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Elitist? Cindy McCain's Monday Outfit Cost $300K  
User currently offlineRadarbeam From Canada, joined Mar 2002, 1310 posts, RR: 5
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2071 times:

One of the persistent memes in the Republican line of attack against Barack Obama is the notion that he is an elitist, whereas the G.O.P. represent real working Americans. But when Vanity Fair priced out Cindy McCain's Monday Night Convention outfit, the total price was staggering to say the least.... between $299,100 and $313,100.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/pol...9/cindy-mccains-300000-outfit.html

Nice going Cindy  Wink

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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2053 times:



Quoting Radarbeam (Thread starter):
Nice going Cindy Wink

Eh...That's always a line from the GOP; they used it back in 2004 too. Regardless, It's probably not that important.



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineLuckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

Makes sense considering the earings, which are more than likely loaned with security from the designer parked backstage.

User currently offlinePacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Republicans point out that liberals espouse elitist values that are not in sync with traditional American values of country, family, and individual responsibility. Republicans do not apologize for wealth because they believe that if people are free to exercise their individual freedoms unfettered from unnecessary government intrusion they too can acquire wealth. Cindy McCain is not elitist for wearing an expensive outfit anymore than a hard-working American is elitist for saving up money to buy an expensive motorhome or RV. What is elitist about liberals' values is their condescension towards Americans with traditional values who do not begrudge Cindy McCain (or anyone else for that matter) for having enough money to live as she pleases.

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10735 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2020 times:



Quoting Radarbeam (Thread starter):
when Vanity Fair priced out Cindy McCain's Monday Night Convention outfit, the total price was staggering to say the least.... between $299,100 and $313,100.

This is not much when you think that Carla Bruni and the ladies in the French government are wearing clothing comingalmost exclusively from Couture houses, Dior, Saint Laurent, Lagerfeld et al. that cost in the thousands of Euros each.

In comparison Cindy McCain goes cheap and I bet it's on her own money not the political party's money. If she owns a private jet, she could spend a lot more than $300 on a suit. It does not shock me.

$300 is the kind of money any executive secretary in a major company in Paris will spend on a suit that she will wear in the office on her day job and she will need a different one each day of the week.



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User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

mrs concorde, its about grands.


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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10735 posts, RR: 38
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

Oh... I misread it... It's $300K not $300.

That's a totally different story! If she can afford to pay that much for one suit wiith her own money then she equals Carla Bruni.

At such a high price mark it probably comes from one of the most famous couture houses!



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User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2004 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 4):
she could spend a lot more than $300 on a suit. It does not shock me.

It said $300k...


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1999 times:



Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 3):
What is elitist about liberals' values is their condescension towards Americans with traditional values

What is a traditional value? Discrimination is not a "traditional value". Interfering in other people's daily lives is not a "traditional value". Spending bucket loads of money on useless foreign policy is not a "traditional value".

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 3):
Republicans point out that liberals espouse elitist values that are not in sync with traditional American values of country, family, and individual responsibility.

You apparently have absolutely no idea what the term "elitist" means then.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 4):

$300 is the kind of money any executive secretary in a major company in Paris will spend on a suit that she will wear in the office on her day job and she will need a different one each day of the week.

Not $300 (Three Hundred), $300,000 (Three Hundred Thousand)



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User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1993 times:



Quoting Radarbeam (Thread starter):
But when Vanity Fair priced out Cindy McCain's Monday Night Convention outfit, the total price was staggering to say the least.... between $299,100 and $313,100.

Seems diamonds were the bulk of that at $280,000

Guess her charity work means nothing right? Or the 25K she donated to Hurricane Gustav victims? Or the Bangladeshi kids she adopted and saved the lives of?


User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5968 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1990 times:
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Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 3):
Republicans do not apologize for wealth because they believe that if people are free to exercise their individual freedoms unfettered from unnecessary government intrusion they too can acquire wealth. Cindy McCain is not elitist for wearing an expensive outfit anymore than a hard-working American is elitist for saving up money to buy an expensive motorhome or RV. What is elitist about liberals' values is their condescension towards Americans with traditional values who do not begrudge Cindy McCain (or anyone else for that matter) for having enough money to live as she pleases.

That is exactly right. Being elitist is when you think you know what is best for everyone. Owning expensive things you bought with your money doesn't make anyone elitist. Telling somebody they can't have something they can afford just because you don't like it is elitist.

I always say "You are not a snob if you really are better than other people".



