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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9429 posts, RR: 26
Posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1811 times:

If one is to consider a serious relocation to the Hartford, Connecticut (and surrounding) areas, what should one know about where younger career yuppies tend to live, the best places/suburbs/areas to live, housing, cost of living, etc., and most importantly, of course, nearest Starbucks.

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User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2810 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1811 times:
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If you are going to move to Hartford best not to live in the city. The city youth well aren't the best. If you want to live somewhere nice you can live in Manchester, Farmington, there are a few places further north as well (15 min commute to the city) Suffield is beautiful, Granby is nice, Windsor Locks (plus you have BDL  Smile). Just stay away from the major cities. Trust me its better. If you want to chill with some younger people you can live by UCONN in Storrs. Otherwise you would have to really just hang around college towns like that. Cost of living is pretty pricey. We have a pretty high gas tax and pretty high taxes overall. Starbucks! In New England we drink Dunkin Donuts! There one every corner in Hartford.
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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9429 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

I've heard Hartford area is very suburban ... that's kind of what worries me. I'm used to cities with neighborhoods, etc. I'm not sure if I would want to be commuting from out by UConn, unless it's not all that far out of the way.

I've heard there are taxes on cars, etc. Hence I'd be keeping out of state residency  Smile



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User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4280 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1799 times:



Quoting STLGph (Reply 2):
I've heard Hartford area is very suburban ... that's kind of what worries me.

It is. When I looked at moving there, people told me I wouldn't really enjoy it because the downtown area closes tight around 8 pm. Everybody leaves downtown for the burbs after that. Not sure what the best places to live are, but, hey, you'll have a better selection of food and Starbucks (I only know of one Starbucks in Vermont, and it is 75 miles away) than up here in Vermont!

Texan



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9429 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1798 times:



Quoting Texan (Reply 3):

Well my hours would be completely whacked as it is anyway.

I'm sure outside of suburbia life ... other qualities are quite nice ... proximity to New York City, Boston, Providence, etc.

Why I'd be going is a good job opportunity, but I just have a feeling I'm going to get out there and not really care for it that much, or maybe that's just anxiety talking.

If worse comes to worse I can always bail and head back to the midwest.



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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1795 times:

You'll find that downtown is being completely revitalized for a younger 'yuppie' crowd. When I moved downtown a year ago it was such a far cry from where it is now. The downtown area is very small but it seems like there is a lot of new construction going on along with the opening of new restaurants/bars etc. Generally most people live around Bushnell park or over on Main St. Apartments are reasonably priced.

The main drawback is, as the other poster said, the city (downtown) is virtually empty past 6-7pm on the weeknights. Friday and Saturday you'll get a decent amount of people out at the bars/restaurants, but Sunday is horrendous. Sunday's in Hartford are so dead that virtually nothing is open except for a couple fast food places and maybe 1 or 2 restaurants. I've seen this change for the better in the past year, but it's still got a ways to go. Also know that there is not a true grocery store downtown, so you'll have to travel (drive) to get to one.

You'll hear people knock Hartford but it's not as bad as people say, I think you'll enjoy it... BTW there is a Starbucks on Trumbull St. right in the center of town


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1753 times:

Dont know much about hartford, but I live right over the line in W.Mass, alot of people make the commute south. I would recomend Northampton,Ma you can get to Harftord in under an hr from there and its an awesome little city.


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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1734 times:

Just one other note, JetBlueGuy is right, Granby, Suffield and Windsor Locks are nice, but they aren't "young" towns they're all small, old new england kinda towns, and I dont think suffield has a Starbucks, and the one in windsor locks closed  Wink


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User currently offlineStlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9429 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1725 times:



Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 6):

i can find the young people. that shouldn't be a problem ... everything's pretty close together, it seems.

i didn't give MA a thought ... i guess it's possible. what about Springfield, itself? i don't really want an hour commute each way each day.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1710 times:



Quoting Stlgph (Reply 8):
i guess it's possible. what about Springfield, itself? i don't really want an hour commute each way each day.

The city isnt great, take it from me, I work there. crime problems downtown and outside of the club district I would not want to ventrue around after dark. It does have alot of nice cubs/bars and some great restaurants. However, Longmeadow and E.Longmeadow are very nice upscale, quiet towns, Agawam is nice too. All of those are the immediately outside of Springfield and are closest to Hartford.



