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Palin Doesn’t Know What The Bush Doctrine Is  
User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1845 posts, RR: 5
Posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3288 times:

Here's the Gibson interview with Palin. Amazing that she had no idea what the Bush Doctrine was when asked.

Here's the clip... starts at about 7:50 into the video.



GIBSON: Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?

PALIN: In what respect, Charlie?

GIBSON: The Bush — well, what do you — what do you interpret it to be?

PALIN: His world view?

GIBSON: No, the Bush doctrine, enunciated September 2002, before the Iraq war.

PALIN: I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism, terrorists who are hell bent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though. There have been mistakes made. And with new leadership, and that’s the beauty of American elections, of course, and democracy, is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.

GIBSON: The Bush doctrine, as I understand it, is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense, that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?

PALIN: Charlie, if there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

It's doesn't actually exist.

The "Bush Doctrine" is just a made up phrase used by the left wingers in this country to demonize our defense policies and our current proactive response to international terrorist groups such as Al-Quarto-quilla,quinta-in, Crapo however they spell it.


It is a made up term that has no basis in reality.



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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5869 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3271 times:

well its pretty stupid of her to answer like she did if it doesn't exist, yeah?

she certainly answered like there's a Bush doctrine.

[Edited 2008-09-11 20:53:16]


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User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1845 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3263 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
It's doesn't actually exist.

It is a made up term that has no basis in reality.

No basis in reality? You should tell that to those US military families and Iraqi families who have lost loved ones from the War on Terror in Iraq.

BTW...nice try at trying to erase history!

[Edited 2008-09-11 20:56:32]


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3246 times:



Quoting TUNisia (Reply 3):
You should tell that to those US military families and Iraqi families who have lost loved ones from the War on Terror in Iraq.

I didn't say there wasn't a war on terror, just there wasn't a Bush Doctrine.



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User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1845 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3242 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 4):
I didn't say there wasn't a war on terror, just there wasn't a Bush Doctrine.

According to you? Has any national news outlet printed a story stating there is no Bush Doctrine?

There are countless stories (found through a Google search) in major newspapers, magazines, and cable news websites speaking of the Bush Doctrine contrary to what you're saying.



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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5869 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3238 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 4):
I didn't say there wasn't a war on terror, just there wasn't a Bush Doctrine.

so why answer the question is such a catergorical fashion if there isn't one?

seems rather stupid to me.



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3232 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
It's doesn't actually exist.

The "Bush Doctrine" is just a made up phrase used by the left wingers in this country to demonize our defense policies and our current proactive response to international terrorist groups such as Al-Quarto-quilla,quinta-in, Crapo however they spell it.


It is a made up term that has no basis in reality.

Uh, what on earth are you talking about? Is the Truman Doctrine a made up term by right wingers in the 1950s? It only has a negative implication because you take it that way. Maybe you should open up a history book sometime. Maybe you'll realize its commonplace to discuss the policies and strategies of administrations, and not created by partisan hacks to insult your favorite President....

What is inherently negative about it, anyway?



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3218 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):

It is a made up term that has no basis in reality.



Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
made up phrase u



Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
It's doesn't actually exist.



Quoting L-188 (Reply 4):
r, just there wasn't a Bush Doctrine.

Let me break this down, and make it really easy for you.

"Bush"- George W. Bush, the 43rd President of the United States

"Doctrine"- A stated principle of government policy, mainly in foreign or military affairs. Ex: The Monroe Doctrine



But according to you...this simply does not exist...and it is a made up term by the left... Does the Bush administration not have any policies?



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3211 times:



Quoting TUNisia (Reply 5):
Quoting L-188 (Reply 4):
I didn't say there wasn't a war on terror, just there wasn't a Bush Doctrine.

According to you? Has any national news outlet printed a story stating there is no Bush Doctrine?

There are countless stories (found through a Google search) in major newspapers, magazines, and cable news websites speaking of the Bush Doctrine contrary to what you're saying

Exactly my point it is a media creation to make a political point.

