Lincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8 Posted (5 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3967 times:
I've been tipping $5/night for the past few years (At Hampton on the low end through Hilton Garden Inn / Homewood / Embassy Suites / Doubletree to Hilton on the upper end), but I recently stumbled across a guide that reccomends $2/night.
Just curious what the true "norm" is -- growing up on the rare occassion that we stayed at a hotel I don't remember my parents ever mentioning tipping (but I don't know if they did or didn't)
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Comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4861 posts, RR: 16 Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3939 times:
It takes about 20 mins to clean a room - and unlike waiters, housekeeping gets min wage and benefits. So I'd say about $2/day makes sense unless you're staying at a five-star property.
I wonder what the guidelines in the UK would be for both housekeeping and valet tips? I leave about 5 GBP per 2-night stay, 2 GBP for the guy who brings up my luggage, and 1 GBP for the doorman per cab hail. They have really great concierges in London hotels so I'll tip them too. Again, tipping cultures vary across the world.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12010 posts, RR: 50 Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3918 times:
I usually leave $2.00 to $3.00 per night and do it daily. That way who ever cleans the room that day gets it. If I have been especially messy or the maid goes out of her way then it can and does go up.
ImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1696 posts, RR: 19 Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3913 times:
IMO $5.00 a day is a VERY acceptable amount. Usually after the first night the housekeeper "gets it" and will go out of their way to keep the room and bathroom VERY clean. On a few occasions they took it for granted and I stopped tipping. They have to perform or no tip. I am a tidy person by nature so I know I don't cause them any grief.
In any event, no matter how much time they spend in the room, the job of Housekeeping is a back-breaking job that most people could not do for long, considering how many people are human pigs----especially 20 rooms a day or so----AND at minimum wages. So I try to show some respect for the job they do. I also make sure to fill out the comment cards with their names on them if they are really superior, as that affects their pay scale at time of review. I make sure to give it to them so they can make a copy of it before mailing it in, just in case, at the time of review, Human Resources claims they "have no knowlege of it".
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WildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2497 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3891 times:
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 5): Why on earth would you tip a hotel room cleaner, they are doing a job which they are paid to do, adding a tip is crazy.
I live here for almost 8 and I still don't get it. Wherever you go, everyone expects a tip - waiters, valets, room cleaners, cab drivers, etc...Shouldn't the business owner pay them? If not, why only there? Why nobody ever told me (when I was doing my old job where I was visiting the customers directly) " Jeez dude, you've fixed my laser nicely (or microscope, phoroptor, lensmeter, refractometer, tonometer, Eyecap, you name it) here's a twenty"
and yet I'm expected to tip everyone around?
O the side note, my former colleague, born and raised in Canada once tried to tip the hotel room cleaner in Wedel, Germany. He left a 5 euro note on the blanket several times. He always found it at the pillow whe he came back from work.
Tugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5004 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3852 times:
Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 7): I live here for almost 8 and I still don't get it. Wherever you go, everyone expects a tip - waiters, valets, room cleaners, cab drivers, etc...Shouldn't the business owner pay them? If not, why only there? Why nobody ever told me (when I was doing my old job where I was visiting the customers directly) " Jeez dude, you've fixed my laser nicely (or microscope, phoroptor, lensmeter, refractometer, tonometer, Eyecap, you name it) here's a twenty" and yet I'm expected to tip everyone around?
The main reason why someone tips is for service. That is why the general public tips waiters and valets, etc., they do something for you. The idea is that while they are getting paid to do a job basic job (park your car, get your order and bring the food) you tip them for their good service and attentive actions towards you, they do something"extra" beyond the job. It is a demonstration that the service they provide is superior and appreciated and some people do honestly work extra hard for it.
I must admit that I don't understand why we should tip for just absolute base service with nothing special (you don't tip a fast food employee), give me something to tip for first.
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Ok, I understand the general principle and I do tip. I even used to tip for extra service while living in Europe. However, it went far beyond this point around here, basically you pay someone's employees directly. The list prices then look much lower than the service you buy will cost you. I don't really like this system.
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3812 times:
I tip waiter (waitress) from 17-20%. I'll tip bell-boys at some of the bigger places (Millenium - St. Louis, William Penn Omni, i.e.) I've stayed, but a lot of the places don't have them, they just have the carts. I don't tip housekeepers because they are paid above minimum wage and I don't have direct contact with them.
