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Texting Causes More Crashes Than Drunk Driving!  
User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

Research suggest that more accidents are caused by people texting than being the wrong side of a bottle.

How about people who are drunk while texting?  Yeah sure

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7621644.stm


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User currently offlineAirPortugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3622 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2989 times:

Thats a sure way to meet a guardrail, telephone pole, or another car

Quoting Cumulus (Thread starter):
How about people who are drunk while texting?




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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

Right I'll go and drink 8 pints and try it!!!


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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2968 times:
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Fools have obviously never heard of predictive text, I never have to look at my phone while texting and driving! Now if I could just figure out how to text while riding my motorcycle....


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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9000 posts, RR: 76
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2961 times:
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Quoting Andz (Reply 3):
Now if I could just figure out how to text while riding my motorcycle....

What about speech controlled cell phone? Or just CALL the one you want to text. Sometimes cheaper and you can say A LOT in a very short time  Wink

In Germany it is pretty expensive if you get cought using a cell phone while driving. And you get the famous "points in Flensburg".  Wink

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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2960 times:

Cell phone (phone or hands free) while driving research has been done several times with the same results. The driver's reaction time is worst than a intoxicated driver. Texting is even worst since you have to take your eyes off the road, hence several states has passed laws to stop the practice. Never understood why people (females especially) need to call someone as soon as they get into their vehicle.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2960 times:
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Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 4):
Or just CALL the one you want to text

Have you ever tried to use a cell phone while wearing a helmet?  Smile



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9000 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2925 times:
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Quoting Andz (Reply 6):
Have you ever tried to use a cell phone while wearing a helmet? Smile

Yes, those small headseats, which are earplugs with a tiny little small cable  duck 

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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2914 times:
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Quoting Cumulus (Thread starter):
Research suggest that more accidents are caused by people texting than being the wrong side of a bottle.

Sober drivers kill too. We have spent so much time pounding the drunk drivers kill into people's heads that drivers don't think anything else is bad. I blame it on the anti drinking organizations like MADD (they really want to stop all drinking). because haven't done a thing to promote the fact that any type of distracted is dangerous.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11591 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

I admit I have done this. Not for a long time, though. Since I bought my phone with the full QWERTY keyboard, I do not respond to texts until I am at a red light. I used to be able to text without looking at the phone. Washington state has a law in effect about texting while driving. I think that is a very good idea.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 5):
Never understood why people (females especially) need to call someone as soon as they get into their vehicle.

Or people that have to be on the phone at all times. There are stores here that have signs posted on the door to please finish all phone conversations outside. Very good idea!



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User currently offlineGatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2886 times:

Seems like texting affects train engineers as well...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/09/18/train.collision/index.html



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User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1847 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2869 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 9):
Washington state has a law in effect about texting while driving. I think that is a very good idea.

Talking while driving is illegal in Washington as well. I think it's a dumb law personally, because there are still tons of people who think it's fine to put on makeup, tie their ties, brush teeth, turn around and yell at their kids, etc. while behind the wheel. I'll concede that very little could actually be done to prevent those acts, but if they're legal, why can't I hold my phone?

On the flip side, I work at a cell phone store, and our Bluetooth sales have been through the roof since the hands-free law took effect. It's been good for my commission.


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13194 posts, RR: 77
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

Well considering how many stupid, self absorbed c**ts you have to avoid bumping into, just walking down the street, lost as they are in their own little worlds, no surprise here.

The idea that it is safe to talk, let alone text, while at the controls of a 1.5 - 2 ton vehicle at some 10's of mph, is so out there it's beggars belief.
While driving, you have a responsibly, to other road users, pedestrians, your irrelevant chatter should not figure here at all.

This can be reduced, since before 1967, the death toll of our roads from drink driving was awful, when the then Minister Of Transport, one Barbara Castle brought in the breathalyser she got a wave of abuse from, usually men, who deeply resented this attack on their freedom to get pissed up and then drive.
Now, it's socially unacceptable.

