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If There Was A UK Election Who Would You Vote For?  
User currently offlineSeansasLCY From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 890 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

If a UK general election was called tomorrow for sometime in november, who would you vote for and why?

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User currently offlineMWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 729 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

Tory! Lets get Gordon out now, he's indebted the country so much in all the PFI's that not even he is sure what the truth about national debt is these days. Lets get a Tory leadership back in power to clean up all the mess that Tony and Gordon and all their little minions have left behind


Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6035 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2605 times:

Does Labour even have anyone they can 'nominate' as their leader when Gordon is kicked out of office? I know they just brought back Peter Mandelson, but that guy seems somewhat unable to maintain a place in a cabinet, so I wonder how popular he really is in the public eye?

If I had any say, I'd point at either Boris Johnson or Jeremy Clarkson. The UK may be going to hell in a handbasket, but at least it'd be somewhat amusing to watch Big grin


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2597 times:

Under a different voting system, I'd go for UKIP. However under FPTP there isn't much point, so I'd probably go for Labour (although I live in a Tory stronghold, so that would probably be pointless too).

Now if only Vince Cable had become leader of the Lib Dems...


User currently offlineIH8BY From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1143 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2580 times:



Quoting MWHCVT (Reply 1):
Lets get a Tory leadership back in power to clean up all the mess that Tony and Gordon and all their little minions have left behind

Until they too, inevitably, dissolve into a mess of sleaze and corruption, just like Labour have and just like the last Tory government did before them. I'm afraid that I don't trust the Conservatives any more than I trust Labour - in fact, possibly slightly less, and that's impressive considering how many times Labour has betrayed its voters' trust since 1997 (with the Conservatives complicit in much of this).

That said, the Lib Dems have been at their least incisive since their leadership changed. People mocked Sir Menzies Campbell for his age, but from what I can see the Liberal Democrats seem to have faded into the background once again since the arrival of Nick Clegg, whose biggest headlines since he assumed the leadership have been not around policy but around his claims of how many women he'd slept with.

Politically I'm closest to Lib Dem, but I'm not entirely sure I wouldn't vote Labour just to keep the Conservatives in check.



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User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2572 times:

Russell Brand................!!!!


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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2564 times:



Quoting Cumulus (Reply 5):
Russell Brand................!!!!

What that fat astrology guy?



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User currently offlineRsg85 From Australia, joined Aug 2006, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2558 times:



Quoting SeansasLCY (Thread starter):
Who Would You Vote For?

Keith Lemon


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9536 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2551 times:



Quoting IH8BY (Reply 4):
Until they too, inevitably, dissolve into a mess of sleaze and corruption

I think you need to forget the usual sleaze and corruption as major criteria for choosing a party. There have been some elements of both in every government and opposition I've been aware of. It's unfortunate but it's a fact of life. Those criteria tend to be emphasised more by younger voters who've only experienced one government and are a significant number given how long Labour have been in.

The Tories "suffered" from the same fate after 18 years in power. I went back to university after working for a few years and a lot of my classmates had been born only a few years before the last Tory government got in. I well remember them insisting that a Labour government wouldn't be sleazy or corrupt. I like to remind them of this from time to time.  Smile


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10925 posts, RR: 37
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

I should not intervene in this thread as I am not a citizen of the UK but I must say I would be sad to see the Conservatives being back in power.

The Labour Party has certainly made mistakes but I do not see what better the Conservatives can do.

It seems that the Conservative tendency is winning all over Europe, certainly not for the countries good.

Sarkozy and Berlusconi (both are W. Bush good buddies) are two perfect examples of this wave of conservatism. They are both hopeless yet they seem to be very much liked - even loved - by a great majority of people in Italy and France so I am afraid they will probably still be around for a number of years.



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User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

Jeremy Clarkson. Seriously.


 Silly


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2534 times:



Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 10):
Jeremy Clarkson. Seriously.

Sadly you are too young to vote son!  Wink



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2526 times:

Monster Raving Loony party as first choice.

However, if i were to really think about it, I would vote Tory. While they are probably no better than the other crowd, at least theirs would be a different mess.

And as for sleaze. You are not going to get a squeaky clean party whoever gets in. Accept it, human beings are not perfect and to expect anythinge else is naieve and stupid. To me, a guy shagging his secretary while maintaining a second home with 4 children by his Mistress, who frequents a West London Bondage Club and deals with insider traders, is perfectly normal. It's what human beans do. To expect them to lead blameless and perfect lives is not on.

