Americans are not relating to the GOP . The GOP leadership must find out what it is, and they better be including African Americans in our platform. What we need in the GOP is leadership who can relate our values to hard working Americans. We need leaders who can espouse our vision of Strong corporations and how a strong profitable top end helps all the citizens.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39898 posts, RR: 74
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2099 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):
There is discrimination towards the black community. I've seen it with my own eyes at companies I've worked for. One black applicant had the perfect resume, but made the mistake of including his website with his picture on it..

Happens frequently. It's too bad you had to see this but on the same token, I am glad you understand that this still goes on.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
What we need in the GOP is leadership who can relate our values to hard working Americans.

It's called the Democratic Party.



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5617 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2090 times:

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
Now that I see African Americans (not all of course) but the ones who are getting press coverage saying the rules are different for them I dont understand it.

Please review that thing called history as I and others gave suggested..

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
As a republican I want to find some common ground thats all , African Americans are not relating to the GOP .



And there in lies the problem.. YOU and just a few other Republicans want this.

The majority do not. Look at their voting patterns (the continuous election/re-election of past 'in-your-face' bigots like Jesse Helms, Thurmond, Trent Lott, etc... those guys couldn't have been there without a lot of support. A lot of support. Those who supported them..had children..now those children hold similar views to their parents and are now looking for new Helms, Thurmonds, Lotts and Gingrichs...

We all know the Republican Party wasn't always like that. Today's Republican Party would have lynched Lincoln (the Original Republican & GOP Party). But as posted above..it was the infusion and merging of Dixiecrats that brought the Republican Party to where it is now..ladened with extreme evangelicals (separatists) and racist elements. That's history you seem to either keep ignoring, or are woefully unaware of.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
The GOP leadership must find out what it is, and they better be including African Americans in our platform.

Will never happen. You'll have to neuter those with the 'dixiecrat roots' first and the water down the Evangelicals immediately thereafter. And your upper crust Repubs just simply aren't comfortable with 'too many' yellows, browns and blacks hanging about.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
What we need in the GOP is leadership who can relate our values to hard working Americans.

We'll have a colony on Jupiter first. The Americans who work the hardest (and I'm not talking about a young Wall Street broker slaving over a computer..) but the americans who hold down 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet... the Republicans have no use for these people in any way except for their votes--which they won't fight too hard to get, yet in many cases are the easiest to get (if white) by sending the old code of 'we're here for the whites'..Gingrich & Lott are good for those types of wink & nod coded messages. And those hard working whites fall for it hook line and sinker and get nothing in return.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 22):
We need leaders who can espouse our vision of Strong corporations and how a strong profitable top end helps all the citizens.

Newsflash! Corporations have gone global, they no longer care or see 'American' (or any other type of borders) and loyalties. Why people continue to maintain loyalties and strong support for them is beyond me...

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):



Hopefully, you read Sv7887's post... those black guys you see talking 'the system'...it is exactly what Sv7887's talking about that they are relating to...and it is not an anomally.



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[Edited 2008-09-03 15:47:58]


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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3382 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2046 times:



Quoting AGM100 (Reply 5):

This goes to the root of the question ... Why ? Most of the big cities are run by democrats with democratic platforms yet it is apparent that it is failing ? Why are they so entrenched in the ideas of these failures ?

Where do the biggest portion of black people live, its in the city where they are probably joined by 2/3 of the general urban/suburban population. Look at Manhattan I would say that more than 80% of the people living there are democrats and they are not necessarily black. Even in the cities in say Texas (a very red state) more than half the population living in Dallas are likely democrats.

The US has one of the lower values for urban population (although very high by world standards) but it is lower than all of the EU and even Canada and we have a much larger area for one tenth of the people. This is one of the many reason that the US is more conservative than other developed countries is because there is still a high rural population which is more traditional.



