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Hillary Clinton To Accept Secretary Of State Offer  
User currently offlineBlrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1426 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Hillary Clinton to accept Obama's offer of secretary of state job

Quote:
Hillary Clinton plans to accept the job of secretary of state offered by Barack Obama, who is reaching out to former rivals to build a broad coalition administration, the Guardian has learned.

Obama's advisers have begun looking into Bill Clinton's foundation, which distributes millions of dollars to Africa to help with development, to ensure that there is no conflict of interest. But Democrats do not believe that the vetting is likely to be a problem.

Looks like Hillary will be the next secretary of state.

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User currently offlineOswegobag From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

Wow! UK gets the news before I heard about it in the US... haha

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

I would hope that this isn't true.

-Mir



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User currently onlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40034 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

....and Nydia Velázquez is expected to replace her in the Senate.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...elazquez_is_frontrunner_for_s.html



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User currently offlineLuckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2407 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 2):
I would hope that this isn't true.

I for one would hope it is. She is much less effective there than in the Senate or on the SCOTUS, which is where I was expecting her to end up, though she still may.


User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2362 times:



Quoting DXing:
Sec State is the stepping stone she needs to secure her Supreme Court nomination. The big question is, did anyone in New York ever really believe she wanted to be their Senator?

Politicians are sleazy. Why people like Hillary or Elizabeth Dole move to states where they know (or think, as Mrs. Dole pointed out) they can win easily will remain a mystery. Why voters send them to office is an even bigger mystery.

I am a bit apprehensive about Clinton working in the Obama campaign. After a very long primary season with a lot of words exchanged, it'll be a challenge for them to work together. The Senator from Punjab may still have a chip on the shoulder after being one-upped by Reverend Wright's adopted son. Clinton is more than capable of serving the role so there is some hope that everything will be fine.



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User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2355 times:



Quoting N867DA (Reply 6):
or think, as Mrs. Dole pointed out) they can win easily will remain a mystery. Why voters send them to office is an even bigger mystery.

At least Hillary showed outwardly that she like NY. I read a report that Elizabeth Dole was in North Carolina a total of 16 times in one year...thats just 2 out of 56 weeks of the year.

Doesn't show much commitment if you ask me.



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9500 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2345 times:



Quoting N867DA (Reply 6):
it'll be a challenge for them to work together

that's the point.

Quoting Oswegobag (Reply 1):
Wow! UK gets the news before I heard about it in the US... haha

?

it's been in the news for 3 days now.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2306 times:

So much for the message of change Obama preached since the primaries...  Yeah sure

User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Well this would put her 4th in line for President. I am sure she would take the shot at being in line for President.

Hopefully he will work well with her because well, anyone heard of the Clinton 50?  Wow!



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2269 times:

Show me a reliable news source please?

Bill Clinton's Foreign Affairs Could Cost Hillary Secretary Post


Obama would already be committing political suicide with this choice.

With Election Day less than a week away, presidential candidate Barack Obama said if elected he would choose a bipartisan Cabinet

Obama: My Cabinet Would Be Bipartisan

Hilary Clinton is not bipartisan in anyway.



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User currently offlineDXing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2264 times:



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 11):
Well this would put her 4th in line for President.

 rotfl   rotfl  President Pelosi and Vice President Clinton.....somebody get the mud pit ready for some wrastlin!!!!  rotfl   rotfl 


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2259 times:



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 11):
Well this would put her 4th in line for President.

I thought the Secretary of Defence is 4th in line.


User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2250 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 14):
I thought the Secretary of Defence is 4th in line.

I think it is 6th in line



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2244 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 14):
Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 11):
Well this would put her 4th in line for President.

I thought the Secretary of Defence is 4th in line.

Vice President
Speaker of the House of Reps.
President pro tempore of the Senate
Secretary of State
Secretary of Treasury
Secretary of Defense
Attorney General



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2240 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 16):
Vice President
Speaker of the House of Reps.
President pro tempore of the Senate
Secretary of State
Secretary of Treasury
Secretary of Defense
Attorney General

Thanks. I wasn't quite sure about the order of succession for a president outside of an election.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9263 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2240 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 14):
I thought the Secretary of Defence is 4th in line.

President...

1) VP
2) Speaker of the House
3) President Pro Tempore
4) Secretary of State
5) Secretary of Tresury
6) Secretary of Defense
7) Attourney General

Then, Secretaries of:
8) Interior
9) Agriculture
10) Commerce
11) Labor
12) Health and Human Services
13) Housing and Urban Development
14) Transportation
15) Energy
16) Education
17) Veteran Affairs
18) Homeland Security

Courtesy of: http://ask.yahoo.com/20060407.html

I hope that helps  Smile

As for this bit with Clinton, I'm not a fan of it either. Having her in any part of the cabinet will make his administration take one quantum leap to the left. If she becomes a Supreme Court Justice, oy...vey!



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User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

Since we are on this tangent, here's a quick question: When they say fourth in line to be president, what does it mean? Suppose by some catastrophe the president passes away. Then his VP becomes president. Does the VP get to choose a new VP or does the Speaker of the House automatically become the new VP? I think it'd make more sense to let the new president choose his new VP since the speaker of the house may be from a different party.