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 8):
But according to you...this simply does not exist...and it is a made up term by the left... Does the Bush administration not have any policies?

So basicly your admiting that GW has a plan???

I thought the left wing thought GW was planless.....he can't be both.  boggled 



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User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1845 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3207 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 9):
Exactly my point it is a media creation to make a political point.

Have you considered a job with Fox News?



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3207 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 9):

I thought the left wing thought GW was planless.....he can't be both. boggled

Oh, nice rebuttal. Classify all liberals into a mold of thinking Bush is a total idiot...nice one. Even if i id think that (which I don't), there is still undeniable expertise and intelligence operating behind him.... This really can't be your response, can it? A made up term of the left wing for partisanship reasons....... you have GOT to be kidding me. Same with the Monroe Doctrine, the Truman Doctrine? Get a clue.



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User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

I never knew what it was either. I hope people who are sick of Bush don't use this as a measuring stick. I think a LOT people right now don't even care what doctrines his names are on at this point.

User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

Oh my Lord! And that looked to be the thought bubble coming out of the interviewer too.

Just a side note, if you want to stop other groups of terrorists from attacking America (not even they had an ambition to destroy the US) it might be best to work out why they did it rather than sit in a paranoid corner repeating "they hate us" like a machine gun.

I wonder what she would answer if asked if it would be a good idea to try to understand terrorists. The most likely answer would confuse understand them with like them. Oh my Lord!

Thanks TUNisia.


User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2745 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

Uhhhh, so what is the Bush Doctrine?

User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5615 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

"The" Bush Doctrine?

Ridiculous question.

Reminds me of one of the fraternity "rituals" we did in college- ask the pledge to describe the '"Great Seal" of the fraternity; they'd stammer and stutter, try describing the crest, etc., and we'd gravely inform them that they had missed the question and would be expelled.

Then we'd uncover the "Seal," a picture of a ... seal.

There was no "Great Seal," other than the one we'd made up. From that day forward, of course, they knew what the Great Seal was, and it was an inside joke.

Sort of like a reporter asking a Vice-Presidential Nominee her views on the "Bush Doctrine"- a clever inside joke for a reporter trying to create news.

And they wonder why the press is held in such poor regard lately...



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User currently offlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5785 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

Boy I can't believe that some people here are so disconnected and oblivious that they don't know of the "Bush Doctrine". As to it being a creation of opponents, its not, it's been recognized for a long time and it came into play after the September 11th attacks. Put in its simplest terms it was originally defined by the policy of "preemption". It has changed and evolved as anything political does and sadly it has evolved into something much muuddier due to Iraq.

I found numerous references to it on the web and in particular in many conservative sites. A simple and good definition was this one from 2006:

Quote:
The problem is that the Bush Doctrine has changed. At its inception, the doctrine stood for the proposition that the U.S. would use force preemptively if necessary to destroy terrorists and those who harbor them. It later evolved into something different — a Democracy Project."

http://levin.nationalreview.com/post...A2M2IzMDgzYjI1MWJiNTNjZmFjY2M5YzI=

Tugg



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5620 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3155 times:

"Palin Doesn’t Know What The Bush Doctrine Is"

Screw that!!!

1) The biggest bomb was when asked about 'Foreign Policy Experience'...

..Palin tries to schuck and jive her way out of it with 'Well, my understanding of energy issues serves as similar..blah, bah'...wow! WTF was that?

I'm glad Gibson didn't let her slide on that..he threw it back at her and she clung to that ridiculous response.

2) The 2nd torpedo was Gibson's question "Have traveled internationally aside from your troop visit to Iraq?"

Palin: Yeah...Canada and Mexico.

Barf! What??? Although, technically that is 'international'..yet in 21st Century terms of international travel that means usage of a passport (really going abroad)..everyone knows a vist to Tijuana (TJ) and Vancouver doesn't mean squat! Imagine Barack Obama trying to pass off Canada and Mexico as 'his international travels abroad'..the press and everyone on the planet would have a field day!

Boy...all week prepping Palin..and this is the best she could do?

