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Christian Singer Ray Boltz Comes Out  
User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ct...hives/2008/09/ray_boltz_comes.html


"Ray Boltz, who sold about 4.5 million records before retiring from Christian music a few years ago, came out of the closet Friday to announce that he's gay.

In an interview with the gay magazine The Washington Blade, Boltz said he came out to his family and some close friends in December 2004, but only now decided to go public with the news.

“I’d denied it ever since I was a kid," Boltz, 55, told the magazine. "I became a Christian, I thought that was the way to deal with this and I prayed hard and tried for 30-some years and then at the end, I was just going, ‘I’m still gay. I know I am.’ And I just got to the place where I couldn’t take it anymore … when I was going through all this darkness, I thought, ‘Just end this.’”


He and his wife of 33 years divorced earlier this year and are still close.

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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2164 times:
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Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):

He and his wife of 33 years divorced earlier this year and are still close.

How sad no? I feel for his wife and all the people he might have "let down" for being in the closet. I feel for him that he had to go thru so many years of trial.

There is never any winners in situations like this. So sad. After all want that the point of Brokeback mountain?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39703 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

Never even heard of this guy.
Will is 'loyal' fans go out and burn his records & CDs like vigilantes?



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User currently offlineEICVD From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2082 times:



Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
He and his wife of 33 years divorced earlier this year and are still close.

If he knew he was gay since he was a kid why on earth did he get married!


User currently offlineAKiss20 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 603 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2047 times:



Quoting EICVD (Reply 3):
Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
He and his wife of 33 years divorced earlier this year and are still close.

If he knew he was gay since he was a kid why on earth did he get married!

Because sometimes people try and lie to themselves to the fullest extent possible in an attempt to make that lie truth. Never works though.



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2031 times:



Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 4):
Because sometimes people try and lie to themselves to the fullest extent possible in an attempt to make that lie truth.

That is one reason. Societal pressures are another reason. Hell, the reasons are many. At least he found the strength to be true to himself.

Quoting AKiss20 (Reply 4):
Never works though.

Nope.

On a side note, he is bear-ish. I'd tap it  Smile



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8408 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2027 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 1):
There is never any winners in situations like this.

I agree! But a lot of people (including many self-hating gays) still dedicate their lives to stopping gayness and trying to shame and torture gays from the beginning of their lives to the end.

Bravo to this guy for braving against those forces, which appear to have caused him much pain.


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2878 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2007 times:



Quoting EICVD (Reply 3):
If he knew he was gay since he was a kid why on earth did he get married!

The guy is 55 years old...times were MUCH different when he was younger compared to today. There are actually a few guys that I know at the bar I go to who are also in the mid-upper 50's who (to fit into society) had to live a lie for many years and be a heterosexual infront of everyone, one did live a double life though and would go for random hook-ups in the middle of the night or on business trips, etc. US culture has only started to really accept homosexuals in the last 2 decades or so compared to before when it was completely taboo. These guys I know all have ex-wives now and children (grown) and can socialize in a much more accepting environment compared to when they were young.

Also, think of what this guy puts out...CHRISTIAN MUSIC!! The people buying his product go to things like "JESUS FEST 2008" and are not very tolerant of the gay community.  angel 

I give this guy a lot of credit for doing this. He is starting an entire new life in his 50's, and potentially ruining his career...but he is doing it to be HIM. That takes a lot of guts.  praise 



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User currently offlineUSXguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1010 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

the eyes must be rolling in Franklin, Tennessee tonight!


xx
User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3253 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

That's too bad....I was just listening to one of his songs tonight on my ipod when I went for a walk. I had no idea he was going through that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzhFyNp3Ja8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB85VHP11kU
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[Edited 2008-09-16 23:16:27]


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19413 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1902 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 1):
How sad no? I feel for his wife and all the people he might have "let down" for being in the closet. I feel for him that he had to go thru so many years of trial.

You know, there have been several famous marriages in history between gay men and women who, for whatever reason, were OK just having a best friend and companion for life, rather than a sex partner. And were OK with their husbands having "other interests."

Oscar Wilde is one example. His wife HAD to have known he was gay.


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2097 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1884 times:

Here are some of the comments from christianity.com, posted by a typical cross-section of brainless brainwashed assholes who can't think for themselves.

Ted Olsen

Quote:
What can be said? We are known by the fruit we bear. So, being a great musician and exalting the Lord is not enough. Repentance is necessary. We read about a man who committed sexual sin in 1 Corinthians-the church was to reject him until he repented. Likewise, Ray should be ignored but welcomed back whenever he truly repents.

NavyMom (whose kids are obviously straight and thus righteous - well done them!)

Quote:
I really hate to hear this news about Ray Boltz.Ray and his family need much prayer from the Christians from all over the world to get through this horrible news.So many folks are decieved in thinking that God created them to be homosexual which is totally false.God creates us with a free will to choose life through him or death through the lust of the flesh and the pride of life.This lifestyle is merely a choice and nothing more.I assume Ray has read the scriptures that states in Romans 1st chapter 32nd verse,Who knowing the judgement of God,that they which commit such things are worthy of death not only do the same,but have pleasure in them that do them.You can't ignore this verse of scripture.I am not here to judge Ray or anyone else who so called "comes out of the closet".That isn't my job to judge,but it's my job to tell those that choose this lifestyle that Jesus wants them to turn from their wicked ways and repent.

JO (only complete arseholes quote Leviticus.)

Quote:
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them

God condemns it. God would not make him this why as he claims.
he chooses to be this way.
It is a choice.

What a bunch of freaks.


