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Could It Be Obama Is Actually..... Cuban?  
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

I just saw this on a Spanish channel but haven't heard anything in the mainstream news

Only a few online blogs about it, but nothing verified yet:

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.c...wse_thread/thread/b179741f56122a4e

http://www.babalublog.com/archives/010416.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2124007/posts


" a number of Sagua la Grande residents interviewed assured the news agencies the Cundo family were in the shoe shining business and that one of them identified as Francisco, had an affair with a young communist American girl member of a voluntary work brigade in the early1960s "

" Francisco has declared he awaits the Illinois senator to claim him in order to attend the celebration of his son's election victory "

(photo which could be a fake, of the alleged man included) sorry in Spanish only:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m0AGj5Om7_...c/XrlQo__GR3g/s1600-h/image001.jpg


lol if true

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User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10897 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else. Nobody knows for sure except those who were in the right place at the time he was born.


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2505 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else.

Not true, his birth certificate was supplied, authenticated, and sealed in HI.

The man was born in Hawai'i. Get with the times.


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

And now what ? Are they gonna say he's Iraki ? North Korean ? Who cares, he is a US citizen proved to be born on U.S territory and thus an eligible president. Mc Cain on the other hand, was born in a place which is actually no longer under U.S administration (i.e Panama canal zone)

    

[Edited 2008-11-04 02:38:19]


A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2499 times:



Quoting RootsAir (Reply 3):
Mc Cain on the other hand, was born in a place which is actually no longer under U.S administration (i.e Panama canal zone)

It was at the point/time when he was born... and even if it wasn't, it still wouldn't have mattered, as he was born under the property auspices of a US military base.


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3298 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2478 times:

God these conspiracy theories are so funny, but they're getting really old.

Barack HUSSEIN (OMG people, it's a name, get over it) Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a U.S. citizen.

He's also not the antichrist (one of the funnier things I've seen him alleged to be).

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2464 times:

One thing is fore sure, Obama looks nothing like his supposed Kenyan father.

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 3):
And now what ? Are they gonna say he's Iraki ? North Korean ? Who cares, he is a US citizen proved to be born on U.S territory and thus an eligible president

Relax with the drama. It doesn't really take that much brain power to realize If she was only a few months pregnant while leaving Cuba it means he was born somewhere else right? So he'd technically still be Hawaiian.

Might want to check if he's cut or uncut though, to be sure...


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10897 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2453 times:



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 6):
So he'd technically still be Hawaiian.

He can't be Hawaiian if he has no Hawaiian blood. Being born in Hawaii does not qualify one as being Hawaiian.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2440 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):
He's also not the antichrist (one of the funnier things I've seen him alleged to be).

Good one, Longhornmaniac!

Strange - I really do think that we are on the verge of a truly-historic event. One that, in the course of time, the people of the United States will come to be rightly very proud of. An event on a par with the Declaration of Independence and the Emancipation Proclamation.

If you'd asked me even two months ago, I'd have said (and I know the place pretty well, and love it too) that I doubted that the United States was ready to elect a non-white. But all the signs are that I'd have been wrong.

My thoughts go back to a (very eloquent) ex-slave named Frederick Douglass, who was one of Lincoln's advisers back in 1862 - waiting in the telegraph office in Boston for the text of the Emancipation Proclamation to come through:-

"We were waiting and listening as for a bolt from the sky...we were watching...by the dim light of the stars for the dawn of a new day...we were longing for the answer to the agonizing prayers of centuries."



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5855 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2421 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else. Nobody knows for sure except those who were in the right place at the time he was born.

do yourself a favour and get up to speed before making stupid comments, while your at it check the birth announcement from 1961 in the Honolulu Times.

your true colours are clearly evident.



a true friend is someone who sees the pain in your eyes, while everyone else believes the smile on your face.
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2400 times:



Quoting NAV20 (Reply 8):
Good one, Longhornmaniac!

amazing...