I'd rather trust a proven crook than a guy who hides his faults until it is too late to do anything about it.

Just my 4d pennorth

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineElite From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2006, 2875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2526 times:



Quoting CPH-R (Reply 2):
Boris Johnson

I'm not an expert on UK politics, but isn't that guy a buffoon?


User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2520 times:



Quoting Elite (Reply 13):
I'm not an expert on UK politics, but isn't that guy a buffoon?

He acts like one but he is in fact quite switched on. Although I'm not sure I'd want him running the country. As the old adage goes - Never judge a book by it's cover"!

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2507 times:



Quoting Myt332 (Reply 11):

Sadly you are too young to vote son! Wink

2 years (well, slightly less than that, I turn 18 in July 2010...) till i'm 18. I won't be using my vote - I don't think any of the people in politics have enough of their screwed tightened to be running a country.


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2506 times:



Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 15):
I won't be using my vote

Personally I think you should always use your vote no matter how dire things seem but that's just me.



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2500 times:
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User currently offlineSeansasLCY From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 890 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2494 times:



Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 15):
2 years (well, slightly less than that, I turn 18 in July 2010...) till i'm 18. I won't be using my vote - I don't think any of the people in politics have enough of their screwed tightened to be running a country.

I think this is the biggest insult you can make. People around the world die for the right to vote from the soldiers of WW1/WW2 to the people killed in Tiananmen Sq. You should always use your right.


User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2492 times:



Quoting SeansasLCY (Reply 18):
I think this is the biggest insult you can make. People around the world die for the right to vote from the soldiers of WW1/WW2 to the people killed in Tiananmen Sq. You should always use your right.

Actually, voting for something you neither agree with, or feel is relevant is pointless and unproductive. If you feel that none of the parties involved have a policy you agree with then yuou should not be pressured into voting. The choice is what makes a democracy. Telling people that it is "an insult" not voting is wrong. Not having anything to vote for is wrong.

In the current political climate in the UK there is precious little to differentiate between the parties. And neither can you trust any of them to do what they say, the beaurocracy and civil service see to that.

So telling people that not voting is an insult is totally out of order. Maybe telling politicians to put forward policies that people WANT to see embodied is the way forward. Trying to shame people for not voting isn't.

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2488 times:
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I'd vote for a fringe party like the Greens as a protest vote. Not only is politics dirty, corrupt and dishonest, it's one of the most boring aspects of life. All the parties have their own agenda's and ideas, they will say one thing and then do something else when they get into power.

I once heard a saying that "If voting ever made a difference it would be abolished". So true.



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User currently offlineSpeedBirdA380 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

I am thinking of voting Conservative.

People argue it will be more of the same we have endured under Labour but Can it be any worse?

Yes I am too young to remember the 80's and the Thatcher years but I still think they deserve a shot a running the country.

I made my mind up permantley not to vote Labour after seeing a tv programme on ITV a few weeks ago and they were questioning a Labour MP(forget who) about the Inheritence Tax Issue. Her reply was "Inheritence Tax is the fairest tax there is because we only take your money when you die". banghead 

Well that might be the case for you darling and your family with your nice six figure salary(easily six figures when you add all the extras they recieve at our expense) but what about those people who have to survive in the real world who would like to give the money to their Children or Grandchildren so possibly they might be able to get their foot on the housing ladder or pay off their mortgage. Or even a charity close to their heart.

Also now we have the return of Peter Mandelson who I understand on top of his £100,000+ salary will also continue to recieve his Euro MP slary for the next 3 years which amounts to around £230,000. All at a time when the British Taxpayer earning a modest wage is picking up the bill for tens of billions of pounds for these greedy incompetant bankers(change the B in that word to a W.)

I am going to lie down for a bit now....

 faint 


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2481 times:
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Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 21):
Peter Mandelson who I understand on top of his £100,000+ salary will also continue to recieve his Euro MP slary for the next 3 years which amounts to around £230,000.

Did you see why? Because his new salary is less than the Euro MP salary. What a shame. He wasn't fired, or retrenched from his Euro job, he CHOSE to move to a lesser-paying post and now the taxpayer is funding the difference. Politics stinks.



