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Informal Poll: OJ Simpson, Guilty Or Not Guilty?  
User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

In the present armed robbery/kidnaping case in Las Vegas. Not the other one.

I think the good people of the Silver State are going to hand da Juice his ass, all neatly wrapped up in a brown paper bag.

Here's some light reading.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedi...-na-oj20-2008sep20,0,1390166.story

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/fashion/21dunne.html?em

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User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

I really don't care if he is or isn't. I just want those stupid helicopters to stop hovering over my school..


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User currently onlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8150 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

Guilty. And even if he isn't, he's had slammer time long since coming. Time to squeeze the juice for good.


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User currently offlineDukeofDashes From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2107 times:



Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 2):
Guilty. And even if he isn't, he's had slammer time long since coming. Time to squeeze the juice for good.

[checkmark] Even if the .001% chance that he didn't kill his ex-wife and her man-friend was, in fact, the truth, O.J. has been really class-less since the trial. It'd be fun to see him go to jail, if nothing else, for being an asshole.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21625 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2095 times:



Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 1):
I really don't care if he is or isn't.

 checkmark  This may be one time where I'm thankful there is an election going on, otherwise the news would be all-O.J., all the time. I don't understand the fascination with this guy.

-Mir



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25358 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

Let the jury do its job by hearing the case and the specifics of any evidence against him.

As a.net members its silly to pronounce his guilt or innocence based simply on media reporting which have made this gray case into a much more sensational media circus.



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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2798 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

The jury swore to forget about the murder trial. . . the defense lawyer for OJ has also reminded them to forget about the trial. However I really think that the trial will work against him when the jury makes their decision.

User currently offlinePar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7202 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2047 times:



Quoting Elite (Reply 6):
The jury swore to forget about the murder trial. . . the defense lawyer for OJ has also reminded them to forget about the trial. However I really think that the trial will work against him when the jury makes their decision.

How will you know if they are lying, but it does make us feel better to say they promised a fair trial, there can be no such thing in his case. Innocent because they believe they cannot seperate their feelings over the murder tiral, guilty because they beleive he escaped in the murder trial. However, they did swear to forget the murder trial, so all is well.

Cheers


User currently offlineRonglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

dougloid:

As I read the title of this thread, I was surprised that you, as a lawyer, would pose such a question.

As I read down through the replies, I find that "LAXintl" (Reply 5) says it all for me.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2004 times:



Quoting Elite (Reply 6):
However I really think that the trial will work against him when the jury makes their decision.

Hell YES! I agree with you. They are already biased anyway. They know who OJ is. Some celebrities just cannot get out of the spotlight. Hopefully this will do some good to OJ and finally fade away...............in a jail cell!

If they find him guilty, which I hope they do.....throw him in the SuperMax. I dont think anyone has gotten out of there alive....yet... Except Susan McDougall when she was there for a year in Colorado. (Or was it some other SuperMax prison??)



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (5 years 12 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1990 times:

I know it doesn't have to do with the "other" case, but I believe OJ Simpson has been guilty ever since the day he killed his ex-wife.

User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 1917 times:



Quoting Ronglimeng (Reply 8):
dougloid:

As I read the title of this thread, I was surprised that you, as a lawyer, would pose such a question.

I'm interested in what people think about the great non issues of the day, particularly how they formulate conclusions about things that are in my line of work.

I then ventured to essay what I thought the outcome would be.

As a point of information, the much ballyhooed "presumption of innocence" is not all it's cracked up to be. Most people who bleat about it don't seem to understand that all it means is that first, it does not attach until the jury is seated and sworn, and second that if reasonable doubt is there the defendant must walk free. At least that's how it plays out in the American legal system.


User currently offlineRonglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1869 times:



Quoting Dougloid (Reply 11):
I'm interested in what people think about the great non issues of the day, particularly how they formulate conclusions about things that are in my line of work.

Okay, fair enough, but I still like LAXIntl's comment on pronouncing guilt or innocence based on media reporting.

