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Gore's Yelling About GW Again-For 2004  
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1415 times:

Gore won't even make it to the general election. John Kerrey is going to wax him in the primaries. Unless Gore moves to New Hampshire, but the Dems are above carpetbagging right?

From TIME:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,218284,00.html


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User currently offlineApathoid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

Talk about flogging a dead horse. You lost, albert...get on with your life. As to tipper running, I think that would be hilarious. Then all of her history of mental illness and institutionalization would be played in the press and keep me in stitches for hours. Of course, tom brokaw and the facists at NBC won't cover it, but it will come out. Oh God, I am giddy with anticipation. come on tipper....run... we could all use a good laugh. (what a couple of loons...)

User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

Whats next? Mondale asking for a recount from the 84 election?  Yeah sure

User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

What amazes me is that the Democrats are apparently planning on nominating a big name politician. I sure wouldn't want to take on George W. and his 75% approval rating.

Democrats can slam Bush all they want for being too cowboy-ish and hawkish, but unlike Slick Willie Clinton, when George W. says he's going to do something, he does it.



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1350 times:

It looks like John Kerry will be the Dems front runner in '04.

I remember when Dole took on Clinton in '96, you could see in the debates that Dole had a look of "better cancell the DC ballroom reservations, I'm not even close".



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User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

DeltaSFO wrote:

>>What amazes me is that the Democrats are apparently planning on nominating a big name politician. I sure wouldn't want to take on George W. and his 75% approval rating.

Don't forget that his father also had a record approval rating during the Gulf War, yet lost to Clinton the very next year. I think that John Kerry could easily defeat Bush.


User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1337 times:

...After all, Bush in in the White House not because he was a good candidate, but because his opponent was just as weak.

User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21522 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

DeltaSFO: Democrats can slam Bush all they want for being too cowboy-ish and hawkish, but unlike Slick Willie Clinton, when George W. says he's going to do something, he does it.

Right. Like promoting free trade, for instance. (Did anybody just say "Read my lips..."? Wink/being sarcastic)


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1321 times:

I wanna hear more about the LOCK BOX!!! Big grin LOL

Chris



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User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

how about a socialist president?

User currently offlineDC3Cowboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1309 times:


ILOVEA340



"how about a socialist president?"

We had one, but he had "intern-al" problems


User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1278 times:

I am convinced that Tipper's weekend flirtation with a Senate race was a bald publicity stunt to get her square shaped, bearded husband back in the headlines.

The Gores are buying a home in a rich Republican suburb os Nashville so as to allow Al to run as a "Washington outsider" in 2004.

Memo to Al: You have already run for president THREE TIMES, and failed. Give it up, you idiot.

(Can you imagine the lineup of fools the Dems will foist on us for 2004; Gore, Daschle, Kerry, and the sorry Biden. Unless Bush is found in bed with Osama, he will win in a landslide.)



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User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21522 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

Stretch 8: Unless Bush is found in bed with Osama, he will win in a landslide.

Remember his father´s second term?

Exactly.  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1263 times:

Exactly Klaus!
A lot can happen in 2 1/2 years.
Papa Bush had a 91% approval rating in 1991 and got whipped 18 months later winning only 35%.
Little Bush can only hide behind 9/11 for so long before people realize he is just using it as an opportunity to shove his right-wing agenda down our throats.

I still think we're in luck. He just may be a one termer after all.  Smile




Till then, I can say:
"Don't Blame Me , I Voted For Gore"  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29840 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

If there is an election that needs to be rurun....It is the Kennedy vs. Nixon. Daley rigged that one.


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User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21522 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

L-188: If there is an election that needs to be rurun....It is the Kennedy vs. Nixon. Daley rigged that one.

Probably. Even if it seems a little late...  Wink/being sarcastic

But still: Are there any serious attempts to update the voting system? It might be preferable to having doubt hanging over every other election...


User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

You guys are smoking the drapes. Take a close look at potential '04 Dem rivals to President Bush. None of these jokers are electible. Old man Bush lost in '92 because he was ill, and too tired to run an effectice campaign. That little troll Perot stole votes from Bush Sr. Clinton ran a great campaign. Daschle, Gore, Kerry (either one) or Biden will circle jerk in the primaries and have nothing left for the general election. That won't happen with the younger Bush. That pindick Rove and the other Bush operatives are much more ruthless.


Maggs swings, it's a drive deep to left! The Tigers are going to the World Series!!!
User currently offlineMcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

Stretch 8 wrote: "Memo to Al: You have already run for president THREE TIMES, and failed. Give it up,"

There has to be some sort of addiction (or masochistic streak) that would cause people to go deep into debt and repeatedly subject themselves and their families to the hellish demands of public life (i.e., long hours, almost total loss of privacy, extended separation, vicious work environment, etc.).

There must be something out there just waiting to be called the 'Harold Stassen Syndrome', after the former Minnesota governor who made his first run for president in the '40s and was still making bids in the '80s.