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2479 times:



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 21):
Also now we have the return of Peter Mandelson who I understand on top of his £100,000+ salary will also continue to recieve his Euro MP slary for the next 3 years which amounts to around £230,000. All at a time when the British Taxpayer earning a modest wage is picking up the bill for tens of billions of pounds for these greedy incompetant bankers(change the B in that word to a W.)

And this is a man who has lost his job twice!! And is now elevated to the Lords - by the party that wants to abolish it!!

And we MUST vote? For people like this? I don't think so.

Andy  old 



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User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2469 times:



Quoting SeansasLCY (Reply 18):

I think this is the biggest insult you can make. People around the world die for the right to vote from the soldiers of WW1/WW2 to the people killed in Tiananmen Sq. You should always use your right.

Maybe, and I respect that fact. But we live in a democratic society. I've got the right not to vote. I don't believe in what the political parties are promoting or whatever, so voting for them would go against the point of voting.

Maybe you should use your right NOT to vote instead.


25 Nighthawk : which is exactly why I have always felt there should be a "none of the above" option on the ballot slips. Last general election I felt neither party
26 GDB : What do you do when the party you usually vote for has not, to put it mildly, been performing? When you will NOT vote for the main opponent? When you
27 Planesarecool : I'd go for any party that vows to scrap 'Green' taxes and stop using "Global Warming" as a way of taxing our arses off. Or alternatively, if they must
28 MWHCVT : I have to confess that this is the problem, almost all MP's have their own agenda when they take up office, most of the time this leads to corruption
29 Post contains links Cumulus : That's Russell Grant you berk!!!!!!!!!!!! Russell Brand, My Booky Wook and all that! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EnnrSC540Y4
30 SpeedBirdA380 : Stinks worse than a skunks backside. Yes you are right. I try and look at it like this- A vote for the lessor of two evils. Sad but true. 100% agree
31 GDB : I would not get too het up about 'Green Taxes', because they will in the future, be driven by the need to comply with international agreements, (not j
32 Oa260 : Tory , Im a true blue when it comes to British politics. Labour are a total shower.
33 David L : I have to agree there. However... ... there is - a spoiled paper. I believe the fact that "people died for our right to vote" should give us the kick
34 Boeing74741R : I turned the age of voting last November, and casted my first vote back in May in the local elections. My vote went to the Conservatives, and in the n
35 DC10BHX : I will be voting Tory. I can remember the Tories gaining power in 1979 and have lived through Tory power all the way through Senior school and startin
36 Post contains links SpeedBirdA380 : Just to inject a slice of humour in this thread- The wonderfully talented Rory Bremner mocking our MP's. For me no one can deliver serious points and
37 Post contains images Myt332 : Beurk? I'll try that next time I think. I think you should always vote but who is the lesser of two evils? It's all bollocks at the end of the day an
38 777236ER : Labour, mainly for the following reasons: Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s. Highest number of police per capita ever. Reduced c
39 777236ER : There are 169 political parties in the UK. You don't agree with any of them? What an advert for the Tories!! A Brown government is much closer to the
40 DC10BHX : This government may well be closer to the unions but they still have had issues with a number of the groups (fire fighters / police etc). Didn't Jacq
41 GDB : When I mentioned above, that I thought that even with their current popularity, the Tories were all of a sudden on the wrong side of history , I was o
42 David L : I'm pretty sure the Tories got slated for doing just that.
43 777236ER : Governments will always have issues with groups of public servants when it comes to pay negotiations. You admit yourself that you were lucky to keep
44 DC10BHX : Nowhere did I say that I was lucky to keep my job. I (unlike over two million others) got off my arse and looked for a job (doing something that I ha
45 777236ER : So then the economy doesn't matter? Even if it's handled as badly as it was by the Tories in the mid to late 80s, it's OK because people can actually
46 Ajd1992 : Considering the major political parties that have been in government number at around 4 (Conservative, Tory, Labour and the Liberal Democrats to a po
47 777236ER : Parties get elected because the people elect them. If enough people vote BNP, the BNP will get into power. Your refusal to vote makes the chance of t
48 Skidmarks : Minor point of order here. Conservative AND Tory? One and the same old chap lol! And I still wont vote, not until someone actually can convince me th