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User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Elitist - An elitist genetic algorithm is one that always retains in the population the best individual found so far. Tournament selection is naturally elitist.


Elitist - is the belief or attitude that those individuals who are considered members of the elite -- a select group of people with outstanding personal abilities, intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes -- are those whose views on a matter are to be taken ...


Elitist - Someone who believes in rule by an elite group; Of or relating to elitism



Does any one see anything regarding the use of a nice dress, that was bought with the persons own money, result of her own work ?



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User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1975 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
Spending bucket loads of money on useless foreign policy is not a "traditional value".

And spending money on useless domestic entitlement programs is any better?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
Interfering in other people's daily lives is not a "traditional value"

Oh wow so banning foods I might want to eat isn't interference? Raising my taxes through the roof isn't interference? Or stopping me from buying a diesel vehicle in CA, MA, and a few others?

Give me a break. The world isn't black and white like that. There is Good and Bad with BOTH of these political parties...


User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5968 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1955 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 4):
$300 is the kind of money any executive secretary in a major company in Paris will spend on a suit that she will wear in the office on her day job and she will need a different one each day of the week.

A good men's suit will cost a lot more than that. A halfway decent suit runs about $300-$400. Sometimes you can get last year's model for a great discount.



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 3817 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1953 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 12):
Oh wow so banning foods I might want to eat isn't interference?

Yeah, that is exactly what public health is, interference. Such as banning drugs I guess, then?



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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1934 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 12):
Oh wow so banning foods I might want to eat isn't interference?

When taxpayers have to foot the bill of people who engorged themselves on fatty foods and then need life saving operations and procedures, or payment of their diabetes medication, there is an element of a government role in preventative health. Are you then also against things like flouridated water, certain vaccinations, and so forth?



"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1929 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 12):

Oh wow so banning foods I might want to eat isn't interference?

I don't see anyone banning foods you want to eat. If you are talking about bans in place with restaurants, you can look dead on at a Republican mayor for taking the lead on that one.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 12):
Raising my taxes through the roof isn't interference?

"Your" taxes? Are you part of John McCain's "middle class" making $4 million a year? Barack Obama is proposing a massive middle class tax cut. Oh, by the way, the government has every right to tax people anyway they see fit. You sure sound "entitled" there.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 12):
Or stopping me from buying a diesel vehicle in CA, MA, and a few others?

First, this is a federal election. If you want to get into a State's Rights argument about this one, you will be flying WAY off the "conservative" line. Second, you already can buy diesels in those states, so you are misrepresenting what the laws are. Third, if you want car makers to put out more compliant diesels, convince them that the economic realities fit for them.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 12):

And spending money on useless domestic entitlement programs is any better?

"Useless" programs huh? So, rectifying the fact that 50 million are uninsured is "useless"? Spending less on health care overall is "useless"? Insuring that the elderly don't have to choose between pills and a hot meal is "useless"? Insuring that US industry is on an equal playing field is "useless"?

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 12):
There is Good and Bad with BOTH of these political parties...

Unfortunately, most of the bad with one is caused by that of the other.



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

talking about Cindy-she does not find Palin's speech so great and refuses to be called an adept of her utterly rightwing excesses tied to some abortion refusal practice and denial of sex-education..


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User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1914 times:



Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 15):
Are you then also against things like flouridated water, certain vaccinations, and so forth?

Of course not..But there is a big difference. We allow people to drink, smoke cigarettes and whatever else is fashionable these days and the effects are equally if not more damaging.

Where do you stop?
Banning trans-fats does what exactly? It doesn't stop the source of the problem: Poor eating habits. It's like people who overdose on "Low Fat" products thinking it gives them free license to do whatever they want.

Here is an interesting article on from the Financial Times on the subject:
http://us.ft.com/ftgateway/superpage.ft?news_id=fto080820081602514638


User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1339 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1854 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 10):
That is exactly right. Being elitist is when you think you know what is best for everyone.

Like the Republican platform of banning abortion? I am personally against abortion but who am I to tell another women what to do with her body?!

Like the Republican platform of supporting sodomy laws that are applied to gay men? If two men are in love (or not) and want to get it on in the privacy of their own home, who cares? I sure don't.

Republicans seem to be real good at talking about less government but are the masters of placing MORE restrictions on people based on their own moral code. It seems like it is the Republicans that think they know what is best for everyone.

You might want to re-evaluate your thought process.

