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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5767 times:

I know many gay people here in Copenhagen who love civil aviation and i want to know if this pattern is the same in other countries...

So here is my challenge if you wish to accept it...

Who is gay and likes planes and is there anyway we can explain the link between the two??

 

[Edited 2008-09-17 02:33:05]


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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3928 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5767 times:



Quoting SKAirbus (Thread starter):
Who is gay and likes planes and is there anyway we can explain the link between the too??

Why should there be a link? I'm straight and I like planes - should there be a link there?


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5766 times:



Quoting SKAirbus (Thread starter):
Who is gay and likes planes and is there anyway we can explain the link between the too??

This is gonna be one of those 1,000 reply threads, isn't it?  Wink

I'm gay and I like planes and I will explain the link by saying that maybe gay guys have a thing for brightly coloured long metal tubes that plough through the air?

Who knows... I'm sure you'll get some good answers on here at any rate!



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5767 times:



Quoting Moo (Reply 1):
Why should there be a link? I'm straight and I like planes - should there be a link there?

Well it is just an observation i made that an unusual number of gay men like aviation.. Maybe my observation is wrong.. hence the reason i would like to discuss it, hehe



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8554 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5770 times:
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Quoting Moo (Reply 1):
I'm straight and I like planes

OMG - there are straight planespotters ?!

that is so typical of straight people to climb on every bandwagon we start Big grin



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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5760 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 4):
that is so typical of straight people to climb on every bandwagon we start

haha yes i'm sure the spectators witnessing the Wright Brothers first flight were all a bunch of raving queens  Wink



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User currently offlineVC10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1408 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5744 times:



Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 3):
Well it is just an observation i made that an unusual number of gay men like aviation

How do you know that it is unusually high number , have you checked the number of straight males who like aeroplanes so that you can compare.No I would bet you have no idea one way or another, but this is another way of getting a gay topic going

littlevc10


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4781 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5737 times:

This topic has been coming up on here for over 8 yrs...

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/non_aviation/read.main/2918

In my experience, aviation enthusiasts are much more likely to be gay than the general population. I'd say about 20-30% at a minimum. Too many times I have hooked up with someone random and found out that they are regular a.net browsers or active users!


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31679 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5718 times:

I think you are catching the wrong end of the rope......Look at it this way......There are Aviation Enthusiasts.....Some gay & some Straight.....I don't think one can Generalise.

Personally I'm straight & have yet to meet a gay Aviation enthusiast out here  Smile

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1710 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5684 times:



Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8):
Too many times I have hooked up with someone random and found out that they are regular a.net browsers or active users!

haha really? Hmm we should all upload photos and turn this into a gay dating site  Wink)

But yeah i have a group of friends here (we are all gay) that regularly go down to Kastrup to look and the planes.... funnily enough we were all at the same party once that had nothing to do with aviation...



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4320 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5604 times:

I also think 20-30% of the visitors here and aviation enthusiasts in general are gay.
Some theories;
1- Gays usually have no children, so more money and time to spend on hobby's and travelling
2- The cosmopolitan lifestyle associated with airplanes; lounges, James Bond, jetting to Acapulco, Cannes, Montserrat (yesterdays), New York, Rio and Bangkok nowadays to go shopping and see and be seen, gay icon stars like Marylin Monroe, Diana Ross, Judy Garland, Maria Callas being photographed arriving with a jet plane is something which is attracting to gays, compared to straights who usually have a more domestic lifestyle.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 9):
Personally I'm straight & have yet to meet a gay Aviation enthusiast out here

If you know 10 aviation enthousiasts I am sure you know at least 2 gay ones, without being aware of it. Most of my straight aviation friends don't even know I am gay, just because I don't feel the need to tell if it's not relevant for them. Plus in India gays are probably even more discrete.



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User currently offlineOa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26951 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5599 times:



Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 2):
I'm gay and I like planes and I will explain the link by saying that maybe gay guys have a thing for brightly coloured long metal tubes that plough through the air?