And the "I'm sending my first born, my 1st son to Iraq' .. followed by 'My son has volunteered to go to combat...' wait..which is it? It's like did your daughter decide to get married or did you tell her.."you're getting married" no questions asked!?

Republicans....there's no 'EASY' button outta this one..either keep her away from the microphones (and the debate with Biden).. OR start looking for the 'PANIC' Button..brcuz this pitbull with lipstick won't hunt! Or win if she keeps talking!


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User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3149 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 16):
Quote:
The problem is that the Bush Doctrine has changed. At its inception, the doctrine stood for the proposition that the U.S. would use force preemptively if necessary to destroy terrorists and those who harbor them. It later evolved into something different --- a Democracy Project."

That certainly was the "brilliant" idea Howard tried to copy here. And then the Indonesians (presumably) mentioned, OK we have a few terrorists, whose army are you going to bring with you as ours is quite large!

Howard never quite reformulated it, but he certainly was less willing to push it. And he will forever be known as the Deputy Sheriff - to our considerable loss in SE Asia.

It will be really nice when foreign policies are planned so they can be effective and not sounded off in a speech just to sound good for home consumption.


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5869 posts, RR: 39
Reply 19, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3145 times:



Quoting BN747 (Reply 17):
"I'm sending my first born, my 1st son to Iraq'

there she was inserting her kids into the debate again...I was of the impression that the son was a ratbag and getting the illegal drugs, is that correct?

Quoting BN747 (Reply 17):
The 2nd torpedo was Gibson's question "Have traveled internationally aside from your troop visit to Iraq?"

didn't she go to Kuwait only?

what I found most disturbing is her don't blink responses, don't blink = don't think and fuck me, that's dangerous!



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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4391 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3143 times:



Quoting Tugger (Reply 16):
Boy I can't believe that some people here are so disconnected and oblivious that they don't know of the "Bush Doctrine". As to it being a creation of opponents, its not, it's been recognized for a long time and it came into play after the September 11th attacks. Put in its simplest terms it was originally defined by the policy of "preemption". It has changed and evolved as anything political does and sadly it has evolved into something much muuddier due to Iraq.

I found numerous references to it on the web and in particular in many conservative sites. A simple and good definition was this one from 2006:

Exactly. There is nothing biased about the term itself, at all. It is what you make of it. The only way it's possible to think of it as left wing propaganda is if you dont know any better, which clearly is the case for many here..



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21864 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3137 times:



Quoting L-188 (Reply 1):
It's doesn't actually exist.

The Bush Doctrine is just as much a Doctrine as any of the other _______ Doctrines that we've had.

And Palin should have heard about it, even if she does keep to Alaska.

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 14):
Uhhhh, so what is the Bush Doctrine?

Several things, but a big one is the idea that the possibility of a threat justifies a unilateral pre-emptive strike. It used to be that a pre-emptive strike (which was and still is legal) could only be justified if the enemy were clearly going to attack you (i.e. massing tanks on the border). But Iraq was attacked not on the basis that it was a clear and present threat, but on the suspicion of a threat. This puts it into the realm of a preventive strike (which isn't legal), but Bush referred to it as a pre-emptive strike.

There are other aspects: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine

-Mir



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User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1845 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 21):
And Palin should have heard about it, even if she does keep to Alaska.

Wasilla City Hall...



[Edited 2008-09-11 22:16:20]


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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5620 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3103 times:



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 19):

there she was inserting her kids into the debate again...I was of the impression that the son was a ratbag and getting the illegal drugs, is that correct?

Not sure..I've read/heard nothing about that particular kid..

..but the one being chucked into the 'shotgun' wedding..he's clearly no 'winner'..but he's just a typical redneck (his words) high school kid, who I sense wishes he never banged/knocked up her daughter.

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 19):
didn't she go to Kuwait only?

Maybe it was Kuwait (via Germany on one direction) and a refueling stop in Ireland on the return (she did try to pawn off 'that she'd visited Ireland once)...then she got called on it and haven't mentioned it again since.

