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BNP Membership List Leaked Onto Internet  
User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4276 times:

http://bnpmemberslist.blogspot.com/

These scumbags deserve whatever they get from now, a few select quotes from some members since the "leak".

" I've just had a call, I'm on it to. I want my ******* member money back, like has been mentioned here, I could lose my ******* job. I'm bloody angry"

"**** me, the reds have the list now."

Cannot imagine the hatred which would be required to sign up with the BNP.

According to The Guardian, "One BNP member is listed as a Church of England vicar."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...08/nov/18/bnp-membership-list-leak

Good - thats all I can say.

Love how some of them say "has requested complete confidentiality"

Alex

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User currently offlineCainanuk From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 551 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4265 times:

Not a member of the BNP myself mind you, but is it (the BNP) not a recognised political party with members serving as MP's in local councils and the House of Commons? Why should anyone lose their jobs for being a member. It is no more illegal (distasteful, mabey to some, but certainly not illegal) to be a member of the BNP than to be a registered Tory or a member of the Labour Party.


Cainan Cornelius
User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1009 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4259 times:

Disgusting invasion of privacy.

If Britain thinks the BNP are a bunch of fools (which they are), they should let it be known in the voter's booth.



A nation turns its lonely eyes to you
User currently offlineJoshSixtySeven From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4256 times:

I don't agree with this. Political beliefs are individual and should be treated with privacy.

I especially don't agree with the topic starter who is clearly lacking both intelligence and the ability to live in a society where more than one political idea is around.

Alex, by you commenting in the way you have done, you've made yourself nothing other than a hypocrite.

Congratulations.


User currently offlineSpeedBirdA380 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4245 times:



Quoting Cainanuk (Reply 1):
Not a member of the BNP myself mind you, but is it (the BNP) not a recognised political party with members serving as MP's in local councils and the House of Commons? Why should anyone lose their jobs for being a member.

Good point.

I thought that was pretty much the whole point of living in a democracy. That you were entilted to believe what you wanted to believe without living in fear of persecution.


User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4244 times:



Quoting N867DA (Reply 2):
Disgusting invasion of privacy.

Similar to the loss of millions of benefits information earlier this year - except they weren't vicious racists.

Quoting JoshSixtySeven (Reply 3):
I especially don't agree with the topic starter who is clearly lacking both intelligence and the ability to live in a society where more than one political idea is around.

Well, if bigoted racism is an accepted view of sorts - then you must think you live in a pretty different place from most people.


User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4241 times:



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 4):
I thought that was pretty much the whole point of living in a democracy. That you were entilted to believe what you wanted to believe without living in fear of persecution.

Then why are they so afraid of it?

I didn't leak this information, The Guardian/Telegraph let the majority of the public know about it - I just happen to despise racist bigots, as most sane people should quite frankly.


User currently offlineN867DA From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1009 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4233 times:



Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 6):
I didn't leak this information, The Guardian/Telegraph let the majority of the public know about it - I just happen to despise racist bigots, as most sane people should quite frankly.

The laws that apply to you and me also apply to racists. If I have an expectation of privacy they do too. That they are racists is simply a minor detail. I 'despise racist bigots' as much as the next person but the law must be applied without considering what political views are championed by the group.

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 6):
Then why are they so afraid of it?

Probably because they know there will be backlash. Remember the BNP ballerina?



A nation turns its lonely eyes to you
User currently offlineJoshSixtySeven From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4236 times:



Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 5):
Well, if bigoted racism is an accepted view of sorts - then you must think you live in a pretty different place from most people.

So how about you share your details on here, right now.

Post your address, email address, phone number, occupation etc etc

Big shot


User currently offlineSpeedBirdA380 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 4209 times:



Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 6):
I just happen to despise racist bigots, as most sane people should quite frankly.

I despise them too.


But the question is in a free country such as Britain shouldn't these people be able to be a member of a party and believe what they want to believe without having their personal details shown to the whole world because most people disagree with them?


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4188 times:

So what is the BNP? Anyone care to help a non-Brit out?

User currently offlineJoshSixtySeven From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4168 times:



Quoting MD-90 (Reply 10):
So what is the BNP? Anyone care to help a non-Brit out?

British National Party.

Lead by Nick Grffin, a party that focuses on British nationals and the best possible for them. They believe on tight immigration laws and regulation on migrant workers.

A very right-wing ground, deemed "racist" by a large %age of the British population, probably due to the fact Nick Griffin was tried to racism on a couple (I think) of occasions in the past decade.


