MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6242 posts, RR: 51 Posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1018 times:
Did anyone happen to catch the attendance for the NBA games in CLT and MEM last night? A little over 11,000 reported in CLT, and a little over 10,000 in MEM....just the 2nd home game for both teams. And honestly, judging by what I saw on NBA League Pass, if they that many people at those games, it'd be the surprise of the century.
Are Charlotte fans just not that interested in the NBA since the Hornets left? I know the city has supported teams well in the past, but I know the Bobcats haven't been as big of a hit in the city as the Hornets were from an attendance standpoint. As for MEM...its season ticket base has been declining for the past several years from what I have read...I'm not sure how many more years the NBA will give the city in order to get behind the team. The FedEx Forum (very nice venue) looks like a tomb during most home games.
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1012 times:
The Hornets came out and won back in 88 when they entered the league. The Bobcats are the Tampa Bay Rays of the NBA right now. They come in and stunk while other teams in the league (ie - D-backs, Rockies, etc.) who came in at the same time or later and WON.
As for the Memphis Grizzlies, they are like the Oakland A's of the NBA. They cycle through players like people cycle through underwear. Memphis has no players that they can attach to before they are traded or leave via free agency. I don't blame the fans after the Griz gave away Pau Gasol last year. If the fans don't have a long standing fan favorite (Ben Gordon in Chicago, Michael Redd in Milwaukee, Kobe in Los Angeles, etc) they won't follow the team.
Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
Borderline cities (with not so great teams like Charlotte, Memphis, Atlanta,) will continue to see declines in attendance due to the economy, just like baseball did this past season. The NBA has some serious issues in public perception, which in turn is causing the causal fan to question the integrity of the league that will only get fixed when Stern and company is shown the door. That's just my
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 999 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 2): see declines in attendance due to the economy, just like baseball did this past season.
Baseball suffered??? Thats why they broke an ALL TIME attendance record? I don't think baseball suffered this recently completed season, but it will next season with ticket price increases.
Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
Garnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5244 posts, RR: 55 Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 995 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 2): Borderline cities (with not so great teams like Charlotte, Memphis, Atlanta,) will continue to see declines in attendance due to the economy
Especially a city like Charlotte which is so heavily tied to banking.
South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 990 times:
Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 3):
Baseball suffered??? Thats why they broke an ALL TIME attendance record? I
Not in 2008, http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Oct.../0,4670,BBOAttendanceDrop,00.html, it was down 1.1% and next year attendance will decline even more since the Mets and Yankees are moving into smaller parks. This past season in some teams like the D-Backs offered deeply discounted tickets, 2 for 1, in an effort to boost attendance.
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 988 times:
MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6242 posts, RR: 51 Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 971 times:
StuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1781 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 964 times:
The NBA has demonstrated that fan support isn't even enough to keep a team in a city (Seattle).
Personal relationships between Stern and rich investors and the unsustainable growth in player salaries and team payroll are problems which will require change. When teams have bad years (which happens to every team), attendance will drop (it may take a season or two) unless, perhaps, you're talking about NY or Boston. All it takes then is the owner to demand a new arena - - financed by the public - - and it's all over.
I think there should be laws dictating how much public financing can be put into arenas and stadiums.
The way it is now, every decade some number of teams will move from one city to another - not always with good reason.
FXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7023 posts, RR: 93 Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 958 times:
Marc Gasol, Pau's little brother looks like a star in the making. I caught the last 2 quarters of the Grizzlies game from League Pass last night. Fred Smith has a box suite at the FedEx Forum.
LTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 51 Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 952 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 5): next year attendance will decline even more since the Mets and Yankees are moving into smaller parks.
What do you mean? I was under the impression that, at least in the case of the Yankees, New Yankee Stadium is only slightly smaller (by a margin of 2000 or 3000) than the old Yankee Stadium. I don't know about the new Mets Stadium when compared to Shea Stadium so no judgement tehre.
MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6242 posts, RR: 51 Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 949 times:
Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 9): All it takes then is the owner to demand a new arena - - financed by the public - - and it's all over.
Yeah, it's really pathetic what the owners enjoy doing. Screw the fans. There's no reason why SEA of all places shouldn't have a team. It all boils down to greed and the almighty dollar.
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 944 times:
Quoting FXramper (Reply 10): Marc Gasol, Pau's little brother looks like a star in the making.
So did Pau, he just needed a real team and got that with the trade to the Lakers.
Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
Dragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3920 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 918 times:
Quoting LTU932 (Reply 11): don't know about the new Mets Stadium when compared to Shea Stadium so no judgement tehre.
57,333 for the old Shea Stadium and 45,000 (approx.) for the new Citi Field.
Nkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2543 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 910 times:
Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 8): Surprisingly, PHL is the lowest in the league right now
Thats wierd.. especially considering PHL made the playoffs last year... but attendance starting going down when Iverson left... hopefully, the team will do well with Brand and attendance will pick up.
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 879 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 14): I wonder how many good free-agents will want to sign and play in OKC?
In the NBA I'd actually think OKC has a better shot of getting a big name than SEA, if not so much the money, as its very centerally located in the country and no flight will be more than maybe 3 hours. Imagine knowing you were going SEA-BOS and MIA once a year, those are some LOOOOONNNNNG flights compared to OKC.
Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
Gunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3460 posts, RR: 11 Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 815 times:
Rest assured, David Stern and Steve Ballmer will set to spiriting one of these teams (or Milwaukee) out of their current cities and off to Seattle sometime in the next few years. After Clay Bennett's path from Seattle to OKC was cleared and David Stern suddenly decided that a renovated Key Arena would be a perfectly acceptable home for an NBA team (in complete contrast with his earlier statements), it was pretty clear that the plan has always been to get Bennett his team in OKC and ship the first flagging franchise in sight off to Seattle to reward "41 years of loyalty to the NBA". Just wait and see...
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 795 times:
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 18): will set to spiriting one of these teams (or Milwaukee)
Pretty hard to move a team like Milwaukee anywhere but somewhere in Wisconsin when you look at who the owner is. Sen. Herb Kohl, the founder of Kohl's Department stores, and majority owner of the Bucks. He wouldn't sell to Michael Jordan for fear that the team would be moved to North Carolina under Jordan's power. He's promised to keep the Bucks in Milwaukee no matter what it takes. He's donated nearly $100million to University of Wisconsin-Madison (his alum) for sports facilities, and I doubt he'd sell to anybody from out of town, unless his name was Mark Attanasio right now.
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I wonder how many good free-agents will want to sign and play in OKC?
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