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1877 times:



Quoting DocLightning (Reply 11):
You know, there have been several famous marriages in history between gay men and women who, for whatever reason, were OK just having a best friend and companion for life, rather than a sex partner. And were OK with their husbands having "other interests."

I've already known of two couples with coincidentally, two sons each (all who are straight), whose husbands were homosexuals. One of the two couples were still living together. How can this work?

The divorced couple's two sons were my friends; their dad was one of the first AIDS cases in Minnesota.


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4749 posts, RR: 26
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1761 times:



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 5):
On a side note, he is bear-ish. I'd tap it

DAY-EM! COUNT ME IN!!!




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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1748 times:



Quoting MainMAN (Reply 11):
Here are some of the comments from christianity.com, posted by a typical cross-section of brainless brainwashed assholes who can't think for themselves.

Why are you spending any time on that site? Don't you have enough to complain about or are you looking for some sort of ammunition on the lines of "I was right about you fuckers all along! Assholes!"

Well. I hope all that righteous anger somehow improves your life.

It's worth remembering that the internet gave everyone a voice but it didn't guarantee that anyone would have anything worthwhile to say.


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11533 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1703 times:



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 12):
husbands were homosexuals. One of the two couples were still living together. How can this work?

Many women (and some men) are simply looking for companionship. Nothing more. Just someone to hang out with. Nothing wrong with that.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 5):
On a side note, he is bear-ish. I'd tap it

Meh... He is attractive, but not enough for me to want to tap.



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
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Quoting Seb146 (Reply 15):

Meh... He is attractive, but not enough for me to want to tap.



Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 13):
DAY-EM! COUNT ME IN!!!

Hmm Pass..

Now, when is Ricky Martin going to come out?



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1675 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 16):
Now, when is Ricky Martin going to come out?

You mean the openly Latino pop star?



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1675 times:



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 5):
On a side note, he is bear-ish. I'd tap it

he he he....

Up for a three-way??  Wink

I'm sure I've seen him at The Eagle  Smile



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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

You people are out of your freakin' minds.

I mean, go ahead and have your fun, but I can't think of anything that'd kill a stiffy faster than looking down at some big dude's hairy back. The only thing worse than that'd be if he'd had two beers and a bologna sandwich an hour earlier.


User currently offlineTylerDurden From United States of America, joined May 2008, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Pretty much makes him a

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 5):
On a side note, he is bear-ish. I'd tap it



Quoting Ryanair!!! (Reply 13):
DAY-EM! COUNT ME IN!!!

I shudder at the thought. He's old, fat, and has a turkey neck. I'd run if he even approached me!

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 5):
At least he found the strength to be true to himself.

I'm guessing he was 'just about' to be outted by some publication or a family member.... which is typically why people all of a sudden feel the great need to give and interview or a press conference.

It's hardly any noble gesture. But I'm sure the gay community will rally around his 'painful experience' and label him a true hero of gay rights...

He should have just made no explanation for his behavior...since none is needed.


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1623 times:



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 19):
You people are out of your freakin' minds.

Don't hate. Big grin Just goes to show, there is something for everyone. Chacun a son gout.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1610 times:



Quoting Mt99 (Reply 1):
I feel for his wife and all the people he might have "let down" for being in the closet.

Sounds like he and his ex-wife are still close.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 5):


On a side note, he is bear-ish. I'd tap it

Speaking for your ignorant straight audience, wouldn't the bear be doing the tapping?

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 9):
That's too bad....I was just listening to one of his songs tonight on my ipod when I went for a walk

Too bad how?

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 11):

Yes, these people are completely detached from reality in their bigoted thinking

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 11):

JO (only complete arseholes quote Leviticus.)

Especially when they do it with a mouthful of bacon



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1603 times:
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Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
Sounds like he and his ex-wife are still close.

Still.. he potentially lied to her for many years.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):

Speaking for your ignorant straight audience, wouldn't the bear be doing the tapping?

Shudder..



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1606 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
ouldn't the bear be doing the tapping?

As a bear...yes I would... Big grin

Quoting TylerDurden (Reply 20):
I'm guessing he was 'just about' to be outted by some publication or a family member.... which is typically why people all of a sudden feel the great need to give and interview or a press conference.

Look at Clay Gaiken (or is it Gay Aiken?).

Regardless of how they are 'outed', being true to yourself is important to self worth. When society ,as a whole, does away with archaic rules and labeling, people could be true, till then you get situations where people feel the need to fit in roles to suit others and not themselves.



You can't cure stupid
25 Oa260 : Very true. And here in Ireland there is alot of it especially among Men around 30-40. Things were far from easy back when they were having to make th
26 Jmc1975 : The sadness and devastation of a destroyed family unit that this event has caused, far outweighs the novelty of him being gay.
27 Mt99 : If he would not have been pressured by society to remain in the closet to begin with. Then the outcome for ALL these group of people might have been
28 MIAMIx707 : IMO those last few words is like the pot calling the kettle black You would have more credibiility in simply stating you just hate Christians for som
29 Mt99 : And that is why, he should come out. We certainly need more positive role models in the gay community. Id like to meet you despite you are a Christia
30 Dougloid : 99, you really need to get over your persecution anger and get on with the job of being who you are. I think you've got a chip on your shoulder and y
31 Mt99 : Honestly it was never my intention to sound confrontational. If it came out that way i apologize. I was just trying to keep the conversation going..
32 Dougloid : We're cool. I'm down with it and I was being a little grouchy myself. Life IS too short. After I posted to this thread I went out to meet a lady abou
33 MIAMIx707 : Now, give each other a hug
34 Dougloid : Well, maybe not this But perhaps this
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