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16 Yr Old Murders For $6  
User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5486 posts, RR: 51
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17590034/detail.html

Alan Michael Tanguay, 16, is accused of killing and nearly decapitating his neighbor. He was arrested for allegedly killing Patricia Kaliszeski Friday night while trying to steal $6 from her home for beer money.

F'ing unreal!! I hope he never see's the light of day again!

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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8625 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

Very sad. I hope he gets mental help and the death penalty or life in prison. I am very ashamed that someone would do that for $6 freaking dollars. Either hes insane or mentally ill.

Hunter



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User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2404 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

This is sad and discusting. The thing that popped into my head is the murder that happend in my town in California earlyer this year. A teenager killed another over a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship.

http://maderatribune.com/news/newsview.asp?c=234080



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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2061 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 1):
Very sad. I hope he gets mental help and the death penalty or life in prison. I am very ashamed that someone would do that for $6 freaking dollars. Either hes insane or mentally ill.

LOL, how's Mental help and the death penalty going to do him any good? Life in prison perhaps he'd get some mental help, but no reason to condition him to go back into society.

He's a minor, and he won't get much time for this I doubt, unless he's tried as an adult, which seems to be up in the air at this point.

UAL


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

Just out of curiosity.... what was the $6 supposed to be for??


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User currently offlineIhadapheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6027 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2052 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
Just out of curiosity.... what was the $6 supposed to be for??

As stated in the thread starter and in the link

Quoting Dazed767 (Thread starter):
He was arrested for allegedly killing Patricia Kaliszeski Friday night while trying to steal $6 from her home for beer money.

IHAP

He needed a few 40 oz ers



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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2052 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 4):
what was the $6 supposed to be for??

Beer... He must have been having the DT's. It happens. DT's can do crazy things to a person you know.

UAL


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2046 times:



Quoting Ihadapheo (Reply 5):
As stated in the thread starter and in the link

My bad. I missed that part.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8625 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2034 times:



Quoting Ual747 (Reply 3):

He's a minor, and he won't get much time for this I doubt, unless he's tried as an adult, which seems to be up in the air at this point.

Per my local news paper:

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbc...80930/NEWS01/809300325/1009/news03

If hes killed other people like hes claimed, then he will most likely be tried as an adult.

Hunter



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User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3292 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1946 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 1):
I hope he gets mental help and the death penalty or life in prison.

Mental help and the death penalty? Ever heard of not guilty by reason of insanity?



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User currently offlineMaidensgator From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 945 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1938 times:



Quoting Ual747 (Reply 3):
He's a minor, and he won't get much time for this I doubt, unless he's tried as an adult, which seems to be up in the air at this point.

In Florida he'll get 25 to life at a minimum... And he'll do at least 25...



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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2032 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1897 times:



Quoting Maidensgator (Reply 12):

His parents should keep him company.



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User currently offlineAg92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

If I was a judge, I would not give him a death sentance or a life sentance rather I think it would really help if you give him some sort of mental therapy or some other sort of classes to try and get over his problem and maybe many years in jail but certainly not for life

User currently offlineLHboyatDTW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

That is crazy. Putting the fact that he claimed to have murdered others aside, he could easily get a job flipping burgers or whatever physically demanding job for an hour and get more than that.

The crazy things people do to get money sheesh.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 18675 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

Well, let's see. He's a HS drop-out who just killed someone for beer money.

Now, teenagers are not exactly known for their exceptional decision-making skills. They often do stupid things in the heat of the moment because their brains are not mature enough to make the same intelligent, adult decisions that they ARE capable of making in less heated conditions. And this is why teenagers sometimes do stupid stuff like this.

That said, the vast majority of teenagers manage to get through their teen years without murdering. Basically, my theory is that this kid appears to have been born with a bad brain. There's no cure for it. Mental help isn't going to help fix a defective brain.

My view is that in cases like this, the defendant should be permitted to choose between life in prison and the death penalty.


User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

DocLightning,

Teenagers also tend to be rather unempathetic compared to adults as well.


Blackbird


User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2659 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1837 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 1):
I am very ashamed that someone would do that for $6 freaking dollars.


The money doesn't make it any more heinous. There should be no amount that would necessitate killing.....especially one's own mother.

Eye for an eye......


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1820 times:



Quoting TheCol (Reply 12):
His parents should keep him company.

What a terrible idea. Perhaps we should jail all his teachers now? Or his neighbors? The kid is sick in the head so we should punish his parents, just for being his parents?

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 17):
Eye for an eye......

Makes the Whole World Go Blind - Mohandas K. Gandhi



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User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2659 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1819 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 17):
Eye for an eye......

Makes the Whole World Go Blind - Mohandas K. Gandhi

"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time" - Dano, Hawaii 5-0


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1816 times:



Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 19):
"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time" - Dano, Hawaii 5-0

Doing time has nothing to do with that quote. Then again, a fictitious character from a TV show isn't exactly the man who helped liberate an entire sub-continent by making salt and fasting.



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User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2659 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1804 times:

Okay, now you have forced my hand......

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...y.php?storyId=95037166&ft=1&f=1004

Obviously his famous words have had little real impact on Indian society. This is not an isolated example either. Noble and Idealistic words, but the original speaker is only human (not a Deity, who coined "eye for an eye"). This is wisdom far older (and more common sensical IMO) than anything envisioned since.

Ghandi assumes all people can do nothing but poke eyes out....that none can resist the temptation to do wrong. I don't believe that. Some do rise above the heartless cruelty that some inflict.


User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

MD80fanatic,

The eye for an eye tooth for a tooth thing largely descended off of Hammurabi's code. That predated the Old Testament.