LOL.....  rotfl   rotfl 

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 9):
Personally I'm straight & have yet to meet a gay Aviation enthusiast out here  

How do you know? Do you ask them ? And even if you did would they tell you if they were? I know a few Anetters who are Gay but would never say so because of their personal circumstances.


User currently offlineKingsford From Belgium, joined Nov 2003, 427 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5599 times:

I think gay people have much more time and money in their hands (no kids and all) and so do travel more and by doing so are more attentive to planes, on-board services, latest models, airports where you see a lot of different people from different horizons, etc and at the other end, have also more time to participate this kind of forum on a regular basis. So I think time and more disposable income would be a possible explanation of a seemingly higher proportion of gays here than in the total world population.

Now, following this kind of thinking, there should be also a higher proportion of gays playing golf, hunting, rock climbing or catching rare butterfly in Sulawesi.

So, I could be talking out of my arse...

 butthead 


User currently offlineOgre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 719 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5539 times:



Quoting Kingsford (Reply 13):
I think gay people have much more time and money in their hands (no kids and all) and so do travel more and by doing so are more attentive to planes, on-board services, latest models, airports where you see a lot of different people from different horizons, etc and at the other end, have also more time to participate this kind of forum on a regular basis.

I am not sure... I think that for me it was kinda the opposite, from day 1 (as long as I can remember, that is) I liked airplanes. As a kiddie I played with airplanes, not cars.

As a result, I travel more, as I try to fly on every airline I can, every model as well, all airports, etc. So I don't think it works that way...



Sigh
User currently offlineMax999 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1039 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5536 times:

Maybe this is why...

Those planes are certainly long, hard, and fast.



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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6215 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5508 times:

I have met a lot of co-workers who are gay, however, they are not really interested in civil aviation they just like to travel (hence why they work for an airline).
I asked one of my co-workers why he became a F/A, and he said "so I could see the world"
He says that back when he started it was a glamorous job to do (certainly not anymore).
I myself love civil aviation but I have met at most 3 gay guys who like aviation. My partner and most of my friends think it is an out of the ordinary kind of hobby.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5463 times:
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Quoting Kingsford (Reply 13):
I think gay people have much more time and money in their hands (no kids and all) and so do travel more and by doing so are more attentive to planes, on-board services, latest models, airports where you see a lot of different people from different horizons, etc and at the other end, have also more time to participate this kind of forum on a regular basis. So I think time and more disposable income would be a possible explanation of a seemingly higher proportion of gays here than in the total world population.

I am straight and have no kids and fit into that statement. I know several straight a.netters that fall into that too.

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 11):
I also think 20-30% of the visitors here and aviation enthusiasts in general are gay.
Some theories;

I have noticed the same thing with railroad buffs. When I watch trains, in Missouri, I usually watch with a large group. We don't go together or anything, but it is a popular spotting area and there are usually a lot of people there. We see the same people a lot so you get to know everyone. It seems gays there are over represented in respect to their population in the area. It also seems like the gay guys talk more about passenger trains and straights talk more about freight.

Also with railroad buffs you get another kind of rail fan, the foamer; the person who has no sexuality and shows no interest in the love of people and only a love of trains.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11591 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5463 times:

I have only ever met one other aviation enthusiast. He is straight, has a wife and kids. I am horrible with names, but he is a photographer on this site from St Helens, west of PDX. That was the big PDX meet.

My partner is gay and he thinks my hobby is silly. Oh, well. He is a car enthusiest and takes his eyes and attention off the road when he sees any car made before 1975. I would say something, but I am too petrified from him swerving all over the road when it happens.

Quoting Kingsford (Reply 13):
I think time and more disposable income would be a possible explanation of a seemingly higher proportion of gays here than in the total world population

Yes, but I have been following aviation since I was 3. I first understood that I was gay when I was 11. I can count on one hand the number of times I have flown and never out of the States. I have never connected the two until I saw a similar thread to this one a few years ago on this site. So, for me, there goes that theory.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5451 times:
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Quoting Seb146 (Reply 21):
Yes, but I have been following aviation since I was 3.



