YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2119 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1402 times:
Led Zeppelin are re-uniting with John Bonham's son on the drums but Robert Plant is refusing to join the party for at least two years. They are looking for a lead singer.
Our local rock station Rock101 had a phone in with suggestions - which ranged from the expected to random including Paul Rodgers, Roger Hodgson & Burton Cummings. They also played a version of Black Dog with Ann Wilson of Heart singing the vocals. I have to confess it sounded very good, but to me it feels kinda wrong to have a woman singing where Plant should be.
Saying that, I can think of few alternatives. What do you think???
KAUST From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 91 posts, RR: 27 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1401 times:
Honestly, I think it'd be a real slap in the face. It is against the whole Led Zeppelin principle of no longer touring/recording after Bonzo's death. So now they'd go on with a different lead singer? As much as Bonzo meant to the band, imagine them with no Robert Plant!
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StuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1785 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1393 times:
Well. It sure as hell isn't Led Zeppelin if Robert Plant isn't there.
Vikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 8313 posts, RR: 28 Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1388 times:
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Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 2): Well. It sure as hell isn't Led Zeppelin if Robert Plant isn't there.
Pretty much.
Although, to be fair, I don't particularly care if they want to tour under the moniker "Led Zeppelin" even without Plant. I just probably won't go see them.
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StasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3270 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1388 times:
Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 2): Well. It sure as hell isn't Led Zeppelin if Robert Plant isn't there
Completely agree.
Although, if they're truly going to tour without Plant, Brett Scallions would be awesome on vocals.
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HapppyLandings From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1377 times:
Simple answer is:::: There is no Zeppelin without Bonham, Page or Plant....Jason Bonham will do, but not without Plant... To suggest anything otherwise is a travesty...
Sprout5199 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1783 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1365 times:
Quoting HapppyLandings (Reply 5): There is no Zeppelin without Bonham, Page or Plant....
Don't forget Jones. He was a BIG part of the Zeppelin sound. Doesn't get the credit that is due to him.
MD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2637 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1361 times:
I saw Zep in the Frank Erwin Center on UTexas campus several years ago, with Bonham's son on drums. Excellent show.....made up for the original tour stop I unfortunately missed in Houston....back in the late seventies, early eighties.
However.....I think getting a new vocalist is a bad idea. If it's family of Plant that is different of course. What's wrong with waiting a few years for Robert? Heck....they'd sell out even if they were all senior citizens. Actually I am very surprised Page went for this new vocalist deal. Perhaps financial pressures are weighing on his mind?
ER757 From Cayman Islands, joined May 2005, 2247 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1354 times:
I heard on the radio yesterday that Plant heard they were looking for a replacement and he called them up and basically said "hold on a minute there boys. There'll be no replacement singer - I'm your man." I guess they're talking about waiting til he's finished with his Allison Krause tour before getting serious about a real Zep tour.
Flighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 7502 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1354 times:
Plant wrote the actual lyrics to pretty much all the songs. He would still collect the royalties no matter who is singing. He is the owner of Led Zep just as much as Jimmy Page.
Don't forget Page & Plant did at least 2 entire tours together in 1994 and 1998. That was more of a Zeppelin reunion tour than some Jimmy + John Paul Jones + singer would be.
The truth is, Plant had the most to lose. And he would look the most ridiculous. And, he's got the best solo career right now. One can understand why he is reluctant to do it. These guys don't need the money, they are richer than most of us can fathom.
TSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2884 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1331 times:
First person I thought of when I read the thread title. He's done a better job filling in for the late Freddie Mercury in Queen than I'd have ever believed possible, but I doubt he'd want to fill in for another contemporary of his who's still alive.
At first I laughed, but the more I think about it the more I think his voice could do justice to Led Zeppelin songs.
Quoting YVRLTN (Thread starter): They also played a version of Black Dog with Ann Wilson of Heart singing the vocals
I heard that today myself. Ann's voice fits the material surprisingly well, but the tempo on the version I heard dragged horribly. It was like listening to "Black Dog" slowed down to "Dreamboat Annie" speed. I guess Tony Bennett will record a version of "Black Dog" next.
