VC10 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1423 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6367 times:
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 3): Well it is just an observation i made that an unusual number of gay men like aviation
How do you know that it is unusually high number , have you checked the number of straight males who like aeroplanes so that you can compare.No I would bet you have no idea one way or another, but this is another way of getting a gay topic going
In my experience, aviation enthusiasts are much more likely to be gay than the general population. I'd say about 20-30% at a minimum. Too many times I have hooked up with someone random and found out that they are regular a.net browsers or active users!
SKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1912 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6307 times:
Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8): Too many times I have hooked up with someone random and found out that they are regular a.net browsers or active users!
haha really? Hmm we should all upload photos and turn this into a gay dating site )
But yeah i have a group of friends here (we are all gay) that regularly go down to Kastrup to look and the planes.... funnily enough we were all at the same party once that had nothing to do with aviation...
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6227 times:
I also think 20-30% of the visitors here and aviation enthusiasts in general are gay.
1- Gays usually have no children, so more money and time to spend on hobby's and travelling
2- The cosmopolitan lifestyle associated with airplanes; lounges, James Bond, jetting to Acapulco, Cannes, Montserrat (yesterdays), New York, Rio and Bangkok nowadays to go shopping and see and be seen, gay icon stars like Marylin Monroe, Diana Ross, Judy Garland, Maria Callas being photographed arriving with a jet plane is something which is attracting to gays, compared to straights who usually have a more domestic lifestyle.
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 9): Personally I'm straight & have yet to meet a gay Aviation enthusiast out here
If you know 10 aviation enthousiasts I am sure you know at least 2 gay ones, without being aware of it. Most of my straight aviation friends don't even know I am gay, just because I don't feel the need to tell if it's not relevant for them. Plus in India gays are probably even more discrete.
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Kingsford From Belgium, joined Nov 2003, 427 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6222 times:
I think gay people have much more time and money in their hands (no kids and all) and so do travel more and by doing so are more attentive to planes, on-board services, latest models, airports where you see a lot of different people from different horizons, etc and at the other end, have also more time to participate this kind of forum on a regular basis. So I think time and more disposable income would be a possible explanation of a seemingly higher proportion of gays here than in the total world population.
Now, following this kind of thinking, there should be also a higher proportion of gays playing golf, hunting, rock climbing or catching rare butterfly in Sulawesi.
Ogre727 From UK - England, joined Feb 2005, 728 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6162 times:
Quoting Kingsford (Reply 13): I think gay people have much more time and money in their hands (no kids and all) and so do travel more and by doing so are more attentive to planes, on-board services, latest models, airports where you see a lot of different people from different horizons, etc and at the other end, have also more time to participate this kind of forum on a regular basis.
I am not sure... I think that for me it was kinda the opposite, from day 1 (as long as I can remember, that is) I liked airplanes. As a kiddie I played with airplanes, not cars.
As a result, I travel more, as I try to fly on every airline I can, every model as well, all airports, etc. So I don't think it works that way...
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6305 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6131 times:
I have met a lot of co-workers who are gay, however, they are not really interested in civil aviation they just like to travel (hence why they work for an airline).
I asked one of my co-workers why he became a F/A, and he said "so I could see the world"
He says that back when he started it was a glamorous job to do (certainly not anymore).
I myself love civil aviation but I have met at most 3 gay guys who like aviation. My partner and most of my friends think it is an out of the ordinary kind of hobby.
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6329 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6086 times:
Quoting Kingsford (Reply 13): I think gay people have much more time and money in their hands (no kids and all) and so do travel more and by doing so are more attentive to planes, on-board services, latest models, airports where you see a lot of different people from different horizons, etc and at the other end, have also more time to participate this kind of forum on a regular basis. So I think time and more disposable income would be a possible explanation of a seemingly higher proportion of gays here than in the total world population.
I am straight and have no kids and fit into that statement. I know several straight a.netters that fall into that too.
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 11): I also think 20-30% of the visitors here and aviation enthusiasts in general are gay.
I have noticed the same thing with railroad buffs. When I watch trains, in Missouri, I usually watch with a large group. We don't go together or anything, but it is a popular spotting area and there are usually a lot of people there. We see the same people a lot so you get to know everyone. It seems gays there are over represented in respect to their population in the area. It also seems like the gay guys talk more about passenger trains and straights talk more about freight.
Also with railroad buffs you get another kind of rail fan, the foamer; the person who has no sexuality and shows no interest in the love of people and only a love of trains.
Seb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 12658 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6086 times:
I have only ever met one other aviation enthusiast. He is straight, has a wife and kids. I am horrible with names, but he is a photographer on this site from St Helens, west of PDX. That was the big PDX meet.
My partner is gay and he thinks my hobby is silly. Oh, well. He is a car enthusiest and takes his eyes and attention off the road when he sees any car made before 1975. I would say something, but I am too petrified from him swerving all over the road when it happens.
