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DL Employee Killed In Train Crash - Cell Lives On  
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Posted (6 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

In a very tragic and strange story, a 20 year employee of DL here in Los Angeles named Chuck (last name withheld), who worked both as a CSR and ramper over the years, was killed in the horrible train wreck recently. He was in the very front of the train, in one of the front seats, and was killed instantly, as were many around him. Throughout the train, many were killed, hundreds were injured, some of them maimed for life or not expected to pull through at all. One of the worst train wrecks in American history. RIP.

He was on his way to Simi Valley, to be picked up by his fiancee who was taking him to Van Nuys Airport to interview for a new job, as he wanted to live closer to her and work nearby.

Now the strange part…

His cell phone kept calling his family. First, it called his son. Then, whenever anyone called the phone to see if he was okay, it would answer after ringing. Static would be heard, then silence. Within 30-45 seconds, the person who called would then get called back, by his cell phone. Again, static, then silence.

Family members and friends were holding out hope that he was alive and trapped inside, and was possible only able to use the "talk" button. All night, they thought he might be alive, and kept calling the fire department to tell them he was trapped in the train.

Finally at about 4AM the morning after the crash, the fire department called Chuck's sister back and confirmed he had in fact died instantly when the train crashed, over 12 hours earlier. There as no way that someone else had found the phone either and was pranking the family (an early theory), as anyone who was near him on the train would have been dead or severely injured, and that area of the train then caught fire.

It's a bizarre story, still unexplained. The cell phone company has no answers, but the going theory is the phone was damaged in such a way that it was spontaneously calling the last number that called the phone. When a new person calls, it resets and does it again.

Again, RIP, Chuck.


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User currently offlineWunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2641 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Thread starter):
Again, RIP, Chuck.

Indeed.

As a rail enthusiast, I am doubly saddened by the Metrolink tragedy.

I hope we can learn from the disaster and increase operational safety in the near future.


User currently offlineOvrpowrd727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

its always sobering to hear a story like that...

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (6 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2515 times:



Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 2):
I hope we can learn from the disaster and increase operational safety in the near future.

What's sad is the the technology is there to prevent these things. When you look at the technology within aircraft cockpits to warn pilots of danger and automatically correct in case of impending collision, it's silly not to have this technology in passenger trains.

The Bush administration was on the side of the rail industry who said it was "too expensive" and "untested." Whatever.

And of course, the train engineers don't want computers overriding them either.

Honestly, trains can be run completely by computer, with the engineers there as a fail safe. As it stands right now, it's the other way around, and the fail safe isn't very strong.

In this case, a very simple mechanism that sets off a loud alarm and flashes a light at the engineer when a signal is missed would have saved countless lives...  Sad



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User currently offlineOvrpowrd727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2455 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
Bush administration was on the side of the rail industry who said it was "too expensive" and "untested." Whatever

unfortunatley sometimes safety is sacrificed because of finances, then it bites them in the rear and then... we all know what has happened


User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 1653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2386 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
The Bush administration was on the side of the rail industry who said it was "too expensive" and "untested."

Much like the aviation industry it takes loss of life before any improvements are implemented.



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User currently offlineOvrpowrd727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

The Tombstone technique...it's been around since the inception of powered flight...some things just won't change

User currently offlineDantiger From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2183 times:

The cell phone company has no answers, but the going theory is the phone was damaged in such a way that it was spontaneously calling the last number that called the phone. When a new person calls, it resets and does it again. IK I borrowed your phone company theory to add or debunk this hypothesis.
I spoke to a good friend who works as one of the very top electronic engineers for Verizon. He said there is absolutely no way the phone itself could have recognized the numbers of different people calling. Caller ID runs on a principal that a phone number has to be viewed by a person and then, here comes the creepy part, must be manually set to recall the last number called. He said there is no cell phone on the market at this time that can accomplish this operation without human assistance.
His work has been connected to R&D for some time and their people know exactly what is available and even what other manufacturers are researching. I live south of Los Angeles and about forty miles from the crash site and know the area well. The rock formations on the cliffs right next to the track were thought to be a sacred Indian holy site and have odd magnetic and terrestrial effects.
Last is that the engineer was gay and his lover, who had AIDS, recently hung himself in their cabin in the wooded town of Crestline. Many friends are now saying he had not recovered from finding his mate swinging from a beam in their A-Frame cabin and feel his grieving was being held inside and would not discuss the terrible shock and sorrow with even his closest friends.
So many questions emanate from this tragedy.


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2183 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
What's sad is the the technology is there to prevent these things. When you look at the technology within aircraft cockpits to warn pilots of danger and automatically correct in case of impending collision, it's silly not to have this technology in passenger trains.

I'm sorry but you can't blame technology that could have saved lives given that the accident appears to be caused by using personal technology that anyone w/ common sense should know shouldn't be used in this situation. It's a crying shame the train operator took so many innocent lives with him.


User currently offlineHowSwedeitis From Sweden, joined Jul 2007, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1915 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Thread starter):
First, it called his son.

If the guy was 20, how old was his son? ...who has a mobile phone... Also, are there any links to this story? I am not trying to make light of the situation, but after such events, (especially 9/11) numerous stories flood the internet that are either falsified, exaggerated, or just not true at all.

Now, if this story is true, the explanation can be that there was a glitch in the telephone; it was more than likely damaged in the accident. I highly doubt his "ghost" was calling his family.

Quoting Dantiger (Reply 7):
The rock formations on the cliffs right next to the track were thought to be a sacred Indian holy site and have odd magnetic and terrestrial effects.

Quick, somebody call agents Mulder & Scully.  sarcastic 

-HSII



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User currently offlineDragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1907 times:



Quoting HowSwedeitis (Reply 9):
If the guy was 20, how old was his son? ...who has a mobile phone... Also, are there any links to this story? I am not trying to make light of the situation, but after such events, (especially 9/11) numerous stories flood the internet that are either falsified, exaggerated, or just not true at all.

The guy was 49. Original poster said 20 year employee of Delta, meaning he worked there for 20 years I believe.

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