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User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12239 times:

Hello everyone!

Hopefully, this time this topic won't be removed from the website  
My friend has just got a new girlfriend who is a flight attendant. He is thus very worried about her profession because he's heard a lot of rumors about the relationships between pilots and flight attendants, that they are not faithful to their partners, etc, you understand what I mean. I don't know much about this subject, though I work in aviation, so I can't help him. But I think here are many people who can clarify this situation. This would be interesting for me as well.

Thanks a lot!
Longe

[Edited 2008-11-02 10:18:17]

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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12218 times:

One can't generalize......It depends how faithfull your partner is.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12113 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 12214 times:
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Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
One can't generalize......It depends how faithfull your partner is.
regds
MEL

That is the right answer totally!



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User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12183 times:

Actually I was thinking the same. But, for example, people from Germany - a civilized and strict country - told me they hadn't known more than 5 pilots during 20 years of work in aviation who would have been faithful to their "ground" partners. That is really a scary statistics, I can understand why my friend is so worried...

User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12178 times:



Quoting Longitude (Reply 4):
Actually I was thinking the same. But, for example, people from Germany - a civilized and strict country - told me they hadn't known more than 5 pilots during 20 years of work in aviation who would have been faithful to their "ground" partners. That is really a scary statistics, I can understand why my friend is so worried...

I have been married (and faithful) to the same woman for 24 years, it will be 25 on 19 May. It's all up to the people involved. Being a pilot or flight attendant makes no difference. It's really up to the people involved and the commitment they have for each other.


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12176 times:

I think this is generally played and hyped up by the media, movies, hollywood etc etc.

I know quite a few flight attendants and they couldn't even dream of cheating on their partner.

Does it happen? Yes, absolutely, there is no 100% fool proof to say this never happens. But the odds of it is most likely quite low. Does it differ country by country, airline by airline, but importantly as said, it depends how faithful your partner is, end of discussion. That's really all there is to it.

Alex



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12125 times:

Let's be fair here. Sometimes it's the non-flying partner that does the cheating....


But, like the others have said, a person's propensity to cheat on their partner has little to do with the type of work they (or their partner) does. It all comes down to the individual.


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 12074 times:

I'm a pilot, and my ex was going to be an FA (still on the waiting list), and let me tell ya, she was definitely the type that would have end up sleeping with all the crew on a layover...  Yeah sure

At the airline I used to work for, I heard all sorts of, uhm, "interesting" stories about pilots and F/A's and their "adventures". Mostly though, it was the younger (mid 20s), new hire personnel that would have said encounters. Which I guess, is understandable.

I'm not say they're all like this at all but it definitely does happen and in my former airline it was the norm with the younger crews.

Quoting Longitude (Thread starter):
He is thus very worried about her profession because he's heard a lot of rumors about the relationships between pilots and flight attendants, that they are not faithful to their partners, etc, you understand what I mean.

If he is that worried to begin with, then its a bad idea to have her as a GF, IMO.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
One can't generalize......It depends how faithfull your partner is

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User currently offlineSpeedbirdie From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 917 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 12031 times:

Well being an FA myself I can tell you that it really does depend on the person and if she seems completely trustworthy... I know a LOT of pilots out there who are just only one thing, and not much will stop them on a nightstop... kids, wife, nothing... Trust me... I have been there!

Tell your friend he needs to have 100% trust in her... and wish him luck... lol



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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 12015 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 4):
I have been married (and faithful) to the same woman for 24 years, it will be 25 on 19 May

Welcome to my RU list.

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 6):
But, like the others have said, a person's propensity to cheat on their partner has little to do with the type of work they (or their partner) does. It all comes down to the individual.

Ditto that!

Yes there are FA's, pilots and Mechanics (these guys are the worst for this where I work) who are unfaithful. They would be unfaithful no matter what career they chose. They are just those kinds of people. Most of us are faithful. In fact I have seen many of my FA friends hearts get broken by their cheating non airline SO's.


User currently offlineWunalaYann From Australia, joined Mar 2005, 2839 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11997 times:



Quoting Longitude (Reply 3):
Germany - a civilized and strict country

Strict, for sure. Civilised... Have you been to the Baleares much?  rotfl 

No offence to my German friends, just a poke...  Wink

Now as to the original poster's point, I think that indeed it depends on the person. Although some circumstances (such as a job) may be more favourable to un-gentlemanly/un-lady-like conduct.

If you have an original propensity to wander off path and embark on a career where you will be away from your partner often, and in the company of many attractive colleagues, then it probably does not help...

 Smile


User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11986 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 4):
It's all up to the people involved. Being a pilot or flight attendant makes no difference.

I think that is it exactly. The airline environment may offer more opportunities, but spouses were cheating long before the Wrights thought of flying. If you can't trust them at the airlines, you can't trust them at an office. I can't match Phil's numbers, but I have been married for 10 years and faithful throughout. I think the time apart actually helps, otherwise she would have been sick of me about 8 years ago.



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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8572 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11897 times:
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it also depends on how exactly you define 'faithful' . If someone is emotionally committed to you but has the occassional bout of recreational sex while they are away ( or you do the same while you are left on your on at home ) and there is no emotional commitment to the other party/parties involved then is that really being 'unfaithful' ?