I'm interested in your comments on the "presumption of innocence". It always seems strange to me that we can keep "innocent" people locked up for months wearing orange coveralls waiting for a trial date.


User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1860 times:



Quoting Dougloid (Thread starter):
I think the good people of the Silver State are going to hand da Juice his ass, all neatly wrapped up in a brown paper bag.

I think you are probably right, but he will only be convicted on a few charges, and acquitted of the rest, thus limiting the maximum penalty he can receive. Those articles are so poorly written, that I thought they might be from spoof site, initially.



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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1856 times:



Quoting Ronglimeng (Reply 12):
I'm interested in your comments on the "presumption of innocence". It always seems strange to me that we can keep "innocent" people locked up for months wearing orange coveralls waiting for a trial date.

Your justice system and ours are a little different. The presumption of innocence is written right into the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, Art. 11(d). That document looks like it owes a fair amount to our Bill of Rights and some of the other amendments-as well it should.

In our system the 'presumption of innocence' means only that in a criminal prosecution where the jury is seated and sworn, if there's reasonable doubt as to guilt the defendant must walk free. It's the thumb on the butcher's scale so to speak. Many people misinterpret it to mean that they're entitled to that default provision every step of the way. It's not so.
When I have some spare time I may well take a journey thru some of your court opinions and see how they handle this.


User currently offlineHapppyLandings From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1821 times:

I have always thought he was guilty.... Still do...


Just to answer the OP's question and not offer any other opinion.


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1809 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 10):
know it doesn't have to do with the "other" case, but I believe OJ Simpson has been guilty ever since the day he killed his ex-wife.

Below is all you can really do too...

Quoting HapppyLandings (Reply 15):
I have always thought he was guilty.... Still do...

Thought or Think.. ..because none of you were there.


I say this because as a local with other info vs the media and opinions.. there was a whole lot more to the murder case than the public could ever know. I'd say that of all known info about/related to this case totals only about 35% of what really occurred.


Before you flame..ask yourself this, "Has there ever been a nationwide sensational case' that the nation only 'heard' the surface of the story... the exact same thing here.

BN747

[Edited 2008-09-24 20:42:04]


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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1803 times:



Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
I say this because as a local with other info vs the media and opinions.. there was a whole lot more to the murder case than the public could ever know

Don't be coy....spit it out.


User currently offlineHapppyLandings From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1792 times:



Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
Thought or Think.. ..because none of you were there.

That is why i said I "think" not "know".....


I may be wrong.... I am not claiming to be all knowing...


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5613 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1791 times:



Quoting HapppyLandings (Reply 18):
That is why i said I "think" not "know".....


I may be wrong.... I am not claiming to be all knowing...

And that is why I quoted your accurate statement Happy...for those 'WHO DO KNOW' happened.


BN747



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User currently offlineSleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2046 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1741 times:

Guilty in California, guilty in Nevada.


II Cor. 4:17-18
User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1736 times:



Quoting BN747 (Reply 16):
Thought or Think.. ..because none of you were there.

Neither were you, and for us to be satisfied to rest with the decision from years ago would be naive.


User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1726 times:

Guilty!


I'm Zippyjet & I approve of this message!
User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1701 times:



Quoting Sleekjet (Reply 20):
Guilty in California, guilty in Nevada.

Even guilty on Uranus, too!  rotfl 



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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1698 times:



Quoting Dougloid (Thread starter):
I think the good people of the Silver State are going to hand da Juice his ass, all neatly wrapped up in a brown paper bag.

Agreed.

The USDA has been waiting for a second chance for a long time. They won't settle for anything less then the maximum sentence, and they sure as hell won't screw this trial up.



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25 DocLightning : You know, how many times does one man get accused of something before you start to go "hmmm..." What is wrong with him, anyway? I think he has frontal
26 BN747 : Never said I was, but I'm a lot closer to the occurrence than you were and followed the related information/speculation (published and unpublished) t
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