So with this newer issue, serious and punitive punishments are needed.
My view is, 1st offence of using a mobile when driving, 5 points on your licence and a fine starting at £1000 - plus court costs.
2nd one, a driving ban of at least 1 year, a fine starting a £2000.
What if they cannot pay? Easy, the car is confiscated and sold, still cannot pay it off, well there goes the flat screen TV, music centre...etc, until the fine is accounted for by their sale.

Cause an accident leading to a death while using a phone? Always the charge should be manslaughter.
Cause an accident leading to injury? The toughest possible charge related to driving.
(And you'll pay the compensation to the victim or their relatives, even if it takes years).

The introduction of the breathalyser in 1967, for drink drivers, hugely reduced accidents caused by this over decades, it worked.

Yes I have a mobile, but when at work, everyone who knows me also knows only to call if it is something serious, not quite as serious, well a text then.
I also manage to master the seemingly impossible (for many others), if at a show, like theatre or comedy, or a meeting, of finding this button that turns the ring to silent/vibrate.

They are technically wonderful things, and very useful, but let's be honest, how many conversations are necessary?
It seems to me that it's a case of 'I have a mobile, so I must use it'.
Why?
I've got pay as you go, I reckon I top it up, by £10-20 a time, about 6-7 times a year.


User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

It's interesting to me how texting has become so prevalent in society. It seems we do more and more to isolate and detach ourselves from the person who we actually communicate with.

For instance, I met my date last night on facebook. While we go to school, all we've done is texted and chatted online. It made me incredibly nervous to actually meet him last night in real life. It went well, but still....I just sat thinking before our date how detached we have become from everyone, yet our communications between numerous people have increased exponentially.

That being said,

I can totally see why driving and texting is probably worse than drinking and driving. I'd rather someone be drunk on the road driving and worrying like crazy that they are going to get pulled over and focusing so hard on the lines in the road than someone who is texting their friends while driving 65MPH.

I've done it, and I really try not to. It requires you to take your eyes off the road, and one hand off the wheel for an extended period of time. now, if there were a way, and I'm sure someone will find it out, to integrate your cell with your car and place a QWERTY keyboard on your steering wheel, then I'm okay with it.

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User currently offlineAustinAirport From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 643 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

Honestly, Folks, If You Cant Text Without Looking, Than Your Not Cool Enough To Text At All. I Mean Honestly.  bigthumbsup 


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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

It's taken how long to figure this out??  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2800 times:



Quoting AirPortugal310 (Reply 1):
Thats a sure way to meet a guardrail, telephone pole, or another car

I almost did that in 2000 on my way to Seattle via Tacoma on WA16...about 2-3 miles to the I-5 interchange. Luckly, I didn't run anyone off the road. I have not texted while driving since, thank goodness!

Quoting AustinAirport (Reply 14):
Honestly, Folks, If You Cant Text Without Looking, Than Your Not Cool Enough To Text At All. I Mean Honestly.

It is not safe to do that, period.



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User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Even though I text and make calls with my mobile  ashamed  , I do wish that we would ban the damn things from driving. Honestly, if you really pay attention and watch others on the road, the people who are on their phones seem to be in a completely other world and have no clue whats going on around them, or they just don't care.

Mobile phones drivers are the worst offenders for .....

- driving to slow
- going through yellow and red lights
- drifting from lane to lane
- sitting their when the light goes green
- not using signal lights
- not stopping for pedistrians when they are already in the middle of a crosswalk
- going through stop signs
- not yielding to the right of way
- etc., etc.



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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2751 times:



Quoting Andz (Reply 6):
Have you ever tried to use a cell phone while wearing a helmet?  

And riding a motorbike with one hand is safe?!



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User currently offlineHowSwedeitis From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2738 times:
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Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 11):
I think it's a dumb law personally, because there are still tons of people who think it's fine to put on makeup, tie their ties, brush teeth, turn around and yell at their kids, etc. while behind the wheel. I'll concede that very little could actually be done to prevent those acts, but if they're legal, why can't I hold my phone?