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11860 times:

I guess the lifestyle & constant travel adds to the image that pilots & FAs have,but its not true.some of the most faithfull people belong there.
remember bad apples are everywhere.Be true to yourself & faithfull to the partner & happiness is there to enjoy forever.

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 4):
I have been married (and faithful) to the same woman for 24 years, it will be 25 on 19 May

Congrats.....For us it will be 10yrs of marriage & totally 13 yrs of knowing each other.
Trust is every thing.We have are a small gang of four now.And I know there will always be faith.
Its fun being a dad too.  Smile

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11857 times:

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 12):
If someone is emotionally committed to you but has the occassional bout of recreational sex while they are away ( or you do the same while you are left on your on at home ) and there is no emotional commitment to the other party/parties involved then is that really being 'unfaithful' ?

Yes, to my mind it is. I think that being faithful not only means that you are mentally attached to your partnet but also that you don't allow yourself to do everything you want because it could hurt your partner if they find out about it. Otherwise a person can do whatever with whomever, thinking that it is ok, because he/she is "mentally with his/her partner".

[Edited 2008-11-03 01:38:20]

User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11850 times:



Quoting WunalaYann (Reply 10):


Quoting Longitude (Reply 3):
Germany - a civilized and strict country

Strict, for sure. Civilised... Have you been to the Baleares much?

I have been to Sydney, that is why Germany seems to me civilized  bitelip 

Sorry, that was a joke as well  Smile


User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 11845 times:

Well, as far as I can see, most people agree that is really a matter of person. Actually that is what I told my friend as well, but after he'd spoken to people he doesn't know what to do. He trusts his new girlfriend, but he can't guarantee that she won't do something when she is away. But generally speaking nobody can guarantee it for any person and for any profession.

User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 11803 times:



Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 12):
and there is no emotional commitment to the other party/parties involved then is that really being 'unfaithful' ?

Yes, unless the spouse is fully aware and has given their consent to an open relationship. Anything that you have to hide or that would hurt your partner if they were to find out is unfaithful.


User currently offlineSkyGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 451 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11733 times:



Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 4):
Being a pilot or flight attendant makes no difference. It's really up to the people involved and the commitment they have for each other.



Quoting Lowrider (Reply 11):
I think that is it exactly. The airline environment may offer more opportunities, but spouses were cheating long before the Wrights thought of flying.

Yey for both of these comments. The third most popular question of the day after 'whats your normal route' and 'have you caught anyone in the mile high club' its 'so have you ever hooked up with a pilot?'

Just because you are a flight attendant or a pilot doesnt mean that you are going to cheat on your spouse. Who you are at heart determines that. Do I know f/a's or pilots that will try to get with anything that moves? Oh yes. I also know just as many people outside of work that would do that same. And I know some that only have eyes and such for the person they are with.

The question isn't whether she's going to cheat because she's a flight attendant. It's all about the character of the girl, and whether she's going to take advantage of the situation or not.



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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11692 times:



Quoting SkyGirl (Reply 18):
'so have you ever hooked up with a pilot?'

So, have you?  Wink  duck 

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 12):
it also depends on how exactly you define 'faithful' . If someone is emotionally committed to you but has the occassional bout of recreational sex while they are away ( or you do the same while you are left on your on at home ) and there is no emotional commitment to the other party/parties involved then is that really being 'unfaithful' ?

That would be an open relationship, which is a whole other incredibly complicated and sometimes nasty can of worms  yuck 

The problem comes when one person is acting like they're in an open relationship when the other person is oblivious to that fact or it is being hidden from them.

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 17):
Anything that you have to hide or that would hurt your partner if they were to find out is unfaithful.

Well said.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11608 times:

When Someone trusts you.its the best reward ever,why screw it up.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineTravellerPlus From New Zealand, joined Nov 2008, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11444 times:

From what I have seen, and heard, FA's are desperate to get into bed.... because they are so exhausted after very physical and draining work. They seem to be more keen on lullaby than libido. Maybe the risk is not as great as your friend thinks?

There are plenty of jobs where you have to be seperated from loved ones. Heck, I am studying overseas at the moment and this year I have only seen my partner of 14 years for 5 weeks. We have to spend months apart, not days. The situation I am in has far more risk of infidelity and damage to a relationship. Believe me it takes a lot of commitment to keep the relationship strong. My advice to your friend is that he needs to talk about his concerns, yet be brave and self-confident enough to support her in her job. Feelings of insecurity and lack of trust may become self fulfilling if he worries too much about it. He needs to listen to her needs as well and find ways to be part of her life when she is on the road.

As I have found in my seperation, taking a positive attitude and learning from the challenges has enriched us both. Our relationship is deeper and stronger as a result.

Respectfully yours, TravellerPlus



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User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 11273 times:



Quoting TravellerPlus (Reply 21):
From what I have seen, and heard, FA's are desperate to get into bed.... because they are so exhausted after very physical and draining work. They seem to be more keen on lullaby than libido.

That's me for this trip for sure. Long 15-16 hour duty days with minimum rest layovers. I am worn out. Barely enough energy to catch up on my email and stuff.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11206 times:



Quoting TravellerPlus (Reply 21):
Believe me it takes a lot of commitment to keep the relationship strong.

Look at it this way.....If someone is not faithfull it was never your fault in the 1st place.
hence "trust" is the key word here.

regds
MEL



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