BN747



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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5869 posts, RR: 39
Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3095 times:

^ I've got a feeling that Palin will soon become the democrat's best asset..  Wink


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25 Mir : The fact that it looks like a bus stop is no excuse. -Mir
26 Post contains images Flynavy : Did you want fries with your executive experience sir?
27 Post contains images Dreadnought : Which part of it? The Bush Doctrine title has been applied to several things, including 1) Treating those that harbor terrorists as terrorists 2) The
28 NIKV69 : I know they love talking points and this is so typical. That is ok not much of the DNC is. Why, it only exists in your head Monty so why should she a
29 Stretch 8 : Like it or not, this woman will be President someday.
30 D L X : Crock of spit. Conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer invented the term in 2001. (http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/2001/03/05/doctrine.h
31 MD80fanatic : I never knew it was called the Bush Doctrine. What a dumb name, and a dumb un-American doctrine. Perhaps it's best if Palin only knows enough about it
32 AGM100 : The thread should have ended right after L188 posts this. Its a term born of the left wing intelligentsia and it sounds so good over a Latte. . Intel
33 Sv7887 : It's a term like Partial Birth Abortion, a politicized term without any real meaning. The Bush Doctrine has seemingly evolved in his second term with
34 D L X : You know, left wingers like Charles Krauthammer. Dude, you and L-188 really need to do your homework before you go spouting this stuff.
35 Mdsh00 : Forget that. She asks the media not to politicize her children but yet doesn't hesitate to bring up the fact, and publicize the fact that her son is
36 RedFlyer : Interesting commentary by a lot of people on this thread. And very amusing, considering I would bet my mother that without exception (well, maybe with
37 D L X : 1) I knew, and 2) no one one this thread is running for high national office (to my knowledge). These are not excuses for her response. What's unfort
38 PPVRA : That's apalin'.. . .
39 Post contains links Baroque : I hope someone asks her how she thinks the second day of a war against Russia will go and where she will be during the first day. On negotiations, se
40 RedFlyer : I notice you didn't offer up an answer to my request. So, if YOU knew then please tell me PRECISELY what the "Bush Doctrine" is. In other words, can
41 D L X : You're asking for a precise answer to an imprecise issue. But don't hang your hat on the fact that it is imprecise - Palin should have known the basi
42 Post contains links Baroque : Does Wiki not work for you? Now you are going to complain that it is recent plant. Sorry there it is not if you look at the history. http://en.wikipe
43 N174UA : Another example of how Gov. Palin relates to most Americans...apart from those who live in Seattle, SF, LA, Chicago, DC, NY, and Miami....few America
44 Sv7887 : That's not what she said. She said if Georgia or any Eastern European state were part of NATO and were attacked, the organization is bound to act on
45 Post contains links OlegShv : I don't know if this link has already been posted here, but here it goes: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/op....html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin I
46 SKYSERVICE_330 : Isn't the 'Bush Doctrine' just another name for the foreign policy positions developed by Bush and his executive? In which case, it isn't partisan at
47 Post contains links Mir : You'd lose your mother. A lot of people (including me) have known what the Bush Doctrine is for some time. It's not a specific term - the government
48 RedFlyer : Thank you. You just proved my point. Most doctrines (e.g., Monroe Doctrine, Trumen, Powell, etc.) have a pretty concise meaning. And I believe she an
49 MBMBOS : This is getting tedious and ridiculous. A foreign policy doctrine is established when a president and his administration states the principles behind
50 Post contains links Baroque : Oh yes she did. She said that she supported admission to NATO. And if the consequence of that was war with Russia, that was fine with her. "Perhaps s
51 Sv7887 : Grasping at straws there a little. As if Mr. Obama has a clue? Gibson's question was deliberately vague. If you've been reading this thread the Bush