User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4026 times:



Quoting JoshSixtySeven (Reply 8):
So how about you share your details on here, right now.

Why? That doesn't make any sense - it seems it was the guardian/telegraph that leaked the information - that has nothing to do with me, I am not a bigoted racist. Why not share your information if you are so keen to get people doing the same?

Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 9):
But the question is in a free country such as Britain shouldn't these people be able to be a member of a party and believe what they want to believe without having their personal details shown to the whole world because most people disagree with them?

It wasn't expected that this information was going to be published...

Quoting JoshSixtySeven (Reply 11):
A very right-wing ground, deemed "racist" by a large %age of the British population, probably due to the fact Nick Griffin was tried to racism on a couple (I think) of occasions in the past decade.

Or deemed racist because a large majority of the members were members of the national front, and there is widespread documentation of extremely racist speeches and meetings at BNP conferences?


User currently offlineDavehammer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3997 times:



Quoting JoshSixtySeven (Reply 11):
Lead by Nick Grffin, a party that focuses on British nationals and the best possible for them. They believe on tight immigration laws and regulation on migrant workers.

That's a nice way of putting it. They believe in 'voluntary repatriation' of recent immigrants. Luckily they have a few seats on councils here and there and one in the London assembly. Despicable racists that they are however, they still have the right to privacy just like anyone else.


User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3842 times:



Quoting Davehammer (Reply 13):
Despicable racists that they are however, they still have the right to privacy just like anyone else.

Agreed - I was never saying that because they are racists, it means they should not have privacy.

I find the fact that they are allowed to continue with a "whites only" membership policy absolutely disgusting.


User currently offlineSpeedBirdA380 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

Radio DJ Rod Lucas axed after appearing on BNP membership list

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5189610.ece


User currently offlineSpeedBirdA380 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3762 times:



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 9):
I despise them too.

A bit off topic but I just thought to myself isnt it strange that I said "I despise them too" when I actually know absolutely nothing about the BNP.


Im not saying I have any love for them but just realising to myself how conditioned we are by society and the media etc...to hate something that goes against the mainstream when a lot of people who hate them probably dont even know one of their policie's!


Just a thought.....


User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

Red scare anyone? Black listing...

How Orwellian.

I'm not familiar with this group...clearly they wouldn't cut the mustard in most modern societies judging by the few snippets of their views I've been able to read...but one has to ask, where does it end?

I shudder to think that membership lists from the RNC or DNC could be used to decide whose lives to ruin here in the states. And those parties are mainstream! But imagine if only one took over. I mean listen to the right wing and left wing nuts from the US on these boards...they would gladly have whole families murdered and tossed into mass graves if they appeared on the list of their hated party. Don't let them tell you otherwise! All it takes is having all the power. This is why I refuse to register with a political party. I am to be judged on character...not on who I vote for. A democracy should respect an individual's rights. EDIT ...for ALL individuals!

This BNP is obviously a nutty fringe group, much like communist or neo-nazi parties. Nevertheless, posting all of their information for all to see is a gross ethical violation. Even scumbags have a right to privacy.

  B4e-Forever New Frontiers  

[Edited 2008-11-19 08:39:08]

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3669 times:



Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 17):
Even scumbags have a right to privacy

Yeah maybe. But good for the guys that uncovered them and shamed them for us all to condemn.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineSpeedBirdA380 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 539 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3668 times:



Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 17):
Black listing...

How Orwellian.



Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 17):
I am to be judged on character...not on who I vote for. A democracy should respect an individual's rights. EDIT ...for ALL individuals!

Wow just found this on BBC.com. Government rules about being a member of the BNP-


Police and prison officers: Banned

Council and NHS employees: Not banned but would be disciplined if beliefs interfered with job

Union members: Under new laws BNP members could be expelled if judged to be incompatible with the union's beliefs

Armed forces personnel: Not explicitly banned but personnel are barred from political activity or demonstration


Seems the UK is not the democracy it makes out to be.  Wow!


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13229 posts, RR: 77
Reply 20, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3617 times:

I think a few major issues are being missed here.

There is a notorious site, called Redwatch , which is linked to BNP members, which publishes details of who they hate (potentially almost unlimited in size then!), with also clear incitements to violence against them..
So BNP, how does it feel?

Then we have the BNP using an act of parliament in this case, which they are supposed to be against.
Incredibly, some even see this result of (yet another) internal BNP feud, as 'proof' they are living in a 'facist state'.
So a sense of irony is not a feature of the BNP either.