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TSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2979 posts, RR: 5 Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3768 times:
I tip housekeepers $2 per day, but then I don't make a mess in hotel rooms. All they have to do in my room is make up the bed, empty the trash cans, and put out a clean towel or two.
I did once slip a housekeeper a $10 tip to let me take photos out the window of a room she was cleaning that was on the other, "better view" side of the building from mine (yes, the previous occupants had already checked out). That room was trashed, with bottles, cans, fast-food refuse, and God-only-knows what else on every surface... plus the heady aroma of marijuana still thick in the air. The previous occupants of that room should be horse-whipped if they left her less than a $20 tip.
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MWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 617 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3706 times:
I've often found that the general rule of 10/20% of the bill works when calculating a tip. I however will only tip if the service or experience has been a good one. Personally I have known a few people that work within the leasure industry, (hotels and bars) and all of them say that they like it when they recieve tips not specifically for the money, but because it shows that they are providing a great service. But most of them would agree with me in that house keeping is a service that dosn't require a tip, unless the housekeeper makes and extra effort to make your stay that bit special, such as turn down service, or extra pillows if you ask etc.
I used to work within the cleaning industry operating my own pressure washing company and never expected to recieve tips from customers, however on one particular occasion I mis-calculated on a job and had to buy in extra matirials than budgeted for, (my person thoughts on the matter were damn, blast and order non-mentionable words) but thats life take the hit, anyway recieved payment from the customer who by the way was extreamly happy with the job and I gained about 2.5k in referal works from, sent be a cheque for and extra £50 that more that covered the additional chemicals which was nice.
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BAViscount From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2338 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3689 times:
Generally, I don't tip at all. Like others have said, I never leave my room in a mess anyway, so all they have to do is take away the rubbish and leave me a couple of clean towels...assuming I've been a good boy and left the old ones in the bath in the first place! Hell, I usually make the bed at least look made...I'd rather they just left it alone to be honest so that I didn't have to untuck all the sheets just to be able to get in to the damn thing at night. Just leave it alone, please!!
If I'm staying in a hotel in the first place, it's usually so that I have a place to sleep between my days of being out and about sightseeing. I very rarely choose a hotel for its facilities as I very rarely use them anyway. I think I already pay enough for having somewhere to lay my weary head for eight hours - I'm not going to pay extra to have someone empty the bin, spend two minutes running the hoover round, wave a wet cloth around the sink and bath and fold the toilet paper into a point.
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Tugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5004 posts, RR: 8 Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3662 times:
Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 13): Ok, I understand the general principle and I do tip. I even used to tip for extra service while living in Europe. However, it went far beyond this point around here, basically you pay someone's employees directly. The list prices then look much lower than the service you buy will cost you. I don't really like this system.
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 22): Which they are compensated for by their employer, so why should you give them something extra for what they are already being paid to do, madness if you ask me.
Yes, I do think that people should be PAID enough to do a good job and if they don't serve the customer well then the management should bear the burden of dealing with the problem.
I also agree that in the USA tipping has gotten out for control. In New York they are now "recommending" tipping waiters not less than 18% and more often between 20-25%! Hell, for some reason we feel the need to tip Starbucks "barista's" even though by all measures they work for an excellent company that pays well and provides good benefit's for hte job at hand.
Quote: Tipping, its defenders say, improves service by rewarding good waiters and punishing bad ones. But .... good service was not always rewarded with a big tip, nor bad service with a poor one.
Tipping began as an aristocratic practice, a sprinkle of change for social inferiors, and it quickly spread among the upper classes of Europe.
The single most important factor in determining the amount of a tip is the size of the bill. Diners generally tip the same percentage no matter the quality of the service and no matter the setting. They do so .... largely because it’s expected and diners fear social disapproval. “It is embarrassing to have another person wait on you,” the psychologist Ernest Dichter told a magazine reporter in 1960. “The need to pay, psychologically, for the guilt involved in the unequal relationship is so strong that very few are able to ignore it.” Ego needs also play a part, especially when it comes to overtipping, according to the Israeli social psychologist Boas Shamir.
The whole thing is a pretty interesting read.