52 Arrow : So, run this by me again .. you attacked Iraq for what reasons? And whatever they were, they weren't pre-emptive? I can't believe I'm reading this. T
53 Post contains links Sv7887 : That is NOT what she said. You are taking quotes of context DIRECT from the Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=5782924&page=3 G
54 Beta : I don't understand the media and the Obama's supporters' obsession with this woman. I really don't. First of all, she's running for VP with a 72 yo ma
55 Mir : She addressed the standard version of pre-emption (which nobody in the world has a problem with), not the Bush Doctrine version. The key words are "i
56 JpetekYXMD80 : My God, the crap you people come up with. Really, what don't you understand? Were the terms Monroe Doctrine and Truman Doctrine created in similar fa
57 Post contains links Sv7887 : Mr. Bush's original "Get them before they Get Us" mantra was based on neutralizing opponents. Afghanistan was fair game, Iraqi on the basis of POST w
58 SKYSERVICE_330 : It amazes me the extent to which some people will simply refute alternate points by appealing to partisan political rhetoric (if I don't like it, it
59 D L X : Well, if you want to consider a straw man a point, then sure. I will grant you your straw man. Congrats! Actually, Gibson answered Palin's question.
60 Post contains links Starbuk7 : The Washington Post doesn't seem to have a definitive answer to what the bus doctrine is either!! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08091201471.h
61 D L X : RIght. To be perfectly fair, I'm much more at ease with Palin's interpretation than with Bush's. You guys have completely missed the point. The fact
62 Sv7887 : There is a difference between a 30 sec sound bite and a brief but concise outline of the main tenents of the view. Asking Palin about Bush Doctrine i
63 AGM100 : It is a term used by the press to describe the doctrine of attacking countries who sponsor and harbour terrorists. Ooooo thats bad ?. I have heard it
64 RedFlyer : What cracks me up is that if Russia were to attack an existing NATO member state, we'd be at war with them. So I don't understand why Gibson appeared
65 JpetekYXMD80 : As said, the use of this kind of term is commonplace in history to refer to the policies of Presidential administrations.
66 Sv7887 : Give me a break, so we should just sit on our hands like the rest of the world? We were attacking Afghanistan and Iraq before Mr. Bush was elected Pr
67 Dtwclipper : I am really amazed at the lengths people here will go to defend Palin's ineptitude. She was clearly uncomfortable and out of her element (hasn't anyon
68 Sv7887 : Umm that's what VPs do...You expect Biden to disagree with Obama's policies? Get a grip, you along with most of Anet doesn't like her. Get over it al
69 Post contains links Sv7887 : Mr. Gibson interviewed Senator Obama a few months ago...Different tone and pretty fluff questions: http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Story?id=5000184&page=1 He
70 Post contains links StuckInCA : What? It's the cornerstone of Bush's "defense" strategy! http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...03-16-bush-national-security_x.htm Undeterred by an e
71 QANTAS077 : does Palin know where the real power lies in Iran...don't think so because she didn't mention the ayatollahs. The GOP asked for Gibson to interview h
72 L-188 : There you go, you know what side Mr. Gibson is playing for.
73 Arrow : Check the date on that story -- it was 2002, not yesterday. At least it didn't involve a bankruptcy filing and a big airline; and it does help blow o
74 QANTAS077 : so the GOP knew all this way back when yet they still asked Gibson to do the interview, if he's not good enough then who is? shit...why even ask him
75 JpetekYXMD80 : I think L-188 should put a LEAVE SARAH ALONE!! video on youtube. He'd give Chris Crocker a run for his money.
76 Post contains links StuckInCA : Man you guys are too much. He was handpicked by the McCain camp. He didn't even ask her any really tough question. Everything that comes out on Palin
77 AGM100 : Maybe it would have been just a little more fair to do a warm and fuzzy life story piece first like he did with Sen Obama.. Can you imagine if he wou
78 Alias1024 : I'm going to side with Gov. Palin on this. You can't go to the encyclopedia or dictionary and look up the term "Bush Doctrine". If Charlie Gibson want