The thing with Paul, Burton and Ann is this: They all have their own catalog of hits from the 1970s with (respectively) Bad Company, The Guess Who, and Heart, and they don't need to tour the country singing Led Zeppelin songs in place of Robert Plant.
On the other hand, there are literally hundreds of Led Zeppelin cover bands around, some of which have lead singers that are surprisingly good. Any of these guys would literally kill for the opportunity to sing with the real Led Zeppelin. Let these guys audition for the part and pick the best one.
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HapppyLandings From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1323 times:
Quoting TSS (Reply 11): On the other hand, there are literally hundreds of Led Zeppelin cover bands around, some of which have lead singers that are surprisingly good. Any of these guys would literally kill for the opportunity to sing with the real Led Zeppelin. Let these guys audition for the part and pick the best one.
What a great suggestion... That is the only way I would by tickets for that show. Some pub playing Plant sound alike on stage.... That would be cool but of course it still is not a LZ show....
StuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1785 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1318 times:
Quoting TSS (Reply 11): On the other hand, there are literally hundreds of Led Zeppelin cover bands around, some of which have lead singers that are surprisingly good. Any of these guys would literally kill for the opportunity to sing with the real Led Zeppelin. Let these guys audition for the part and pick the best one.
That would just be a sad sad thing to see. I would MUCH prefer they all just stay home and never play publicly again
YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2119 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1313 times:
Quoting TSS (Reply 11): Quoting YVRLTN (Thread starter):
Paul Rodgers
First person I thought of when I read the thread title. He's done a better job filling in for the late Freddie Mercury in Queen than I'd have ever believed possible, but I doubt he'd want to fill in for another contemporary of his who's still alive.
Theres only one Freddie, but he does a good job - and I guess hes busy touring with Queen anyway.
Quoting TSS (Reply 11): Quoting YVRLTN (Thread starter):
Roger Hodgson
That name rings a bell, but I can't place it. Where would I know him from?
Supertramp - he certainly gets the higher notes but.........
At first I laughed, but the more I think about it the more I think his voice could do justice to Led Zeppelin songs.
I did the same, but one of the stronger candidates actually. The guy that phoned in with that suggestion reckoned Plant himself said 20 years ago Burton was one of the vocalists he respected most.
Quoting TSS (Reply 11): Quoting YVRLTN (Thread starter):
They also played a version of Black Dog with Ann Wilson of Heart singing the vocals
I heard that today myself. Ann's voice fits the material surprisingly well, but the tempo on the version I heard dragged horribly. It was like listening to "Black Dog" slowed down to "Dreamboat Annie" speed.
I was sceptical when I heard the combination announced, but the version I heard left me pleasantly surprised. Her voice is kind of 'raspy'. Heres one example, though not as good as what I heard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8pwfw9LY6o
Now wind the clock back 30 years and bring along her sister, I'd certainly pay to see a live show then - but I agree with the general consensus - they should wait for Plant to finish what hes doing and not to do so is a massive slap in the face to the man who made LZ the band they were - imagine the Stones touring next week and leaving Jagger behind!!
Quoting TSS (Reply 11): On the other hand, there are literally hundreds of Led Zeppelin cover bands around, some of which have lead singers that are surprisingly good. Any of these guys would literally kill for the opportunity to sing with the real Led Zeppelin. Let these guys audition for the part and pick the best one.
Great idea, might even audition myself There was a band just recently who re-united and found a singer by going through cover bands on youtube - cant remember who that was.
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KAUST From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 91 posts, RR: 27 Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1250 times:
I say for whomever it is, they should be put to the ultimate test: the beginning "scream" from "Immigrant Song." If they cannot do the "scream", I don't care how good they are. This to me was one of the greatest parts of Robert Plant. I know I sure cannot do that sound, and I am a darn good singer in my own right.
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WunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 31 Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1247 times:
Quoting Sprout5199 (Reply 6): Don't forget Jones. He was a BIG part of the Zeppelin sound. Doesn't get the credit that is due to him.