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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

One should not move to Hartford if one is an outspoken, opiniated Guppie seeking a fast-paced cosmopolitan life with copious amounts of intellectual and physical stimulation...  Wink


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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1693 times:

For the younger, trendy, sophisticated type crowd, Hartford is far from the first city that pops into my mind. I have looked into gettign back up to the northeast and have pretty much narrowed ir down to Boston, Providence, NYC, Baltimore or DC. I think some parts of Stamford and New haven might be progressive too. Now before I get criticised for being bias because of my username ( i actually live in ATL now) Providence has affordable downtown living and is a very walking freindly city in an attractive setting. You can actually walk to more things in providence (without hassle i might add) than Atlanta.

Another thing to look into is getting around. The northeast corridor rail is an extremely nice asset to have. Providence, New Haven and Stamford all have really good options to get to Boston and New York.



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User currently offlineSASD209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Having lived in CT for most of my life, I'd rule out ANY of the cities here: Hartford, New Haven, Bridgeport, Waterbury, etc. None of those cities here are on par with a Boston or NYC. You're not going to find the night life of social scene you're looking for here. Almost everything here shuts down after dark, and with a few exceptions the inner cities are just that: low income and higher crime than the suburbs. Not to mention the taxes here!! Metro North rail link in southwest CT provides good access to NYC, but up north you'd have to drive to get to say BOS or the city. Don't get me wrong, CT can be a great place to live and work, just not in the cities. Try looking in the 15-20 minute commute circle of your target area and you'd probably be much better off.

SASD209


User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

Having lived in metro Hartford for 9 years, I've always lived in the suburbs, both as a single guy and later married.

What I really liked about Hartford was proximity -- to the ocean, to the mountains of Vermont, to Boston, to NYC. All very close.

It's nice to see a lot more housing options now than in the 1990s.



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User currently offlineLuckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1650 times:



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 11):
You can actually walk to more things in providence (without hassle i might add) than Atlanta

I would assume there are far fewer people, far fewer cars, and a much more logical street layout than in Atlanta  Smile


User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1624 times:

I visited MIddletown, CT last month (just outside Hartford) and it was nice...there was a "downtown" area with restaurants, etc -- and the presence of a college there keeps things interesting/young.

User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1619 times:



Quoting Luckyone (Reply 14):
I would assume there are far fewer people, far fewer cars, and a much more logical street layout than in Atlanta

Well size comparison aside, you can't walk to many things in Atlanta, only recently has Peachtree street been improved between Fox theater and 10th street. Everything in Atlanta is developed in pockets that require you to drive fom one to another (hence the traffic problem) Providence, if you park, you can easily walk to everything except the Zoo, and Thayer Street.

Heck you can even walk between the Mall, the largest hotel (Westin), convention center, and civic center without even stepping outside now for those cold december rainy days. Atlanta if you want to go the aquarium, dine in midtown, go to Atlantic station for a movie then go your hotel in Buckhead you have to drive to each.



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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

I was born in Hartford and spent the first few years of my life in Broad Brook. Right now my dad lives in East Windsor/Warehouse Point/Windsor Locks (it all seems to run together, practically). It's a nice town but it's nice for families and older people, not really for twenty-somethings looking for a hip life. I love all the small towns in New England, myself, but I can't take the cold.

User currently offlineDETA737 From Portugal, joined Oct 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1585 times:

The Hartford area has very little to offer anyone interested in city living. Hartford's downtown is very small and has practically no shopping and the nightlife is not great either. Clubs and bars close very early, 2:00AM on weekends I believe and are definitely in the league of many similar sized cities. I once read that Hartford had all the bad things of a big city: crime, pollution, high-cost of living with none of the good things: nightlife, shopping and culture. The city should be a case study for bad 1950s-1980s urban renewal with highways everywhere and lots of ugly brutalist office towers, surface parking lots and housing projects.

West Hartford is a nice little suburb with that has a somewhat urban feeling and seems to have a variety of price ranges of houses and probably the most retail and restaurants in the area. West Hartford also had lots of sidewalks and well lit streets. The other surrounding towns just seem very dull, ugly or both. Avon, Farmington, Simsbury and Glastonbury are upmarket but very bland towns Mcmansions have taken over old farms. I find Avon could have been a charming New England town had they not turned it into a large strip mall. Wethersfield and Newington are typical 50s suburbs with not much going for them except a large stripmall. New Britain and Bristol are perhaps even more depressing than Hartford as both were once industrial towns and lack viable economies. Manchester is just strip malls and big box stores and could have been in Dallas, Atlanta or Phoenix. Windsor and Bloomfield seem to be very spread out too. The further out you go the larger the lots of the homes and the sprawl just gets worse (i.e. Granby).