Blackbird


User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2659 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1792 times:

The exact time a saying is first conceived/uttered is always before the first time it was recorded in writing. The concept is far older than any book.

User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1792 times:

MD80fanatic,

Well, that's true. I'm glad you realized though that the concept predates any book including the Bible.


Blackbird


25 Post contains images MD80fanatic : Oh sure I realize it. Look, I don't worship a book or attach any special importance to the actual physical object. The concepts contained therein, as
26 Johns624 : Alex Tanguay-NHL hockey player? It was the next door neighbor.
27 ANITIX87 : Maybe, but the whole name rings the hypothetical bell. Alan Michael Tanguay....very bizarre. TIS
28 N1120A : That has nothing to do with it. Not those who then inflict the same upon them. It has become blatantly obvious that the death penalty is anything but
29 A332 : Yeah, let's go ahead and encourage more lunatics to walk the streets under the presumption that they have simply lost their way... people like John C
30 MD80fanatic : I can't speak for you....but it certainly deters me. If you believe as you state, then you must also believe that Mutually Assured Destruction is not
31 N1120A : I would assume you were not predisposed to this sort of thing in the first place. That said, the vast majority of research shows that the death penal
32 MD80fanatic : I'd never personally kill other than to prevent me being killed, and that is natural to all of us. And I don't believe the research you consider the
33 N1120A : Um, why? Probably the best evidence of why you are dead wrong is that Texas has an above average murder rate despite having the highest execution rat
34 AirframeAS : Doesn't Texas have the highest murder rates in the U.S.?? (Not including state sponsored executions.)
35 A332 : What do you believe would be an effective deterrent? I personally believe the appeals process is too long. The death penalty needs to be carried out
36 N1120A : You know, this whole death penalty debate is moot anyway, seeing that 16 year old offenders cannot be executed. Increase in education and reduction in
37 MD80fanatic : The numbers you site include the addition of murders committed by illegals that have streamed across continually for years. Illegals are not put to d
38 TylerDurden : Not the sharpest crayon in the box.
39 N1120A : No it doesn't. Your own personal fear of the death penalty doesn't bear on the rest of society. Further, the vast majority of people don't kill other
40 TheCol : Why? It wasn't their job to raise him. And you know this how? Last time I checked, you weren't a certified Psychiatrist.
41 MD80fanatic : So you are saying the vast majority are insane rather than not? You only get away with this "statistic" by expanding largely the accepted definition
42 N1120A : Crimes are committed by the children of parents who do everything they can to raise their children the best they can. Should Mike Huckabee be put in
43 MD80fanatic : I agree if you mean the "state" doing the execution. That really does not set the balance straight, the balance of justice. What would probably be be
44 A332 : Right, because all those convicted of the most heinous crimes were poor and/or uneducated... quite far from it. There are plenty. If someone pleads g
45 N1120A : That is just as heinous as the murder in the first place. The vast majority of those in prisons come from poor backgrounds. First, the vast, vast maj
46 A332 : Your claim was that there are never cases where there is no doubt... that is an incorrect statement.
47 MD80fanatic : But what if the victim's family chose to have mercy, and decide life in prison with full rehabilitation a better balance of justice? When you think a
48 N1120A : It doesn't matter. It is not up to individuals to decide another's fate And that is not how things work. Laws are set up to preserve the sanctity of
49 Allstarflyer : For once, MCO isn't far off. Depriving him of breath means depriving him of hope of ever seeing light of day to possibly do anything like this again.
50 N1120A : Huh? The people, those that form the government, decide the fate of the accused, not individuals. And that has absolutely nothing to do with my post.
51 MCOflyer : Guys, I know her twin brother. Very nice family and its sad you have scum bags that do this stuff over worthless stuff. Hunter
52 Allstarflyer : People (that form the government) . . . individuals (which comprise the people that form the government). . . synonymous, of course. Let's see . . .
53 MD80fanatic : It looks like you have a lot to respond to, so I will keep this short..... Isn't that what happens to the original victim? The murderer decides the f
54 AirCop : I have.. I believe one has to be at least 17 years of age at the time of the crime to receive the death penalty. Who's twin brother? Never had a murd
55 MIAMIx707 : Teens these days are nuts. The other day some 16 year old from the Tampa area raped and then beat a girl that was dropping off books in the local libr
56 N1120A : They aren't synonymous, and that you think so is ridiculous Actually, I'm not. If he his truly clinically insane, then he should be acquitted and com
57 DocLightning : What are you ashamed of? Did you have anything to do with it? I mean you could be ashamed of that pic of you with the lotion (love ya, MCO! ) but thi
58 AirframeAS : I remember hearing that Texas executed an Illegal not too long ago, who became the first Illegal to die here in the USA.
59 Post contains images Allstarflyer : People, individuals . . . semantics are such a bother for lawyers.    He's either guilty or he's innocent. Any deflection is to keep him from being
60 TheCol : So, in your opinion, Terry Driver should be considered insane as well? It wasn't his fault his son had a mental issue. However, this kid hasn't been
61 N1120A : Um, the Supreme Court sets the precedent. While Stare decisis may factor into their minds, there is no obligation whatsoever for such a thing when ta
62 Allstarflyer : People, made up of individual persons . . . time to sharpen the blade there, counselor, it's a bit more dull than usual. Crime is committed . . . opt
63 TheCol : I agree that it is a possibility, but no diagnosis has been put forward as of yet. Just because a person is diagnosed with a mental problem, doesn't
64 N1120A : Ugh. You really don't get this. Did you even read the history of those posts? That isn't how the law works. No. The people, as a collective and repre
65 Sovietjet : I say kill him..........
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