The BNP is best called a 'semi-legitimate' party, a large proportion of it's members have criminal records, usually for what the Americans call hate crimes .
Griffin himself is limited to where he goes, since holocaust deniers are unwelcome in some EU nations under their laws.

There is good reason why it is not appropriate for certain public servants to be BNP members, whatever they may say, they are a deeply racist group with as stated, some very undesirable people, in most cases within the upper echelons of the party.

So though it is not right of course, for peoples details to be, without permission, put on line.
But, it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch!


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3617 times:



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 16):
to hate something that goes against the mainstream when a lot of people who hate them probably dont even know one of their policie's!

Some of their policies are quite sensible, mixed up with some that are just silly.

- Raising the speed limit on the motorway (times have changed, cars are now safer than when the 70mph limit was introduced. 56% of motorists drive at over 70mph on the motorway anyway).
- Deporting foreign criminals. (Should be done anyway. Nobody made a fuss when Gary Glitter was deported back to the UK, but we can't deport an Italian murderer because it might 'harm his human rights'?)
- Tighter laws on immigration (Should be happening anyway. Contrary to what Gordon may have you believe, not all of Britain is 'proud of its multicultural society')

But then you have the silly ones, that barely anybody would vote for:

- Banning homosexuality
- 'Advising' people of foreign origin to leave the country


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13229 posts, RR: 77
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

Well Griffin has worked hard over years, to tone down the real ethos of his party, I guess pretending to care about 'sensible issues' is part of this.
Don't be fooled though, look at those running it, their history and the groups the BNP formed out of.

Their stock in trade is to campaign in deprived areas, spinning stories, always false, about how others are getting a better deal over the 'natives'.
But if they win the odd council seat, they rarely last, one prospective new council member never took his seat after being nicked for breaking a glass bottle over a fellow members head!
Another walked out since she could not understand the 'big words' being used, like 'abstain'.

Others have been done for hoarding explosive materials and having kiddie porn.

At the end of the day, relationships I've had would be illegal if they won power, despite the members of the opposite sex concerned having been born and brought up in the UK.
As British as me.

So screw 'em, let them squirm, let's wait for the next phase of their internal in-fighting and maybe a split.


User currently offlineTIMC From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

As much as I don't believe in the BNP or any of its policies, none of its members should be endangered by this list being published. Anyone that takes matters into their own hands is just as bad as them.

As for all of you saying Britain isn't a democracy because certain professions don't allow BNP members - that isn't about democracy. Certain jobs have certain rules - airline pilots aren't allowed to be drunk as it interferes with their job for example.

If someone really believes in the BNP's principles, how can they be effective as a policeman or in local government, where they are likely to discriminate against certain ethnicities? I can just about agree with them being allowed to believe what they want to, however much I disapprove of it. For them to be in a position where those beliefs could put people's lives at risk or impair the quality of others lives is a step too far.


User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3596 times:



Quoting SpeedBirdA380 (Reply 19):
Seems the UK is not the democracy it makes out to be. Wow!

Isn't it a good thing that people in law enforcement/healthcare shouldn't be closet racists?

Quoting GDB (Reply 20):
But, it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch!

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Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 21):
But then you have the silly ones, that barely anybody would vote for:

- Banning homosexuality
- 'Advising' people of foreign origin to leave the country

Yes, add to that the "whites only membership rule" and the party should be shut down.

Quoting TIMC (Reply 23):
As much as I don't believe in the BNP or any of its policies, none of its members should be endangered by this list being published. Anyone that takes matters into their own hands is just as bad as them.

100% agreed.