Makes no difference to me if he was born in Hawaii or China. There should be more important things to question about the man (like his character) for example

As long as someone has experienced living in the US for many years that's all that should matter, really. A long track record of public service should count as well  Wink

I just thought this news was curious, that's all

But since extreme liberal lefties want to get sour about nothing like always, here's what I think this does: It sure raises more speculation about someone who has been tied to people with crazy ideas and lifestyles, starting with his own mother. Too much effort in portraying an iconic image that doesn't seem congruent.


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2394 times:



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 6):
Might want to check if he's cut or uncut though, to be sure...

Nah I might wanna realise someone hasn't gotten mature enough to move on and get over with discussions and tensions 2years old

 airplane  wave 



A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19708 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2390 times:



Quoting RootsAir (Reply 3):
And now what ? Are they gonna say he's Iraki ? North Korean ? Who cares, he is a US citizen proved to be born on U.S territory and thus an eligible president. Mc Cain on the other hand, was born in a place which is actually no longer under U.S administration (i.e Panama canal zone)

Come off it. The U.S. Constitution states that the President has to be a "Natural-born citizen." At no point does it state that he has to be born within the U.S. Even if it did, he was born on a U.S. military base, which can be considered U.S. territory.

However, either way, the son of two American military personnel born on a U.S. base is clearly a natural-born American citizen and I challenge the loyalty to his country of any American who would argue the point.


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10897 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2390 times:



Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 9):
your true colours are clearly evident.

Whether you like it or not, my "true colours" (as you call them) are for neither Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin.

If I had US citizenship I would vote for a 3rd Party candidate, most probably for Ralph Nader, either that or one of the others, i.e. Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinney or Chuck Baldwin.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4106 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2333 times:



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 10):
But since extreme liberal lefties want to get sour about nothing like always, here's what I think this does: It sure raises more speculation about someone who has been tied to people with crazy ideas and lifestyles, starting with his own mother. Too much effort in portraying an iconic image that doesn't seem congruent.

Who's getting sour? I think it was the extreme radical right that was putting out these ridiculous theories about Obama's citizenship anyhow...


User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2238 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 7):
He can't be Hawaiian if he has no Hawaiian blood. Being born in Hawaii does not qualify one as being Hawaiian.

Take that to its logical conclusion, and the population of "natural" Americans nation-wide would be very small indeed.

I don't understand this obsession with place of birth. I know what the Constitution says, and I understand why the provision was put in in the late 1700s. But surely more than 200 years later there's no need for it. It creates almost hilarious constructs: a person born in the US and whisked away at birth for an upbringing in some fascist republic (Cuba?) is an eligible presidential candidate when he/she returns to claim rightful citizenship; a person born in Cuba (or Austria?) is whisked away at birth and raised entirely in the US -- and they're not an eligible candidate for president?

People on the right would be delighted if someone could prove that Obama was born outside the US; they're almost delusional in their passion about it. Even better if they could prove he's a Muslim, too. Funny that this happens in a country that fought a revolution to get away from the divine right of kings.



Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
User currently offlineAirportSeven From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2224 times:



Quoting Arrow (Reply 15):
I don't understand this obsession with place of birth.

The obsession is with keeping a Marxist, Socialist, Communist Muslim with African ancestry from becoming president of the United States.

Yeah, they are grasping at straws, but when you are sinking into the abyss you'll grab at any damned thing to try to keep yourself afloat.


User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
The candidate Barack Hussein Obama did not provide his medical records or birth certificate so he could de facto be born in Hawaii or Kenya or Cuba or anywhere else. Nobody knows for sure except those who were in the right place at the time he was born.

What source do you have to back that up. Maybe this web site?

< http://comments.obamacrimes.com/ >

Unsuprisingly the lawsuit filled by Philip Berg was thrown out by a federal judge. Which is good becasue the guy is a total nutter.

[Edited 2008-11-04 09:07:30]

User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6816 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2189 times:



Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 2):
Not true, his birth certificate was supplied, authenticated, and sealed in HI.

The man was born in Hawai'i. Get with the times.

Makes me wonder though, why can't we see it? Where is the validation of his native birth?