ALL distracted driving should be illegal. Drinking is fine, but makeup, phones, etc. should be illegal.

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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2734 times:
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Quoting Cumulus (Reply 18):
And riding a motorbike with one hand is safe?!

Removing tongue from cheek....



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User currently offlineHowSwedeitis From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2735 times:
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Quoting Cumulus (Reply 18):
And riding a motorbike with one hand is safe?!

How about this guy?:  Wow!

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_vids/text_messaging_motorcycle.htm

-HSII  Smile



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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2735 times:



Quoting Andz (Reply 20):
Removing tongue from cheek....

Sounds painful with a crash helmet on!



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9000 posts, RR: 76
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2731 times:
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Quoting HowSwedeitis (Reply 21):
How about this guy?: Wow!

 rotfl   bigthumbsup  That's what I call relaxed  Wink

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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4121 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2711 times:



Quoting Ual747 (Reply 13):
It requires you to take your eyes off the road,

So does looking at the speedo, rev counter, satnav, changing the radio station, putting a CD in etc.

Quoting GDB (Reply 12):
The idea that it is safe to talk, let alone text, while at the controls of a 1.5 - 2 ton vehicle at some 10's of mph, is so out there it's beggars belief.
While driving, you have a responsibly, to other road users, pedestrians, your irrelevant chatter should not figure here at all.

So what, you want to ban having more than one person in a vehicle aswell? How about the radio, all that talking and advertising is enough to cause anybody to crash...  Yeah sure


I'm honestly more concerned about the old biddy in front, doing 33mph in a 60 zone, or the BMW driving three inches from my rear bumper, than somebody who could essentially just be acknowledging a text with "ok".


25 AirframeAS : That is a part of the driving tasks, and it is also required. Getting into the habit of quick glances at this improves your driving ability and matur
26 GDB : That's rubbish, as extensive tests have PROVED that operating a mobile while driving, either voice or text, is much more distracting then talking to
27 ACDC8 : I love how people compare to talking on a phone to the same as talking to a passenger. Or texting on the phone is the same as looking at your speedome
28 Post contains links Don81603 : What gets me is, people calling for making this illegal, and that illegal while driving. In Canada anyway, all these issues are already addressed by c
29 ACDC8 : No they haven't. Do you honestly think that they RCMP can actually enforce those "laws"? Good luck on that. They can pull you over but unless you're
30 Don81603 : The issues have been addressed. The fact that they are virtually unenforced is another matter altogether. Instead of creating basically the same laws
31 ACDC8 : They have not been addressed. They have been discussed and these laws or rather suggestions are the by-products of these discusssions. BC has new law
32 RobertNL070 : Agree with you totally. If it's any comfort, we have those here too
33 Arsenal@LHR : Looking at the speedo is relevant when driving, texting is not. Changing the radio station takes one flick of a button without having to take your ey
34 Planesarecool : I've managed to send enough "ok" texts in my time without even taking my eyes of the road - the same way I don't need to look at the gear stick, the
35 Mirrodie : Was a study really needed to point the obvious? There are far less drunk drivers on the road to begin with. There are thousands more people out there
36 Andz : I believe that in the UK it is also illegal to eat or drink while you are driving. Anywhere else?
37 Don81603 : It is illegal in Canada as well, but seldom, if ever enforced. Actually, anything that diverts your attention from driving is illegal. The problem is
38 ACDC8 : Its more interpretation of said laws. There is no clear indication of what is defined as driving with undue care or attention thus there can be no en
39 Post contains links Don81603 : It's one of those laws that while still on the books, has not kept up with progress. I searched online, but can't find the actual statute at the mome
40 GDB : Planesarecool, you are displaying almost childish 'logic' here, so what that I've done wrong, he's done this! You are trying to defend what cannot be
41 Planesarecool : Well in that case, it's me and probably 95% of other road users that are 'selfish c*nts'. Are you honestly saying you've never strayed over the speed
42 GDB : I did not notice 95% of drivers using mobiles today, (thinking of this thread, I did look). Agreed it's too widespread, but I've generally noticed a l
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