747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4144 posts, RR: 2 Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3484 times:
I have been wondering, why was the QM2 docks move from Manhattan to Brooklyn? I seen photos of the QM2 in Manhattan and it looks like it fit ok at the Manhattan docks. Also the QV and when it was still sailing to New York City, the QE2 still used the Manhattan dock. So why Carnival move this great ship out of the docks where a lot of people would like to see her?
Jetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1737 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3431 times:
Cunard Lines, which is owned by Carnival Cruises uses their docks in Brooklyn.
The passenger piers in Manhattan are not really capable of handling the mega cruise ships of today, they were built in the 1950’s to handle ships like the SS United States and the Queen Mary.
With today’s mega cruise ships, the logistics of moving so many passengers and re-provisioning the ships had caused grid lock around the mid town piers.
Because of this Carnival decided to build new passenger facilities on the Brooklyn waterfront, which is also easier to get to than the mid town piers.
Even Royal Caribbean Cruise lines and its wholly owned Celebrity Cruises abandoned New York City for Bayonne New Jersey for the same reasons. 2 years ago when we took a Celebrity Cruise to Bermuda, we sailed from Bayonne which was nice becasue they had long term parking there. Even driving from Connecticut, it was much easier than fighting the New York traffic if we had sailed from Manhattan.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12341 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3400 times:
Jetstar has hit the nail on the head. The docks in NYC are common use and do not allow the cruise lines that use them to do any renovations, improvements or upkeep. For a long time the start of your cruise left a whole lot to be desired as usually it was nothing more than a dock with little if any creature comforts.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17444 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3351 times:
The QM2 stuck out into the river too far, it was interfering with river traffic. Also the Cruise industry is no longer just concentrate at the West Side Piers in Manhattan, they are now spread out amongst three facilities:
Carnival, Princess, Cunard
Cape Liberty, Bayonne New Jersey:
Royal Caribbean, Celebrity
West Side Piers Manhattan:
Norwegian Cruise lines, Crystal Cruises