Quoting Kingsford (Reply 13): I think time and more disposable income would be a possible explanation of a seemingly higher proportion of gays here than in the total world population
Yes, but I have been following aviation since I was 3. I first understood that I was gay when I was 11. I can count on one hand the number of times I have flown and never out of the States. I have never connected the two until I saw a similar thread to this one a few years ago on this site. So, for me, there goes that theory.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 11120 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5988 times:
I am not gay, I am a woman without children. I loved planes since I was very little. I used to go plane spotting with my dad from an early age. I have a lot less money than I used to I lived on 3 continents. I love Concorde (I always will). I had the chance to fly on several of them from the early days to the last days of their fabled career. I gave them a lot of my money!
I have several gay friends. They do not have a passion for airplanes at all.
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
StasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3302 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 6049 times:
When I was young, my mother worked for a company (Powell Electronics) across Island Avenue from the old PHL overseas terminal. My father and I would often go to pick up my mom at her office, and many times she wouldn't be ready to leave work right on time. So my father would drive down to Hog Island Road and park the car on the shoulder of the road so we could kill some time watching the airplanes land at PHL. The best times were in the summers when my parents owned a 1966 Ford Fairlane convertible. My dad would put the top down of the Fairlane and we'd sit on the top of the backseat and watch the planes come in over the river and land. Sweet memories of a much-simplier and happier time....
That is where my love affair with airliners started.
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Skidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5606 times:
Looking at some of the people you see congregating at the end of the runway at LGW and at LHR I would sincerely hope they weren't gay. They mostly dress like tramps and have an obsession with aeroplanes that far outweighs any thoughts of sex! With anyone!!
All the people I've met from here and other sites, apart from a fairly small minority, have been straight. The gay guys I have met are nice, friendly and share an enthusiasm for the hobby with no apparent desire to seduce me - shame really, I could do with an ego boost!
And finally, who the hell cares wether aviation enthusiasts are gay or not? We all get the same abuse from the idiots who drive past Myrtle Ave or the Crash Gate at LGW. We all snap away at landing/taxxiing/taking off aircraft and some of us even write the numbers down.
What I will say is, there is a preponderance of posts from the gay community in here that I think far outweighs their actual numbers. Wether it is a desire to be recognised while being incognito ( a conundrum but hey, I'm human) or just that they are far more garrolous (sp) than straight guys, I dont know.
A340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4107 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5545 times:
I think there is an attraction for gay guys somewhere in this enthusiasm. Of the very few crew i've worked with who've decided to 'come out' of the plane closet, there's been a solid percentage of gay guys. I have no idea why it is.
Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
Charles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1336 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5564 times:
Well, it seems like most here have already said what I was about to add, so I'll just say agree with the above.
It's funny cause my partner works for an airline (Air France) but I'm the one who is the aviation enthusiast. It's like a disease, really, a virus that attacked me so bad I chose to live here while in Los Angeles for a few years:
Qantas at LAX
this was the view outside our apt...which I LOVED, although my partner really didn't care much for the noise of 744s and A346s landing right outside our balcony! Now we are living in DC so I guess I'll have to look for spotting places by IAD and DCA.
Quoting Vermeer (Reply 25): Speaking of which, you are a Dane (+++) and an aviator enthusiast (+++), where are the pics??
Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 10): haha really? Hmm we should all upload photos and turn this into a gay dating site
LOL! Although it would be a good deal...find a soul-mate AND a fellow spotter who'll understand your obsession at the same time!
BAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5535 times:
Quoting Vermeer (Reply 25): And I am gay too, but not strictly connected with airplanes, I loved them much before I loved other men.
Same here...I was into aviation long before I even knew that there was such a thing as homosexuality, let alone that I was actually "of the gay"!!
Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 29): The gay guys I have met are nice, friendly and share an enthusiasm for the hobby with no apparent desire to seduce me
Don't worry, it's a complete myth that we'll go for anything in a pair of slacks...sometimes we are actually quite choosey!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be generally accepted that a large proportion of male cabin crew is gay. I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind that has been discussed and questioned ad nauseum on here, but that said, it makes me wonder what came first for them, the job, or the love of aviation? What I think I'm getting at is whether the love of aviation is just something that's in the blood, or whether it was learned. If the latter, it may explain a higher-than-average proportion of gay aviation enthusiasts...
Of course, I could just be talking complete b*llocks (I usually do!), but I thought I would just throw that out there and see what happened!
P.S. No offence intended to straight male cabin crew...I know you're out there, as I have found out to my cost in the past!
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: I am of the opinion that the number of gay aviation fans is about the same as would be found in the general population. Now you could add a few modifi
: I always wanted to open a thread with this title. From 10 people who like planes, 5 I know are gay... how's that for a proportion? Since I realized th
: I'm actually pissing myself just now. Bravo! I'm gay and I like planes. I really like the above explanation!