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25 LASOctoberB6 : To add some humor in this thing; You mean like Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks? I still have NO clue as to what you are asking about. I wasn't going
26 Jetblueguy22 : Why do you think that is? I am not a racist person but it's because he's is BLACK. I asked plenty of people who they are voting for and 95% of the Bl
27 Superfly : The only time I can recall the Republican Party ever reaching out to the Black community here in California was to restrict the rights of others. Pro
28 Superfly : ...and you expect anyone here to believe you've actually done this? Name one.
29 BN747 : GOOD one... ..it's amazing how many people 'think' the Uncle Ruckus types are a mere joke.. and not real. They come in every minority flavor..trust m
30 Continental : An example like this, and a multitude of other methods prevent black individuals from succeeding and reaching higher positions. It is certainly all a
31 LASOctoberB6 : I know, I know... He was the first person to pop into my head when Supa's reply..
32 Jetblueguy22 : Well considering I'm the head of the political club for sophomores, juniors, and seniors I would say yes I have asked. Blue
33 JFK69 : I am going to agree with Jetblueguy22 on this one and I will tell you why. During the DNC, when Obama spoke, they set up chairs i n Times Square to w
34 Superfly : Yes, they were real versions of Uncle Ruckus. Jetblueguy22 & JFK69: For every vote in favor of Obama because he's Black, I am sure there are at least
35 JFK69 : Sorry to go tit-for-tat-....But can you prove this? I think it is a fairly bold statement. Why can't it be 1-1...why does the "white" man vote have t
36 Superfly : Hey I am totally calm in all of this. You and your conservative pals are the ones that seem so 'scared' of Obama being elected President. For the rec
37 Evan767 : As harsh as that might sound, I completely agree. Somebody finally had the balls to say it in this thread.
38 Superfly : Doesn't take much balls to make those kinds of statements behind a computer.
39 JFK69 : And if someone says it on TV then they will have Sharpton and the NAN marching there in 5 hours. As a NYC resident I am a registered democrat (but wi
40 Post contains links and images Jetblueguy22 : How's that? Now I'm not behind a computer screen I'm on a computer screen. Blue
41 Superfly : They already have. Notice none of those two were invited to the Democratic convention. If Obama wins, it would only be symbolic. No Black person expe
42 Superfly : Cute. ...and I am not talking about your picture.
43 Tsaord : For one thing, to stop being marginalized. Back during reconstruction is when African Americans left the GOP very quickly because they really did not
44 Ken777 : I'm 64 and I remember growing up in Houston in the 50s. "White" and "Colored" signs on everything from drinking fountains to bathrooms. The school sys
45 Jetblueguy22 : Well that certainly hurt my feelings . Well I'm going to watch the the acceptance speech. Blue
46 StarAC17 : I agree and that is something no one wants to talk about or can't because the polls say otherwise to what people really think. However this is slowly
47 Dougloid : Does anyone remember how Earl Butz lost his job as Sec. Ag. when asked this same question?
48 Sv7887 : See Black Americans are in this catch-22...If they cry racism, they are labeled as complainers, if they don't cry racism and just get sick of trying
49 Superfly : Glad you understand this. Very true. Although it's not so silent here on the Internet.
50 FlyingTexan : Like Palin? So black people get sooo many tax breaks for this and that and they still complain! Whoa! Where did you learn that pray tell. Please prov
51 Jetblueguy22 : Local newspaper said they get city tax breaks. That is what I was inferring. Not federal. Blue
52 Santosdumont : A good first step would be for senior Republicans like Trent Lott and Haley Barbour to stop addressing meetings of the White supremacist Council of C
53 Dougloid : 'fly, didn't I once remark that the internet gave everyone a voice but it did not guarantee they'd have anything worthwhile to say? With more signal
54 UH60FtRucker : You know... it takes integrity, and a strong faith in one's beliefs, to stand before the NCAA, and tell them that blacks are failing blacks. ...As Sen
55 AGM100 : Newsflash , if you are a corporate product developer in the world and disregard the American market ... then you should be fired. Of course your prod
56 Sv7887 : I agree with you, but to deny there isn't silent racism isn't right. I see what you are saying, we should all AIM high and not let the specter of rac
57 AirportSeven : Trent and Haley can't turn their backs on the CCC. That's their base. And Trent Lott has no need to keep up the appearance of being anything more tha
58 Dougloid : Charity starts at home. Also self respect, duty, honor, loyalty, fidelity, honesty in all things, truthfulness, good work habits ,diligence and respe
59 GDB : Wasn't it LBJ who really pushed hard to end segregation? Of course fate had it that he would be President, signing the legislation. He commented this
60 Dougloid : You may be referring to the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Johnson finished what had begun with Roosevelt. Of course he was right about losing the south f
61 AGM100 : [ I guess there will always be silent racism , and I have not denied that it exists. I guess I admire those who overcome without complaint and blame ,
62 Sv7887 : Oh you are definitely right and I wasn't accusing you of denying anything. It exists yes, but I understand your message as well. The path towards suc
63 Post contains links Mdsh00 : This is an example of how it is sometimes difficult for the GOP to reach out to Black voters: By a Congressman from the Atlanta suburbs, who has never
64 Dougloid : It's an exercise in heuristic thinking. Mental batch processing if you will, where one keystroke triggers an entire set of subroutines. It's actually
65 Doona : Well, yes. That's why the African American community is so obviously economically superior. Cheers Mats
66 Superfly : Wow! I am not surprised however. Those Southern conservatives are overt with their bigotry. That Republican Congressman is a pure scumbag. Those are
67 BN747 : The QUESTION... The ANSWER.. ...in summation, this nonsense has being an unending and unrelenting truthful disclosure of what lies at the heart of the
68 Superfly : I seriously doubt AGM100 is that ignorant of US history as he pretends. AGM100 is the same user that found 'humor' in the fact that Senator Obama has
69 Dougloid : This may be apropos
70 AGM100 : Well US history is one thing ,, fine detail about what senator or congressman was a Dixiecrat or what ever is different. However , I did here that Se
71 IliriBDL : You hit it on the nail my friend. This is why a lot of immigrants support the Democratic party. Myself on the other (and my dad just for the info) we
72 AGM100 : You mean when RFK / FBI wire tapped Mr King Junior ? That 1960's ? That Hero of the democratic party ?
73 GDB : JFK/RFK would have been under great pressure to wiretap, from who would carry it out. That is, the racist, mafia denying, homophobe (him likely gay an
74 Dougloid : You're a one trick pony, 100. "So's yer auntie" is no way to hold up your end of an argument.
75 AGM100 : I am , ? uhhhh thank you ? How many tricks do you have ? So its OK , that you label republicans racist by association ... however it does not apply t
76 Superfly : ...so everything everyone has told you in this thread must have gone right over your head. Have you bothered to read the post in this thread YOU star
77 AGM100 : Well maybe we should since this thread is going nowhere fast. Yes , but nothing of them clears it up. So we get rid of all the Republican representat
78 WILCO737 : Ok guys, this thread will be locked now. I think the discussion is pretty much at an end because it starts to get personal again and not leading to a
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