79 Post contains links Tugger : Wiki knows all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Presidential_doctrines 1 Presidential doctrines - - 1.1 Monroe Doctrine - - 1.2 Roosevelt
80 RSWA330 : I could care less what the Bush Doctrine is. Frankly, I never knew there was a Bush Doctrine. I looked it up and apparently it is simply a "phrase" th
81 Post contains links Sv7887 : Most of those rumors about her past have been debunked, aside from the obvious Bristol Palin saga. I posted a link to the "relatively" soft Obama int
82 D L X : ?? And what would that difference be? Absolutely wrong. Asking Palin if she agrees with the Bush Doctrine is like asking someone if they agree with A
83 AGM100 : Thanks Tugger , its good reading I guess past Presidential Doctrines are more relevant than I thought. Now why dont you go back and read them ? Prett
84 Baroque : A look at the history for the Wiki entry on the Bush Doctrine shows that the entry has been there for 6 years. Wiki is not only there, but has a hist
85 Sv7887 : Here is the exchange. She is asked "Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine" what part of it exactly? Nor does he mention it's still evolving.... GIBSON:
86 D L X : This is the PROTOTYPE of knee-jerk support for a candidate. A candidate that most of these guys had never even heard of until 2 weeks ago.
87 Tugger : Yes they are interesting and a big part of each President's history. I remember learning about the Monroe Doctrine and Roosevelt Corollary back in hi
88 BN747 : According to the post below, most Americans can relate to Palin's ineptitude..it's okay. First off, Ace, Seattle, SF, LA, Chicago, DC, NY, and Miami
89 D L X : Did you read and understand the exchange? When she didn't know what the hell Gibson was talking about, he asked her a DIFFERENT QUESTION, namely "wha
90 MBMBOS : Precisely! And amen. And we're supposed to believe she's a serious candidate for the Vice Presidency, a replacement for a potential President who is
91 RSWA330 : It is his world view. Here is the definition: Bush Doctrine:a phrase used to describe various related foreign policy principles of United States by G
92 Sv7887 : You know it's not that simple. If I understand her answer, she tried to say all options were on the table. If she had answered "Yes" they'd call her
93 Sv7887 : Again with the cancer stuff. It's SKIN cancer with a 92% cure rate, 99% when localized. Hardly serious. People have commented on the Bush Doctrine, I
94 N1120A : Does anyone else notice her petulant child shtick? She gets really pissy when she can't figure out what someone else is talking about. Reminds me of B
95 WellHung : No surprise. There are a lot of things she doesn't know about the federal government, aside from "energy", of course. Don't look for her to appear in
96 Post contains images Beta : Oh, so now Wiki is the primary source of information, the arbiter of truth and falsehood? I didn't know that I could cite Wiki as primary source in m
97 AGM100 : No nothing will happen , but we find ourselves taking incoming shots all the time about the "Bush Doctrine" . It has become such a hammer of the left
98 D L X : So, if you asked me what the RSWA330 Doctrine is, and I said "it's the Doctrine that RSWA330 thinks is correct," have I actually answered the questio
99 Sv7887 : It's not going to be skin cancer that takes McCain away...Believe me on this one. It's not lung cancer that is terrifyingly dangerous. Yes he's old a
100 D L X : I don't think you'll find a single liberal disagreeing with this statement.
101 RSWA330 : Yes you would. If i wanted a more specific answer, I would have asked a more specific question. If you want to test her, test her. At least make sure
102 Ken777 : Well, I'm an independent and consider myself a moderate, but I think Bush is a total idiot when evaluating him as President. That one picture pretty
103 D L X : Wow... I doubt I speak only for myself when I say I want a leader that doesn't think that is an acceptable answer. Oh, I see. It looks like I have fa
104 Sv7887 : Again not what she said. She simply said if NATO were to accept Georgia and Russia attacked Georgia, NATO members are obligated to do something, war,
105 Post contains images Superfly : I was expecting to here some very well thought out answers from Sarah Palin. Consiering the boys in the GOP that have been keeping her sheltered and
106 D L X : She also said NATO should accept Georgia. The inference is not a hard one to make that she is thus saying the US should go to war with Russia if Russ