Hey, if he's born in HI, fine. No harm in seeing it then, huh?


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11657 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2182 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):
He's also not the antichrist (one of the funnier things I've seen him alleged to be).

I saw a show on History Channel last year about the anti-Christ. Most scholars believe this anti-Christ person is very charismatic and able to pursuade large groups of people. However, scholars also believe the anti-Christ is/will be born in Greece, Albania, or the former Yugoslavia and NOT in North America. Since some now believe Obama was born in Cuba, that is part of North America and therefore, he is NOT the anti-Christ.

The other interesting thing is: I listen to both liberal and "main stream" talk radio (Air America and Rush/Hannity) and the interesting thing I have found is the liberal talk radio is behind Obama and gives reasons to stand behind Obama, but the "main stream" (read: Right wing) talk radio that trashes Obama instead of standing up for John Sidney McCain III. Right wing talk radio uses phrases like "anti-Christ" and "messiah" and his middle name when referring to Obama, yet does very little to convince people to vote for John Sidney McCain III, just why people should vote against Obama.



Life in the wall is a drag.
User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6816 posts, RR: 34
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2178 times:



Quoting Seb146 (Reply 20):
Right wing talk radio uses phrases like "anti-Christ" and "messiah" and his middle name when referring to Obama, yet does very little to convince people to vote for John Sidney McCain III, just why people should vote against Obama.

Actually, I thought it was the mainstream media that had already anointed him the messiah…


User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3068 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2176 times:



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 6):
Might want to check if he's cut or uncut though, to be sure...

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Well, that could put the Muslim rumors to rest once and for all! Big grin



Able to kill active threads stone dead with a single post!
User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2141 times:



Quoting Slider (Reply 19):
Makes me wonder though, why can't we see it? Where is the validation of his native birth?

All you gotta do is look, friend.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6000 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2139 times:



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Thread starter):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m0AGj5Om7_...c/XrlQo__GR3g/s1600-h/image001.jpg

Jesus christ, if that's not a shop - and a poor one at that - I don't know what is.

Quoting Slider (Reply 19):
Makes me wonder though, why can't we see it? Where is the validation of his native birth?

Hey, if he's born in HI, fine. No harm in seeing it then, huh?

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-recor...s/vital-records/vital_records.html knock yourself out, only $23.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html these people did (scroll down), there's even pictures!


User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3068 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2128 times:



Quoting CPH-R (Reply 24):
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Thread starter):
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m0AGj5Om7_...c/XrlQo__GR3g/s1600-h/image001.jpg

Jesus christ, if that's not a shop - and a poor one at that - I don't know what is.

Agreed 100%! Jeez, I could do a better PhotoShop job than that!

Furthermore, how hard is it to find an actual guy of Cuban descent who at least somewhat resembles Mr. Obama without resorting to such a cheesy and obviously faked ploy?



Able to kill active threads stone dead with a single post!
25 LMP737 : Can you prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt where past presidents and presidential canidates were born? I have a feeling if Obama were to open up
26 Post contains links Bok269 : Does this work for you? http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
27 Post contains images Rleiro : Obama is Venezuelan, I can prove it! Saludos, Roberto.
28 Santosdumont : " target=_blank>http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m0AGj5Om7_...1.jpg Mighty contemporary threads for 1959...not to mention the sharp color of the picture. Lo
29 LMP737 : I stand corrected.
30 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : Precisely the "sour" reaction I was expecting. I guess the shoe fit he's now related to Chavez (who endorsed him) I agree that excuse is lame, about
31 Arrow : You seem to be suggesting he isn't. Why? Or are you just accusing him of hypocrisy, lumping him in with 90% of all the other folks who say they are C
32 MIAMIx707 : Don't take it personal. I don't think BHO is very honest. Hopefully you can deal with that instead of being like 90% of sour lefties who start mudsli
33 Marquis : So just in case he was gay, the term "Communism through the backdoor" would get a whole new meaning...
34 Kmh1956 : Thank you for a post with common sense. Careful, your vitriol is hanging out.
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