HALFA



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User currently offlineIllini_152 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1828 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Oh, by the way, the government has every right to tax people anyway they see fit. You sure sound "entitled" there.

Thats funny. I seem to remember a little war fought 230 years ago to change that. When will the left understand; it's MY MONEY, not the government's. The government does not have an intrinsic right to the citizen's property. That's what makes us different from subjects. Though these days, with our ruling elite spending 30+ years in office, I'm beginning to see less and less difference.



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User currently offlineSv7887 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1025 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
First, this is a federal election. If you want to get into a State's Rights argument about this one, you will be flying WAY off the "conservative" line. Second, you already can buy diesels in those states, so you are misrepresenting what the laws are. Third, if you want car makers to put out more compliant diesels, convince them that the economic realities fit for them.

Try getting a brand new Diesel car in MA for the past few years. Only the new Mercedes Bluetecs have limited availability in CA right now.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
"Useless" programs huh? So, rectifying the fact that 50 million are uninsured is "useless"? Spending less on health care overall is "useless"? Insuring that the elderly don't have to choose between pills and a hot meal is "useless"? Insuring that US industry is on an equal playing field is "useless"?

45.7 Million (2008)

check your facts before you start spouting the Michael Moore BS:

AND

"But according to the same Census report, there are 8.3 million uninsured people who make between $50,000 and $74,999 per year and 8.74 million who make more than $75,000 a year. That’s roughly 17 million people who ought to be able to “afford” health insurance because they make substantially more than the median household income of $46,326."

AND

"However, the Census Bureau report “Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2005,” puts the initial number of uninsured people living in the country at 46.577 million.(2005)


A closer look at that report reveals the Census data include 9.487 million people who are “not a citizen.” Subtracting the 10 million non-Americans, the number of uninsured Americans falls to roughly 37 million."



http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...us/2008-08-26-census-poverty_N.htm
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2007/20070718153509.aspx
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlthins/hlthin04.html

So we're down to 27 million....

And for those kind folks here's the Massachusetts Solution:
http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7494.cfm

That was a product of private enterprise and public assistance for those who truly cannot afford it, by a Republican Governor and a Democratic Legislature

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Insuring that US industry is on an equal playing field is "useless"?

Ummm it's called Capitalism not Socialism...

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
don't see anyone banning foods you want to eat. If you are talking about bans in place with restaurants, you can look dead on at a Republican mayor for taking the lead on that one.



Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
"Your" taxes? Are you part of John McCain's "middle class" making $4 million a year? Barack Obama is proposing a massive middle class tax cut. Oh, by the way, the government has every right to tax people anyway they see fit. You sure sound "entitled" there.

You mean McCain's joke of $5 million?

You clearly don't study economics do you? Barack Obama is going to raise capital gains and Dividends taxes on the 50% of Americans who invest in the market. Add the Payroll Tax increase too.

As for Massive...
""Four months ago I said it was time to put a middle-class tax cut worth $1000 per family into the pockets of workers who deserve it," Obama said."

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/po...bama_calls_for_250_tax_cut_fo.html

MASSIVE? With Gas at near $4 a gallon! My ass.

I am sure those evil big business he talks about won't pass on the cost of the tax to the consumers, right??? But wait doesn't Big Oil set the price of Gasoline? Oh wait, maybe they'll be so generous and not pass along the taxes to the people?

Which is it?

http://www.majon.com/articles/Financ...sk_stock_market_investing_787.html

No, the government works for the people and they don't have the right to "DO" anything.

Entitled my ass, I'd like to keep the money I work hard for.

[Edited 2008-09-04 14:37:11]

[Edited 2008-09-04 14:40:00]

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1765 times:



Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):
Try getting a brand new Diesel car in MA for the past few years. Only the new Mercedes Bluetecs have limited availability in CA right now.

You said vehicle. You can buy diesel vehicles in MA. As for the rest of them, that is a pure case of the capitalism you claim to know all about.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):
"But according to the same Census report, there are 8.3 million uninsured people who make between $50,000 and $74,999 per year and 8.74 million who make more than $75,000 a year. That’s roughly 17 million people who ought to be able to “afford” health insurance because they make substantially more than the median household income of $46,326."

One, what percentage of their income would it cost those people. Two, just how many of those people you claim can afford health care have kids? How many people do they support on that amount of money?

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):

A closer look at that report reveals the Census data include 9.487 million people who are “not a citizen.” Subtracting the 10 million non-Americans, the number of uninsured Americans falls to roughly 37 million."