User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1654 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1572 times:
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Quoting STLGph (Reply 2):
I've heard there are taxes on cars, etc. Hence I'd be keeping out of state residency

In Connecticut each city or town assesses a property tax on motor vehicles, in addition to the state registration fee.

The property tax is based on the value of the car and varies by each towns mil rates, some towns the tax can be double than an adjoining town.

If you can keep the car registered out of state, do so, but some towns are more aggressive than others in pursuing out of state registered vehicles. Usually they are looking for Vermont plates for those car owners who register their car to their ski house and Florida for those who are snowbirds and winter in Florida.

I believe the state law is any vehicle in the state for more than 30 days must be registered in Connecticut


User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

There are some beautiful homes in West Hartford and Bloomfield.


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User currently offlineSASD209 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1548 times:



Quoting Jetstar (Reply 19):
I believe the state law is any vehicle in the state for more than 30 days must be registered in Connecticut

This is true last time I checked. Towns are very anxious to enforce this as I found out when I came back from college in Maine with ME plates on the car. State police, not so much, but the locals police will give you a hard time.


User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1654 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1513 times:
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Quoting SASD209 (Reply 21):
This is true last time I checked. Towns are very anxious to enforce this as I found out when I came back from college in Maine with ME plates on the car. State police, not so much, but the locals police will give you a hard time.

The state doesn’t care about property taxes, the towns keep all the property taxes. The only time the state would be interested is when people buy and register their cars in New Hampshire, which has no sales tax to avoid the CT 6% sales tax. Get stopped with a NH registered car and a CT drivers license with the same name and you can expect a call from the state

A friend of mine who owns a ski house in Vermont bought a new car in CT at a dealer near his home and registered it in VT, which at the time had a lower sales tax than CT and has no vehicle property taxes. The state on an audit of the dealer found this because it was never registered in CT. He got a letter from the state and he explained that this was strictly his VT car, he also had another one registered in CT to commute back and forth and left it up there and only brought it back for servicing and the state accepted his explanation.

We met a couple here in CT who just moved from Hawaii, they drove around CT with Hawaii plates for almost a year before they moved back to their home state in California, talk about raising a red flag, but they were never caught.

If you keep your out of town drivers license and are stopped, then you can just claim you are visiting, but if you change over to a CT drivers license, but keep your car registered out of state in the same name this might raise some eyebrows if stopped.

College towns are aggressive in collecting taxes where students bring their cars from home and do not register them in CT.

Where I live, we are very close to the New York border and NY cars are all over the place, if I wanted to, I could register my cars in NY and use my brothers address there to avoid the property taxes, but unless I changed my drivers license over to NY, in case I was stopped or had an accident, this would raise a red flag. If the town found where I live found out about it, they would assess a fine and add interest to the back taxes so its not worth the hassle.


User currently offlineAlfa75 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1441 times:



Quoting STLGph (Thread starter):
If one is to consider a serious relocation to the Hartford, Connecticut (and surrounding) areas, what should one know about where younger career yuppies tend to live, the best places/suburbs/areas to live, housing, cost of living, etc., and most importantly, of course, nearest Starbucks.

As a life long CT resident I will start off by saying...If you patronize Starbuck's why are you asking about the cost of living?  Big grin



Anyways, CT is actually a great state. If you like the city life NYC and Boston are close by. If you like the outdoors VT & NH are not much further. For a small state, CT has over 800 miles of hiking trails.

As for where to live, it depends on when you are working and what time you are commuting. If you are working normal hours by all means live south of Hartford. the commute up route 91 is rarely affected by traffic. I dirve 38 miles to East Hartford everyday and it only takes me 35-40 minutes. There are always traffic jams heading south into town and on 84 E & W bound. Do not move to Springfield, MA. Besides then you would have to pay two state income taxes. The suggestion of Middletown is not a bad one it is a college town and has some good restaurants.