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 21):
I first understood that I was gay when I was 11



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 21):
I have never connected the two until I saw a similar thread to this one a few years ago on this site

Huh? Are saying that liking airplanes makes your gay?

I went and watched airplanes land at DEN with my dad when I was little and I have always been into them, I starting like girls in "that way" when I was 10.



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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10893 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

I am not gay, I am a woman without children. I loved planes since I was very little. I used to go plane spotting with my dad from an early age. I have a lot less money than I used to I lived on 3 continents. I love Concorde (I always will). I had the chance to fly on several of them from the early days to the last days of their fabled career. I gave them a lot of my money!

I have several gay friends. They do not have a passion for airplanes at all.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineStasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3280 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5426 times:

When I was young, my mother worked for a company (Powell Electronics) across Island Avenue from the old PHL overseas terminal. My father and I would often go to pick up my mom at her office, and many times she wouldn't be ready to leave work right on time. So my father would drive down to Hog Island Road and park the car on the shoulder of the road so we could kill some time watching the airplanes land at PHL. The best times were in the summers when my parents owned a 1966 Ford Fairlane convertible. My dad would put the top down of the Fairlane and we'd sit on the top of the backseat and watch the planes come in over the river and land. Sweet memories of a much-simplier and happier time....

That is where my love affair with airliners started.

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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

Looking at some of the people you see congregating at the end of the runway at LGW and at LHR I would sincerely hope they weren't gay. They mostly dress like tramps and have an obsession with aeroplanes that far outweighs any thoughts of sex! With anyone!!

All the people I've met from here and other sites, apart from a fairly small minority, have been straight. The gay guys I have met are nice, friendly and share an enthusiasm for the hobby with no apparent desire to seduce me - shame really, I could do with an ego boost!  blush 

And finally, who the hell cares wether aviation enthusiasts are gay or not? We all get the same abuse from the idiots who drive past Myrtle Ave or the Crash Gate at LGW. We all snap away at landing/taxxiing/taking off aircraft and some of us even write the numbers down.

What I will say is, there is a preponderance of posts from the gay community in here that I think far outweighs their actual numbers. Wether it is a desire to be recognised while being incognito ( a conundrum but hey, I'm human) or just that they are far more garrolous (sp) than straight guys, I dont know.

There you go, my 4d worth.

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4922 times:

I think there is an attraction for gay guys somewhere in this enthusiasm. Of the very few crew i've worked with who've decided to 'come out' of the plane closet, there's been a solid percentage of gay guys. I have no idea why it is.


Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineCharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1331 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4941 times:

Well, it seems like most here have already said what I was about to add, so I'll just say agree with the above.

It's funny cause my partner works for an airline (Air France) but I'm the one who is the aviation enthusiast. It's like a disease, really, a virus that attacked me so bad I chose to live here while in Los Angeles for a few years:

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this was the view outside our apt...which I LOVED, although my partner really didn't care much for the noise of 744s and A346s landing right outside our balcony! Now we are living in DC so I guess I'll have to look for spotting places by IAD and DCA.

Quoting Vermeer (Reply 25):
Speaking of which, you are a Dane (+++) and an aviator enthusiast (+++), where are the pics??



Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 10):
haha really? Hmm we should all upload photos and turn this into a gay dating site

LOL! Although it would be a good deal...find a soul-mate AND a fellow spotter who'll understand your obsession at the same time!


User currently offlineBAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4912 times:



Quoting Vermeer (Reply 25):
And I am gay too, but not strictly connected with airplanes, I loved them much before I loved other men.

Same here...I was into aviation long before I even knew that there was such a thing as homosexuality, let alone that I was actually "of the gay"!!

Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 29):
The gay guys I have met are nice, friendly and share an enthusiasm for the hobby with no apparent desire to seduce me

Don't worry, it's a complete myth that we'll go for anything in a pair of slacks...sometimes we are actually quite choosey!  Wink Big grin

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be generally accepted that a large proportion of male cabin crew is gay. I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind that has been discussed and questioned ad nauseum on here, but that said, it makes me wonder what came first for them, the job, or the love of aviation? What I think I'm getting at is whether the love of aviation is just something that's in the blood, or whether it was learned. If the latter, it may explain a higher-than-average proportion of gay aviation enthusiasts...

Of course, I could just be talking complete b*llocks (I usually do!), but I thought I would just throw that out there and see what happened!

P.S. No offence intended to straight male cabin crew...I know you're out there, as I have found out to my cost in the past!  blush   silly 



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25 Post contains images Ihadapheo : I am of the opinion that the number of gay aviation fans is about the same as would be found in the general population. Now you could add a few modifi
26 797 : I always wanted to open a thread with this title. From 10 people who like planes, 5 I know are gay... how's that for a proportion? Since I realized th
27 OhTheDrama747 : I'm actually pissing myself just now. Bravo! I'm gay and I like planes. I really like the above explanation!
28 EWRCabincrew : my sentiments, too!!
29 Andaman : The only other gay aviation enthusiasts I know personally is a guy who is also a father, in a 'rainbow family' as it's called in Finland, usually mea
30 DocLightning : Can I just say, BTW, that that AC ad was sheer brilliance? I so want to shake the hand of whoever came up with that.
31 BriGuyinHou : Personally I think there is a link between a love of aviation and a love of fashion. Think about it, you get a fashion show every time you fly. "Next
32 SKAirbus : Hmmm i was cycling past Kastrup the other day on the way to Dragør (have a friend there.. and sooooo cool that i HAVE to pass the airport to go and v
33 Teme1976 : I only know one other gay aviation enthusiast in Finland unless we consider interest in business class champagne labels and handsome stewards to be so
34 Andaman : Building a perfect travel itinerary is a form of art... Just today I tried to explain my future travel companion, a gay like me but not an aviation e
35 StasisLAX : Damn, if I'd known you guys were moving, I would have put a bid in for your apartment with your property manager! I was just in the market for a new
36 Charles79 : You would've not enjoyed it, they just inked a deal to house OTIS students so it smells and feels like a dorm. Lots of cute guys, though!
37 SKAirbus : The cute guys would have sold it for me... know any? Hmmm unfortunately the only way to get close to CPH is to buy an apartment in Dragør or Tårnby
38 BlackProjects : Skids I know most of the (Tramp Camo People) its just there Spotting Clothes which are Nice and Warm and Scruffy and Heavy Dutyfor a reason. Hang arou
39 Charles79 : Well from my apt I had a clear shot to the 24 runway complex, and I spent countless hours on my balcony watching 744s, A340s, and 777s do their thing
40 Bwest : Hm, I'm one of the pink plane fans... I was gay before I really took an interest in aviation. But I guess we all were, it's not like it's a choice! (t
41 Charles79 : You mean the plane thing is a choice? Don't tell that to my partner, he thinks I'm naturally oriented to like planes!
42 SKAirbus : Don't tell those very religious people... They might try and "cure" you But well i have been interested in planes before i came out... then again i h
43 Andaman : There is a religious group in Finland which uses the term 'defragmenting' when trying to 'cure' gays, with a rather poor results it seems ,) Like a f
44 DocLightning : SO many possible responses. And SO many ways the mods could pull any one of them...
45 Teme1976 : A little off topic but the whole gay/lesbian issue is on the paper in Finland at the moment. Newly selected editor in chief was fired before she even
46 Charles79 : I wonder if one day they'll take it further and "cure" your appetite for planes. After all, we are passionate about a hobby that is killing the plane
47 SKAirbus : Haha Celine Dion... oh well i used to love a Norwegian singer called Elisbabeth Andreassen... only gay men and old women like her generally She was t
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