User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

Stretch 8,

George W. Bush nearly lost to an uncharismatic Al Gore in 2000, despite his ruthless operatives. What makes you say he will be such a good candidate in 2004? After all, he will almost certainly face a much tougher Democratic opponent this time around.

Sure, he will be the incumbent now, but what else has changed? Again, if you are thinking that the War Against Terrorism is enough for him to win the presidency, remember the Gulf War.


User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1230 times:

Bush will use the incumbency to his advantage. The terror war will permit him to maximize the bully pulpit. The terror war will not have a quick end as did the Gulf War. Also, G.W. Bush inherited a recession that is now ending. So the parallel with his Dad does not withstand scrutiny.

As a candidate, Bush was lampooned as a dumbell rich party guy. He's not a lawyer (thank the Lord), but a businessman who knows how to stay on message. Most Americans have now gotten to know Bush, and tend to like his plain speaking approach.



Maggs swings, it's a drive deep to left! The Tigers are going to the World Series!!!
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29840 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1228 times:

You also have to remember that last time Albert was the VP and that was the next best thing to being a presidential incumbant.

A VP to an 2 term and popular(BLAHH!!!) president should have been a cake-walk for the election. In the end it was his to lose and he lost it. Despite his childish behavior in the days afterward.

That is what people are going to remember about him. That and he invented the internet.



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User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1223 times:

Stretch 8 wrote:

>>Most Americans have now gotten to know Bush, and tend to like his plain speaking approach.

I think that MANY Americans who voted for Bush did so because they were choosing between two substandard candidates. And while they might support Bush's handling of the War, that doesn't really meant that they are jumping at the chance to become members of the "George W. Fan Club." I simply don't see a reason why a strong Democratic candidate like Kerry or Biden wouldn't be able to win the Presidency in 2004, especailly against such a mediocre (IMHO) incumbent.

L-188 wrote:

>>You also have to remember that last time Albert was the VP and that was the next best thing to being a presidential incumbant.

Well, this just proves that Bush's status as the incumbent doesn't guarantee his reelection in 2004.

So who's right? We'll see in 2004!


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1206 times:

But how good are Kerry and Biden?

What have they done in their party and country leadership? The average voter has no clue.

But that same voter sees Bush all the time in the war against terrorism. Either sending Cheney to the Mideast or getting mad at the INS.



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User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

PanAm747 wrote:

>>But how good are Kerry and Biden? What have they done in their party and country leadership? The average voter has no clue.

You're right, the average voter has no clue about them... now. But as 2004 approaches, many voters may begin to realize that their ideas actually make sense. They have plenty of time. Also, I believe that these two candidates' personalities will make them far better candidates than George W. Bush (even though he is an incumbent).

And, of course, no one knows how the rest of Bush's term will turn out; Bush's team may make some major missteps before 2004. Only time will tell.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40076 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1191 times:

It is really pointless to speculate about the 2004 elections.
I doubt any of the above mentioned Democratic candidates will be the party nominee in 2004.
In March of 1990, nobody outside of Arkansas knew who Bill Clinton was. It was expected that Mario Cuomo would run and be the Democratic nominee in 1992. In 1982, it was Ted Kennedy that was expected to be Reagan's foe in the 1984 election. In 1970, Edmund Muskie (D-ME) was leading Nixon by more than 10 points in gallup polls. McGovern got the nomination in 1972 and lost to Nixon in a landslide.

I'd say keep an eye on Grey Davis Ca gov. or Evan Bayh (D-IN).
People tend to vote there pocketbook PERIOD!
War or not, if the economy is in bad shape in 2004, he will get a spanking at the polls just like his Papa.



Bring back the Concorde
25 Mcdougald : Superfly's right about the unpredictability of elections. There are too many cautionary tales about politicians who seemed destined to greatness and t
26 Superfly : Thanks Mcdougald. Another important note. I wouldn't dare to start writting Al Gore's political obituary just yet. Richard Nixon had a pattern similar
27 Post contains images PanAm747 : The Dems need to start planning for tommorow today. If they want to catch up to GWB's money truck, someone really needs to go onto a major fuindraisin
28 NDSchu777 : as much as i hate to quote someone like clinton.... "it's the economy, stupid!" i believe that the condition of the economy at the time of an election
29 IMissPiedmont : Bush/Gore, Gore/Bush, Kerry/Bush, Bush/Kerry, etc, etc. Does anyone really think there is one iota of difference between any of them? The last staesma
30 PanAm747 : Many people say that Carter is a better citizen than a President, with the good he is doing with the "Carter Center" in Atlanta.
31 CLEfan : I will bet if Bush attacks Iraq, his popularity will plummit for a few reasons, 1 being there is no direct evidence to link Iraq with terrorism, oil p
32 Metwrench : DC3Cowboy: We already had a Socialist President! His name was Jimmy Carter.
33 Superfly : Jimmy Carter socialist? Not even! Remember, he was one of those conservative southern Democrats from Joe-ja (Georgia) Those closest the US has had to
34 Metwrench : FDR, or his wife?
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