Wait now. Since when are non-citizens not paying into the system. I am not even talking about your inevitable baseless illegal immigrant argument. I am talking about legal residents who pay into the same systems as everyone else.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):

Ummm it's called Capitalism not Socialism...

And that statement is completely irrelevant. In the United States, manufacturers from four countries compete for the vast majority of the market. Japan, Germany and South Korea all have well developed systems of universal health care and national pensions, taking the burden off their large corporations.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):

You clearly don't study economics do you?

You clearly have no idea, do you?

Quoting Illini_152 (Reply 20):
When will the left understand; it's MY MONEY, not the government's.

It's also your government, which means you have to fund it.

Quoting Illini_152 (Reply 20):
The government does not have an intrinsic right to the citizen's property

Well, actually, the government can take anyone's property they want if they compensate them for it. Of course, the government gets to set that rate.

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):
MASSIVE? With Gas at near $4 a gallon! My ass.

Wow, talk about a misquote. The $1000 is to be sent out in the form of a rebate, while the tax cuts would go much further. Then again, with a much more sensible monetary policy, oil should drop significantly with a stronger dollar.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5845 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1754 times:



Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 3):
Republicans point out that liberals espouse elitist values that are not in sync with traditional American values of country, family, and individual responsibility.

Funny. If it wasn't for the liberals, conservatives wouldn't have any traditional values to fall back upon. Heck, we'd probably still be paying tea tax to descendants of King George.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 31
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1738 times:



Quoting Falstaff (Reply 13):
A halfway decent suit runs about $300-$400. Sometimes you can get last year's model for a great discount.

Its not expensive and I dont care its not a famous lable, but two of my suits are haggar and for daily wear they are great suits. That and Im cheap and Would never actaully pay 300 for a suit  tongue 

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):
And for those kind folks here's the Massachusetts Solution:
http://www.kff.org/uninsured/7494.cfm

That was a product of private enterprise and public assistance for those who truly cannot afford it, by a Republican Governor and a Democratic Legislature

Dear god, what a mess that is...

Quoting Sv7887 (Reply 21):
MASSIVE? With Gas at near $4 a gallon! My ass.

And dropping daily....

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
You can buy diesel vehicles in MA.

Partilaly right. Until, iirc 2003 you could buy NEW diesel cars and trucks. After then you could only buy diesel trucks and suv's (excursion, the rare Suburban, etc) and USED diesel cars. It is not until this fall when VW rolls out its new TDi engine that you once again can buy new diesel cars in the state.

Kinda off topic, but interesting note on the Mercedes CDi, they are illegal in MA and several surrounding states:

Quote:
Mercedes states that their diesel cars are NOT legal for sale in California, Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, or Vermont. A limited number will be available for lease in California