25 SpeedBirdA380 : Good points you both make.
26 Post contains links Singapore_Air : http://isohunt.com/release/150036/bnp-membership-list+txt I've just downloaded the list. No famliar names but a few close by !
27 Post contains links Singapore_Air : Or, enter your postcode (or a postcode near yours - I used a business postcode) and find your local friendly BNP member http://www.localgibson.com/bnp
28 Boeing4ever : Not really. Since the BNP apparently does similar to other groups with "Redwatch" or whatever, then the guys that uncoverd these folk are no better.
29 JoshSixtySeven : Allow me to demonstrate for you, again. In the intial post you broadcasted how these members details had been shared on the internet, you also made t
30 ThePRGuy : Sounds like a Nick Griffin Quote - you are obviously very confused in what you are trying to achieve and ultimately convinced you are right. Yes i am
31 ACFA : I for one am glad exposed BNP members are losing their jobs. Its a great way to cut off income/revenue to a fascist organization.
32 ACFA : I also disagree with those that say that BNP members are simply people with different viewpoints. By joining a party, they are organized for political
33 N867DA : I'm a cop from Whateverland. I dislike people who aren't from Whateverland and I want all of them to leave. One day I get called to a car accident. O
34 JoshSixtySeven : No, but: "it's going to show people that we're not a bunch of skinhead morons, which is the left-wing media-created image" is. So, go back to your "l
35 Planesarecool : An equivilent to the BNP in the USA would probably be popular. Why shouldn't I be allowed to put a St George's flag outside my house? Why is part of
36 N867DA : That's not quite what the BNP does though....is it? In theory, anyone with a passport that says United Kingdom on it is your fellow countryman. The B
37 JoshSixtySeven : I don't defend their policies at all. If I was a supporter you'd see my name on that list, as it happens I'm not a BNP supporter, equally I'm not lib
38 N229NW : It's sad that people are stooping to their pathetic level, though. However, I must admit to feeling a little Schadenfreude... Let's just clarify: The
39 Boeing4ever : Well that's nice, but my quote said "if there have been no previous problems". Chances are if a cop has been on the beat for years and has never take
40 OA260 : Name and shame. There is no room for racism in the UK. Why are they so worried about being named?? Maybe because there is something wrong with their r
41 ThePRGuy : I agree totally. But that isn't what the BNP is totally about. Extreme members linked to beatings, stabbings plotting to terrorise ethnic minorities.
42 Planesarecool : I'd rather eat food from a tin that I can actually read the label of, thanks. I learnt Spanish specifically because I visit Spain a lot on holiday. I
43 Post contains links ThePRGuy : None of us are disputing that - its only fair. http://www.zen26144.zen.co.uk/resour...BNP%20is%20a%20fascist%20party.pdf Read that - some interesting
44 Boeing4ever : Who's defending them? Last I checked, witchhunts were a tactic adopted by the BNP to help foster violence against people. Why stoop to their level? B
45 SpeedBirdA380 : Maybe because as well as there being right wing nut jobs from the BNP there are certainly a lot of left wing nut jobs out there too who would (and ha
46 Planesarecool : I could probably find some given the time, but when was the last time a BNP member launched a racially motivated attack that killed over 50 people? T
47 SkyyKat : I dont see how having a polish food section in your local grocery store is disrespecting your way of life... If you dont like Polish food dont go the
48 IH8BY : Should other countries ban British ex-pat shops? Believe it or not, Brits abroad have cravings for Chocolate Digestives and so on... Are the BNP real
49 GDB : Those here defending the BNP, I await your defence of their 'whites only' rule. I also wonder why so many BNP members commenting on this, have done so
50 VC10 : Can you then explain why we then allow the Black Police Association, and organization that you can only join if your skin is not white. An organizati
51 Planesarecool : Who's defending the BNP? I'm merely stating that not all off their policies, as they are on paper, are as ridiculous and racist as people seem to sug
52 GDB : VC10, I'm not approving of those organisations you mention, they are unhelpful. But I can see why they were set up, if they should be still around now
53 PPVRA : Some people seem to think freedom of speech only applies to speech they agree with. BNP is a fascist group. Censoring them would be a fascist act. Mak
54 GDB : Who wants to censor them? They only get in trouble when they break, or appear to, race relations/incitement to violence laws. Otherwise, sure, give th
55 PPVRA : Censor, use dirty tricks to attack them, infringe privacy, whatever. All acts you expect from BNP, not from civilized people.
56 Boeing4ever : Poles pride themselves on throwing monkey wrenches into the works of evil organizations and regimes. The German should have killed us all in '39. The
57 N229NW : Come on, now you are really smoking the rolled up Daily Mail and it is making you get paranoid and lose your sense of reality! Tesco has one motivati
58 GDB : But it was a disgruntled BNP member, or now former member, who leaked this info. They did it to themselves! Perhaps not such a surprise in an organis
59 PPVRA : The big problem is that the government is taking "disciplinary" action based on political views. And some people don't seem to care about this. If th