Amen to that, brother. If Led Zeppelin was recognised for having one of, if not THE best rhythm section in rock'n'roll it is because both Bonham and Jones, on top of their amazing individual skills and inspiration, knew how to play together.
And I think Wikipedia has contributed to right a few historical "wrongs" by giving Jonesy his dues.
Vikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 8313 posts, RR: 28 Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1238 times:
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Quoting Flighty (Reply 10):
Don't forget Page & Plant did at least 2 entire tours together in 1994 and 1998. That was more of a Zeppelin reunion tour than some Jimmy + John Paul Jones + singer would be.
No. It was just as little of a Zeppelin reunion as Jimmy + Jones + Jason Bonham + singer would be.
Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 18): Quoting Sprout5199 (Reply 6):
Don't forget Jones. He was a BIG part of the Zeppelin sound. Doesn't get the credit that is due to him.
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Amen to that, brother. If Led Zeppelin was recognised for having one of, if not THE best rhythm section in rock'n'roll it is because both Bonham and Jones, on top of their amazing individual skills and inspiration, knew how to play together.
And I think Wikipedia has contributed to right a few historical "wrongs" by giving Jonesy his dues.
Funny enough, it's always seemed to me that Jones HAS gotten his due. Perhaps he didn't so much back in the day, I dunno. And also, perhaps because I'm a bassist and drummer in addition to being a guitarist, I tend to notice the drums and bass more than many others probably would.
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Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38587 posts, RR: 80 Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1230 times:
Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 20): always seemed to me that Jones HAS gotten his due. Perhaps he didn't so much back in the day, I dunno. And also, perhaps because I'm a bassist and drummer in addition to being a guitarist, I tend to notice the drums and bass more than many others probably would.
John Paul Jones also plays the piano, organ, moog, clavinet, harpsichord and other sounds in Led Zeppelin.
He is the sound that give them that distinct sound.
Vikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 8313 posts, RR: 28 Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1226 times:
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 21): John Paul Jones also plays the piano, organ, moog, clavinet, harpsichord and other sounds in Led Zeppelin.
He is the sound that give them that distinct sound.
Yes, I am aware
Like I said, I've always felt he is respected as much as Page or Plant or Bonham. At least, I respect him that much.
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PSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3006 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1225 times:
It would be pretty hard for me to accept Zep without Plant but, if I had to throw in my two cents, my choice would be Sammy Hagar.On Zep's faster songs Sammy might do excellent
but on slower songs like "Stairway" he might massacre it.
Here's a great verision of "Rock N Roll". Sammy w/Van Halan
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38587 posts, RR: 80 Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1220 times:
Quoting Vikkyvik (Reply 22): Like I said, I've always felt he is respected as much as Page or Plant or Bonham. At least, I respect him that much.
Perhaps but he doesn't have T-ships with and other fanzine stuff the Jimmy Page & Robert Plant has.
I wish Robert Plant decides to go ahead and tour. Otherwise, it would be awesome to have David Coverdale join in.
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25 Sprout5199: And if you watch the videos(I first noticed it when I watched "The Song Remains the Same" in the early eighties) JPJ and JB are always talking/joking
26 WunalaYann: Nothing beats a tight, competent rhythm section. Check that, a tight, competent rhythm section playing with amazingly talented guitarists, singers an
27 ER757: Yeah - Plant used to call him "David Coverversion" The version on the DVD set that came out a couple years ago is worth the purchase price itself!
28 StuckInCA: Why are you guys still talking about this. You can't substitute anything or anyone for Robert Plant and call it Led Zeppelin. End of thread.
29 Superfly: Which is all the more reason to have David Coverdale join if Robert Plant flakes out. ..or David Coverdale. Am I the only that would like to see Davi
30 KiwiRob: Well the good news is Plant realised that the band were serious about doing this without him and he's now signed up.
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but of course it still is not a LZ show....
There was a band just recently who re-united and found a singer by going through cover bands on youtube - cant remember who that was.
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