http://www.practicalenvironmentalist.com/tag/diesel-cars



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25 N1120A : Again, he said vehicles, which was misrepresenting what one actually could do. $300 is cheap for a suit, especially after alterations are made.
26 Cadet57 : Agreed, but of course just pointing out that there were inaccuracies on both sides. More so on his part, as you were right. No, 150 is a good deal. $
27 N1120A : I wasn't inaccurate in my response. I didn't say you could get a diesel car.
28 AirframeAS : So? Why is this newsworthy? The Dems have the same kind of outfits priced the same. Big deal. She bought the suit, not the GOP. Or it might have been
29 Post contains links Sv7887 : Posturing once again...Oh please, wrong again: http://blogs.edmunds.com/strategies/...-day-where-are-diesels-banned.html The second VW was allowed to
30 Comorin : Like in Oscar de la Rental?
31 AirframeAS : You never know.
32 Cadet57 : Actually, you're wrong. You can buy diesel vehicles here. I explained it above. Go read and educate yourself. So because my local VW dealership is se
33 N1120A : Did you hear his speech? Again, you are the one who is wrong. You used the term "vehicle" which covers trucks, motorcycles, cars, etc. Hey, the Euros
34 Post contains links Sv7887 : Sounds like you also need an education: "Because I live in New Hampshire, the 2006 Jeep Liberty Limited 4x4 diesel is available. For residents of Mas
35 Cadet57 : Good lord. Did you even READ what I wrote? I SAID THE EXACT SAME THING. NEW CARS ARE BANNED. YOU CAN STILL BUY TRUCKS. So thats why there is a 2008 J
36 N1120A : Again, you are missing the point. You said "vehicle", which was untrue.
37 Flanker : Its her own money, she can do with it as she sees fit.
38 PPVRA : Anyone who thinks so highly of themselves and who thinks they have a right to take anyone else's rights away, for whatever reason, is an elitist.[Edit
39 TSS : IF, and only if, they're real and of premium quality. Exactly as Hollywood stars do on Oscar night. Harry Winston makes big $$$ loaning jewelry out.
40 JCS17 : Leave it up to Vanity Fair, a magazine that is still stuck in the closet, to do a story about the cost of Cindy McCain's outfit. Seriously, if you're
41 FlyingTexan : On abortion and uninsured... Republicans care about the baby until its born. After that, no more. Uninsured. Tough shit. Don't be poor, how could one
42 WunalaYann : But at least we claim to be elitist... Your phrasing itself is telling - you implicitly oppose Cindy McCain (whose husband I actually kind of like) a
43 LTBEWR : To parapharse, the rich and the polliticans are different than us. It is obscene as well as bad politics to come out with such expensive stuff on. Pro
44 Speedbird741 : What is the problem of Cindy McCain comming to such an important event like the RNC, using a dress she bought with her own money....it's her property
45 PacNWjet : Oh, believe me, I know what the term "elitist" means. I am a faculty member at a university that is billed as an "elite" institution of higher educat
46 N1120A : In this country, especially in politics, wealth and elitism nearly always equate. John Edwards is one of very few exceptions. Again, you really expan
47 Alfa75 : You know what? I don't like Cindy McCain, and to spend that much money on a wardrobe is just plain stupid, but she has the money so let her spread it
48 PacNWjet : Exactly. I have in mind in particular definition #2: Snobbery. That is the elitism espoused by some elements of the liberal establishment in the Unit
49 N1120A : Except that the definition specifically precludes the "liberals" you speak of because the value they hold dearest is inclusiveness. It is the right w
50 PacNWjet : Liberals? Inclusive? Not the liberals I know. Just this morning Obama adviser Howard Guttman was on the Laura Ingraham show explaining how Sarah Pali
51 PSA727 : For the last time...Income levels does not have to do with elitism! Go to Berkely,CA there are plenty of elists there with limited budgets and hemp is
52 N1120A : The "conservatives" include among their "traditional values" telling women what to do with their bodies as well as discriminating against various dif
53 PacNWjet : This comment is almost at the level at which it doesn't even deserve a reply, but not quite, so here goes. First, conservatives who oppose abortion (
54 MadameConcorde : Should the jewelry be included in the $300K outfit cost? I did not see any pictures although it seems that she probably wore jewelry along with the cl
55 N1120A : It doesn't matter. They are still telling people what to do. There is a huge difference between opposing abortion, which I would imagine more than 90
56 PSA727 : Asking me to pay for failing bureaucratic organizations and policies is not descrimination. The Left can do whatever they want, I'm not stopping them
57 Viaggiare : Well said. That figure includes roughly $280K worth of (three-carat diamond) earrings.
58 Post contains links MadameConcorde : From what is said in the article, the silk clothing is only a fraction of the $300K. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_en_ot/cvn_gop_fashion_8 Va
59 Sv7887 : DAMN!!! Makes me NOT want to get married LOL....Ouch!! And here I was worried about expensive engagement rings...Wow I can't believe earrings are tha
60 N1120A : Did you even read what I wrote? It is discriminating against the poor to not have universal health care, not to mention the fact that it costs our ec
61 TylerDurden : Geez....your lucky to get shoes for your suit for less than $300! Decent pair of Bally loafers or dress will set you back at least $400 (but worth ev
62 KL773ER : I would absolutely love to pull up with some Dr. Pepper and popcorn and watch Cindy McCain and Sarah Palin have the ultimate CATFIGHT. -KL
63 Sv7887 : Ouch, what kind of shoes are that expensive? I balk even at Johnston and Murphy which already seems unreasonably expensive to me. I got my pair on sa
64 TylerDurden : $300 for good dress shoes is not that costly. Oxfords and dress loafer's can get very expensive, but they last if you take care of them. Casual wear
65 AirframeAS : Isn't gonna ever happen. But, if it did actually happen, the day that does happen between now and Nov 4th, you can bet that John McCain would throw P
66 WILCO737 : Ok guys, I will lock that thread now. it went off topic - talking about Diesel Cars than about the topic. WILCO737 (MD11F)
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