107 Sv7887 : That's a stretch: Here is the exchange: GIBSON: Under the NATO treaty, wouldn’t we then have to go to war if Russia went into Georgia? PALIN: Perha
108 RedFlyer : The question of going to war over any country goes far deeper than the issue of that particular country itself. NATO was created for containment of a
109 RSWA330 : Look, I'm not trying to say she knew what the Bush Doctrine is. In short, I'm saying it was a stupid question that 95% of Americans could have cared
110 MBMBOS : That's a ridiculous statement. The principles that guide our decision to wage war changed in significant ways during the Bush Administration. It spea
111 SKYSERVICE_330 : With thousands of Americans fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq I find that hard to believe. I also do not have the vantage point of being in the US so
112 NIKV69 : This is surprising? So, whats does that matter? You think their beliefs are any different than the president's? They all want Isreal to ceast to exis
113 MBMBOS : She makes herself look bad. She looked over-coached, shallow and unable to think for herself in the interview. All her doing. She has nobody else to
114 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : I have no idea of what that is either I would've said the same thing, what the heck is the Bush "doctrine"? Is that a new set of rulers or something?
115 MIAMIx707 : The question is beyond stupid. I guess Gibson would like us all to be under Nazi rule perhaps. I suppose the so called "Bush doctrine" is really what
116 Arrow : And keep in mind that more than 4000 American soldiers died in fighting a war enabled only by this new policy. To suggest that this is not an appropr
117 MIAMIx707 : There are countless stories in the media/newspapers etc, that are crap. Here in the US at least a good 30% is crap and/or biased, just imagine in the
118 Mir : Incorrect. The Bush Doctrine says that we would be justified in bombing Iran, but it does not say that we ought to. Also incorrect. What you refer to
119 NIKV69 : One can say the same thing about your buddy Obama. He crumbled when O'Reilly called him out on his BS. As for Palin, not an issue. You see this whole
120 JpetekYXMD80 : The comedy club continues. Have you read any of this threat at all? Set of rules? Created by liberals to 'demonize'? Christ.. Tell me about it. And so
121 Ken777 : Gibson is far from a hack. His reputation as a fair and outstanding questioner goes back to the days when Palin was a teenager dreaming of beauty con
122 BN747 : No kidding..I would have loved for Gibson to pull out a map and say.. "Show me where Afghanistan and Argentina are located..." A true 'Are you smarte
123 RSWA330 : You're right. It doesn't work the other way around. Can you honestly say though, without a doubt, that Barack Obama is knowledgeable enough about for
124 Superfly : Many will deny that and find every excuse in the world to throw at Obama but will never just come out and say the real reason why they wont vote for
125 QANTAS077 : do you mind if I borrow this in the future?
126 TransIsland : Gosh, that woman is more ignorant than I had feared. Nobody denied they had a plan. However, many disagree with his plan. Strongly disagree. However,
127 MD80fanatic : Well, they have been selling crude oil when they should have been giving it to the US, for free (of course because of "divine" right). If someone was
128 BN747 : All yours bro... BN747
129 MD80fanatic : Gee whiz SuperFly, don't hold back now. It's pretty clear that you don't like the woman....but to constantly claim she is too ignorant to speak her o
130 TransIsland : The saddest thing about the United States' democracy is probably the fact that this isn't even far from the truth. The Bush administration was made p
131 Superfly : I've only knocked her on only 2 or 3 threads. Sorry but I will continue to call her out on how much she is a lightweight and nothing more than a pret
132 MD80fanatic : 10+ times on each of 2 or 3 threads. In fact, whenever I see your name on a post I can bet in it you will pound Palin's recent speech-reading at least
133 Post contains links Mham001 : I'm not reading through all of this thread, but THERE IS NO "OFFICIAL DEFINITION OF THE BUSH DOCTRINE. In fact, the man who first coined the term Bush
134 Post contains links Moderators : Please continue this discussion in one of the official election threads. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ms/non_aviation/read.main/1974362/ (re
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