If fourth in line requires the president, vice president, and speaker of the house to pass away at the same instant, then the odds of Hillary becoming president is probably very small. Almost negligible.



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User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2215 times:



Quoting N867DA (Reply 19):
the odds of Hillary becoming president is probably very small

I dont know, ANYTHING is possible with the Clinton family  Wink  duck 

I'm tellin ya...the "Clinton 50" or the "Clinton Hit List". Take a look on google sometime.

Back on subject, Is Obama planning on putting any Republicans or Independance in his cabnate? Just wondering if he is saying he wants "bi-partisan" people.



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2200 times:



Quoting QXatFAT (Reply 20):
Is Obama planning on putting any Republicans or Independance in his cabnate? Just wondering if he is saying he wants "bi-partisan" people.

Yes so he says... Obama Pledges to Appoint Republican to Cabinet



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20243 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

Wait a minute...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/17/clinton.cabinet/index.html

This says nothing about her accepting the position or it even having been offered.

I'm confused.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21801 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2181 times:



Quoting N867DA (Reply 19):
Since we are on this tangent, here's a quick question: When they say fourth in line to be president, what does it mean? Suppose by some catastrophe the president passes away. Then his VP becomes president. Does the VP get to choose a new VP or does the Speaker of the House automatically become the new VP? I think it'd make more sense to let the new president choose his new VP since the speaker of the house may be from a different party.

The VP would become president, and then they would get to appoint their own VP (would have to be confirmed by Congress). If the original VP then got killed, then the new VP would rise to the president's office, and they'd have to pick a new VP the same way.

But if some terrorist group is really committed (and really lucky), and takes out the President, VP, and Speaker of the House, then the President Pro Temp of the Senate becomes President, they pick a VP who has to be confirmed by Congress, etc.

So the only way that the Secretary of Homeland Security can become president is if all other people in the line of succession are killed at the same time.

-Mir



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User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2181 times:



Quoting N867DA (Reply 19):
When they say fourth in line to be president, what does it mean? Suppose by some catastrophe the president passes away. Then his VP becomes president. Does the VP get to choose a new VP or does the Speaker of the House automatically become the new VP? I think it'd make more sense to let the new president choose his new VP since the speaker of the house may be from a different party.

Section 2 of the 25th Amendment provides that "Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20243 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2169 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 23):


So the only way that the Secretary of Homeland Security can become president is if all other people in the line of succession are killed at the same time.

 checkmark 

Basically, this line of succession is in place as a very "just-in-case" sort of measure. I hope that it never has to be used since the only way I can imagine that it would happen is if a large nuclear bomb happened to explode over D.C. when the P, VP, SoH, President pro tem were all there, but the SoC were off overseas. At this point, I think the idea that Hillary would become President and her policies on this, that, and the other thing, really becomes secondary.

At that point you just need to know who is in charge, and it would be Hillary and I would not envy her one bit.

This is why, BTW, you very rarely see both P and VP appearing at the same time in the same place after the election. It is done occasionally and the Secret Service HATES it, but it's kept to a minimum. They generally do not meet much in person and if they do need to meet, it's usually done via teleconference so that they are at a minimum across town.


User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6647 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (6 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2172 times:
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Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 16):

Vice President
Speaker of the House of Reps.
President pro tempore of the Senate
Secretary of State
Secretary of Treasury
Secretary of Defense
Attorney General

So what is the "lowest" it has ever gotten? (BSG references not required  Smile)



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25 Haggis79 : really? I was under the impression that at least Bush and Cheyney met (and probably still meet) quite frequently in the White House...? Doesn't Cheyn
26 Tugger : Sorry, I can't resist, 56 weeks? Really? I always thought it was 52 weeks. Tugg
27 LTU932 : So, to put it bluntly, you'd have to kill pretty much the entire cabinet, as well as the leadership of Congress along with President and Vice Preside
28 TSS : After the Watergate scandal and Nixon's impeachment, Secretary of State Gerald Ford became president.
29 Post contains links Tugger : Actually, Ford was the House Minority Leader when he was selected by Nixon to be Vice-President after Spiro Agnew resigned. It was the first time the
30 Mortyman : The title of this thread is missleading. Hillary has not accepted anything so far......
31 LTBEWR : I have deep problems with HRC being Sec. of State. First of all, she was one of the US Senators who voted for the war in Iraq, mainly out of fear of l
32 DXing : Thanks Tugger, I was suspicious of there being no VP for either Johnson or Truman and so went back and checked. Astonishingly enough, the country had
33 ME AVN FAN : - Why not. She is far more popular around the globe than in her own country. And she already was active as a kind of "Secondary Foreign Minister" whe
34 Beaucaire : Personally I also would prefer a more "neutral" personality as Secretary of State -Hillary has had intensive fund-raising contacts with Israeli-lobby
35 JetBlueGuy2006 : How do you know what goes on inside his foundation(s)? Do you work for either one? Or are you just basing it on what the media is saying, because we
36 WILCO737 : Guys, this thread is getting out of control and will be locked now. WILCO737 (MD11F)
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