49 777236ER : If you don't vote you risk someone getting into power that not only puts their own position first, but has views that you'd consider abhorrant. Hitle
50 Oa260 : I think it should be compulsory to vote even if you tick the box that says your not voting for any candidate. people fought and died to get this righ
51 Boeing74741R : Regardless, a pledge is a pledge, and the simple fact is that Labour broke that manifesto pledge. If they failed to deliver on that pledge, can I tru
52 GDB : If you are looking for a party manifesto that aligns with great symmetry, to your personal interests, you've a very long wait. Our society is too larg
53 Skidmarks : With all due respect, I am old enough and have seen enough to know that what I want will never be on anyones agenda. And I have also seen enough chan
54 777236ER : Actually, this was the 1997 pledge: The process of rail privatisation is now largely complete. It has made fortunes for a few, but has been a poor de
55 Skidmarks : And it will do it whether I vote for them or not. When they take notice of the general public instead of ignoring us then I'll take notice of them. I
56 TristarAtLCA : Anyone but Labour gets my vote, for the following reasons: Gordon Brown elected by whom exactly to be our Prime Minister? The 10p tax debacle which w
57 777236ER : Don't be ridiculous, there are some truly abhorrent people running for office in the UK. Get some perspective. Your entire list either has nothing to
58 Skidmarks : So, what you are saying is, I should vote for a political party I neither trust or respect, just in case some fluke happens and, for the sake of argu
59 Boeing74741R : Nothing to do with the government? So are you saying that issues like broken pledges and a prime minister who was not elected by the people have noth
60 GDB : So it was also wrong for John Major to become PM in 1990? No election with him as leader until 1992. Same with Jim Callaghan, Alec Douglas-Home, Haro
61 David L : Oh, the irony. Not really. The party of which he was a member got a lot of votes but, in the end, they bullied their way into power. Whatever point y
62 BCAL : What have you been smoking? Apart from having been proved to have lied about the "Weapons of Mass Destruction" and being the first Labour prime minis
63 777236ER : Yes really. 1933. The Nazis beat Otto Wells and the Communists were no where to be seen following the Reichstag fire. Er, since the late 20s, the Naz
64 David L : If you want to take the very simplistic approach, perhaps. However, you might want to look at why everyone else was "nowhere to be seen". And your po
65 TristarAtLCA : Perspective? what are you talking about? 'Running' for office is completely different to being in power and I personally find Mandelson's return to g
66 David L : While I don't disagree with many of your points, I'll have to disagree with this one. In the UK, we vote for a local representative. Obviously we're
67 Skidmarks : We don't, we just don't want to appear racist/Anti-Scot/biased. Really? Oh, I thought someone actually voted them in. And I have to say, having read
68 David L : Fair point.
69 TristarAtLCA : Oh I agree with what you are saying in the main but I would certainly debate that people voted for Blair's vision of New Labour when they swept to po
70 David L : Yes, I missed that gem. I really don't see how anyone can tell how much is due to people not voting and how much is due to the reasons given by some
71 TristarAtLCA : If she could, she wouldn't have to worry about the leaky roof at her humble pad. She could put it through as expenses
72 Post contains links Boeing74741R : Speaking of Mandelson, he has just accepted a second hospitality invitation. This time from a very successful businessman who benefited from his deci
73 Ajd1992 : Sorry Skids... Brain fart Not been sleeping too well lately... Illegal by definition or not, it was still ethically wrong to kill innocent Iraqi citi
74 GDB : But that is not how it works, general elections are for voting for political parties, not a figurehead/alternate head of state. This I think still do
75 TristarAtLCA : Yes, I am aware of this and as I have stated, this is my personal view. The tories never got my vote with Major at the helm, nor will Brown. I wonder
76 Skidmarks : I think the moral of this thread is, unless you read every manifesto in minute detail and have a degree in Politics from the LSE, you are never going
77 GDB : The reason I'm not sure about the relative positions on student funding 11 years ago, is perhaps that it didn't affect me. I'm not calling anyone stup
78 TristarAtLCA : I agree with everything you say above. Of course someone had to figure out how to pay for it which is why my objection isn't that this is the system
79 Boeing74741R : It can be argued though that their commitment to increase university numbers has gone so high (and a target looming) it does question whether it is a
80 Skidmarks : Oh please don't get me started on student loans and Universities! My son has just started at Southampton and believe me, it's a nightmare. Trying to g
81 GDB : Agreed, perps soundbite politics is the deep rooted cause here too. If we even hint this idea will cost, we are finished . New Labour banished the wo
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