As for the taxes on your car, like was said before, it all depends on where you live. And could even depend on which part of a city you live in. My town's mill rate is 16.9 so I pay about $35.00 for a 18 year old Volvo. In Hartford it might cost you double. Here is a link to check it out. http://www.ct.gov/opm/cwp/view.asp?A=2987&Q=385976.




Oh, and don't skip out on paying your fare share of taxes.

Quoting Jetstar (Reply 22):
A friend of mine who owns a ski house in Vermont bought a new car in CT at a dealer near his home and registered it in VT, which at the time had a lower sales tax than CT and has no vehicle property taxes. The state on an audit of the dealer found this because it was never registered in CT. He got a letter from the state and he explained that this was strictly his VT car, he also had another one registered in CT to commute back and forth and left it up there and only brought it back for servicing and the state accepted his explanation.

What a crock. It's a tax dodge loophole. It is people like that who can afford a second home (rich people) who lay the burden of taxes on people with lower incomes. (We should start a thread just on that topic.)



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9429 posts, RR: 26
Reply 24, posted (6 years 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1409 times:



Quoting SASD209 (Reply 12):



Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 11):

well, i really don't have a choice on Connecticut. have to go where the job and the money is offered.

Quoting DETA737 (Reply 18):
West Hartford

a lot of people i have discussed this with tent to live in West Hartford.

Quoting Jetstar (Reply 19):
I believe the state law is any vehicle in the state for more than 30 days must be registered in Connecticut

they can suck on it  Smile

i have keys and property in other states so i'm a resident there. if i "happen to be somewhere else" (Missouri, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin), i'm just consulting.  Smile



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25 Cadet57 : From what i've seen of the city, its a nice place. But a little too suburby (I think i made a word, oooh) for me.
26 FXramper : Are we gonna see you on ESPN soon Gavin?
27 STLGph : ?????????
28 STLGph : "tent" should say "tend" oops it's probably suburby ... but it's yet another stop in the road. for now.
29 Alfa75 : The correct term would be Waspy. West Hartford is nice but a little full of itself. Although if you like mountain biking there is a great place on th
30 SW733 : Howdy: I travel to CT from time to time for work, including just a few weeks ago. I usually fly in and out of Hartford, and work in the Shelton area.
31 DETA737 : West Hartford is suburby, but it's hardly waspy. It's got the largest Jewish population in Connecticut and from what I can tell most of the rest of t
32 Drewfly : I have to 2nd the recommendation for West Hartford, it has a very nice downtown section. I would also suggest looking Southwest into towns such as Far
33 STLGph : i'm trying to avoid Bristol and Farmington or else i might as well just move into a cot in the back of Westfarms Mall.
34 Cadet57 : hahaha. I can see why, them having a NM and all
35 Drewfly : Lol........fair point. Bristol though isn't all that bad, but Farmington, yea. However I can attest to Southington being a nice town.
36 STLGph : well, as of now we'll just have to wait and see. i was in town sunday and monday ... from what i saw, everything looked fine and dandy. and i guess th
37 Tommy767 : If you want to live in the northeast in a region where people are young, professional, and outgoing, do yourself a favor and DON'T go to hartford. The
38 Alias1024 : I have this image in my mind of the meeting in Office Space between Peter and the two Bobs, except replace the Bobs with Mr. Met and Billy the Marlin
39 Cadet57 : Did you miss where he mentioned the job he is looking at is in CT?
40 STLGph : bowling is always a good time
41 Tommy767 : oh my bad. well i was just saying how there are other places in the northeast that cater to younger people.
42 Stlgph : Well, my loves and lovers and future lovers in New England ... you will soon have a new neighbor. The listings on apartments.com, rent.com, all *those
43 Cadet57 : Still looking in the hartford area?
44 STLGph : yeah, pretty much. there's a few good buildings that are nice and have lots of stuff going on in the downtown area. it wouldn't be any different than
45 Cadet57 : did you check places like the hartford courant and their real estate ad's? Alas, living here in W.Mass my knowledge of Hartford is limited.
46 RFields5421 : My brother-in-law is selling a nice older home in South Glastonbury. A yuppy would probably want to tear it down and build a McMansion on the 3 acre h
47 STLGph : well you can take me on a tour of western mass! oh, don't get me wrong, i enjoy peace and quiet every once in a while. the most important thing to me
48 Alias1024 : Congratulations!
49 Cadet57 : Deal. Bring your beer goggles!
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