60 Acheron : Lol, thats such a soft way of presenting them. Heck, you sound like a supporter of them. The fact they are part of the groups that deny the Holocaust
61 GDB : Only some state employers, like police and prison officers, who have to demonstrate fairness in dealing with people from all races/backgrounds. I agr
62 ThePRGuy : Its policies like that and a "white only" policy which users in this thread seems to be completely ignoring, and considering "patriotic" - flat-denyi
63 TristarAtLCA : Whilst I do not disagree with a single thing you have posted concerning the BNP, I lean more in the direction PPVRA is going in. Take the current spo
64 GDB : Fair points Tristar, except when you are working for the state, as with the Police, you do have to tow a line. I agree too how a void in conventional
65 TristarAtLCA : To be honest, I feel if you are to impose a ban on a legal (albeit vile) organisation then it has to be across the board or not at all. This current
66 IAirAllie : If no one knew these people were members before the list was leaked then they should be left alone. My rational is if it was not obvious to anyone bef
67 GDB : I think with the Police (and Prison Service too), it's just more sensitive, what with the history of perceived and sometimes very real racism. Look at
68 Post contains links TristarAtLCA : Some valid comments GDB, however.......... We now appear to be entering the realm of guilt by association. This leaked list has reportedly a serving
69 GDB : Well I'd argue that any police officer who joined the BNP, (not just voted for whatever you or I might think of that), has shown such poor judgement,
70 TristarAtLCA : We agree on 99% of this issue and I personally feel that anybody, whether bobby or brickie, who has joined the BNP as a member has shown appalling, no
71 GDB : It's certainly true that the issues around public servants being BNP members, is in terms of policy, inconsistent, confused and definately has not a t
72 JoshSixtySeven : Read a couple of posts above. If you'd read the thread I made my political stance quite clear. Ummm....proof? It's stupid banning someone from a job
73 IH8BY : I can't believe you even see fit to make such a comparison. Yes, there are irritating activists in the environmental lobby. But to suggest that belie
74 GDB : You sound, to be frank, rather barmy, not to mention totally scientifically illiterate. There exists still, organizations who maintain the Earth is a
75 Babybus : I fully agree with this. We want to keep England a country of free speech. These people have every right to think want they think. It is for others t
76 MD11Engineer : I know the UK doesn't have a constitution, but aren't police officers and other government employees sworn in to uphold the law? What if the politics
77 JoshSixtySeven : Good thing I have hard earned bits of paper to proove, you too, have no idea what you're talking about. Defend? So I take it you don't read posts abo
78 Planesarecool : Interesting, an Indian man has today been found guilty of murdering an English teenager in Southampton, fleeing to India and then admitting to doing i
79 ThePRGuy : Read ALL posts above, I am not agreeing that these details have been released or that people should not be allowed their own views, I am not as much
80 GDB : So what about that awful case of the kidnap and rape of the poor girl? It was clearly sexually motivated, why are you so keen to imply it would have b
81 N229NW : Ohhhh, so you were only defending racist skinheads, not the BNP. I see, well that is a lot better then...I guess you like your BNP old-style, before
82 JoshSixtySeven : Clearly you're someone else who suffers the inability to think in depth. I did not say that GDB and IH8BY had impeded upon my freedom of speech. The
83 Planesarecool : Because it always is. For example, when the Stephen Lawrence Centre was vandalised, it was claimed to be a 'racially motivated attack' before even ha
84 N229NW : Perhaps that is true. But the same assumptions are made in the other direction. For example, when a car was firebombed on a Yorkshire estate just now
85 GDB : Given the circumstances around the Lawrence case (and my own view, years on, is that the association of a detective involved, with the gangster father
86 Planesarecool : Cheap tabloids you'd expect, but Ken Livingstone, the then Mayor of London, also jumped on the bandwagon before having any evidence. Source? And I as
87 IH8BY : Much as the BNP certainly tried to capitalise on the attacks, the killing on July 7th was indiscriminate. It wasn't just British nationals, and certa
88 Planesarecool : So you're saying that 4 muslims coming to Britain to specifically target the 'West' and killing 52 innocent people is in no way racist? They even sai
89 N867DA : 'British' is a nationality, not a race. Perhaps its also an ethnic group, but in most cases it is the former. As such, 'Westerners' are people who re
90 Imiakhtar : I believe, that out of the four, three of the 7/7 bombers were born and bred here. Just out of interest, do you read the Daily Mail?
91 IH8BY : Reading the transcript of Mohammed Sidique Khan's suicide video, it is also emphasised that the attacks were in response to our foreign policy elsewh
92 Gofly : Hello chaps, Given that this thread is beginning to drift off-topic, I'm going to nip it in the bud. Unfortunately, there are a number of posts within
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