For the record, I have never found the need to tip for my stay at a hotel but I have done so occasionally, usually for outstanding service or very small B&B type places.
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Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 17267 posts, RR: 51 Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3648 times:
The amount to tip housekeeping at a hotel depends on what article or book you're reading. There was an article in the Las Vegas Review-Journal last April where they talked to several different "experts" with tips on tipping. One "expert" said $5 per night, another said $2 per night, another said $1-10 a night (depending on how messy the room is), yet another said $10 a night, and the last "expert" said $3-5 a night (depending on how messy the room is). Myself, if I remember to do so at the end of the stay (sometimes I'm so focused on departure that I forget), the tip I leave comes out to $5/night.
I actually found out that it is recommended to tip the valet when you pull in and when you pick the car up. It kind of makes sense, as the valet that was there when you dropped it off may not be the same one that's there when you go to pick up the car.
At times, it seems as though before you leave on a trip, you need to get about $10-20 in singles just for tips from the time you get to the airport until you've unpacked your bag.
Tugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5004 posts, RR: 8 Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3635 times:
Quoting Srbmod (Reply 23): I actually found out that it is recommended to tip the valet when you pull in and when you pick the car up. It kind of makes sense, as the valet that was there when you dropped it off may not be the same one that's there when you go to pick up the car.
Great point! I forgot about that. It is probably the most important reason to tip: Attention!
One place I do tip and tip well early on is at a bar/nightclub. If there are dozens or hundreds of people around you and you want service, if you tip well early, you will be served quickly the next time. If you don't you probably won't.
If you are a regular somewhere and tip well, you will be come "known" and people will very much want to serve you. I wonder if tipping really came about this way, by regulars who wanted better service. And the inverse is true too, if you are know as a bad tipper then the staff will ignore you and be reluctant to "be stuck with you".
In a situation where you are anonymous, which is often the case nowadays, this is not a reason to tip.
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25 Lincoln: Some interesting responses, thanks... certainly something to think about. As others have noted, I tend to keep the room clean and don't use a ton of t
26 Sky0000547: The only people I generally tip is restaurant wait staff and that is only because it is something accustom to throughout the world. Most of the time t
27 NIKV69: This has nothing to do with it, in my country it is customary to tip housekeepers, valet, bartenders, waiters etc. If you want to be cheap by all mea
28 Cptkrell: I usually tip $5/night, taped to the bathroom mirror each day with a "thank you". It seems to help if I need extra coffee or other stuff, they always
29 Sky0000547: It has nothing to do with being cheap and again your explanation of their low wages exist because they live on their tips doesn't wash with me. It is
30 IAirAllie: I tip at least 20% in restaurants but I generally do not tip the housekeeper. I'll leave a tip during the holidays and I tip a buck or two if I reques
31 David L: I generally leave about $10 at reception "for the staff" when I check out. However, there have been times where the service was so intrusive that I le
32 NIKV69: Hate to break it to you but it is how it is here. You can try to justify your lack of leaving a tip all you want but here when you are in a restuaran
33 David L: Do you change your sheets and towels every day at home?
34 NIKV69: Your trying to compare your house to a hotel? Again custom dicates that in a hotel your to have fresh towels every day and your bed made. Then again
35 IAirAllie: Generally my stays are one to 3 nights tops. I don't drink Starbucks (wast of money on an unhealthy habit) and I don't believe in tipping for service
36 Tugger: This is where I think things are getting out of hand. 20% of the bill is already a lot. you are essentially employing the server completely on your o
37 David L: Where? I'm comparing towels to towels and sheets to sheets. The "custom" hasn't been that simple for quite a while. As Tugger says, for many years, m
38 Asuflyer05: I don't tip the housekeeper because I usually put the 'Do Not Disturb' sign on the door the first time I walk into the room and don't take it off unti
39 Steeler83: Heheh... Funny I should see this thread on here. I actually work as a housekeeper!! Given that I work as one for the time being given the condition of
40 NIKV69: Well I guess if that means saving 2 bucks by all means but I never see those signs in the hotels I stay in. Guess the majority of guests tip there. Y
41 Smcmac32msn: I stayed at a Holiday Inn in the Twin Cities (Minnesota), I won't name which one, but it was on I-35E south of the Mall of America.... and I had the
42 Tugger: No disagreements there with you. I have to admit that I am not a mess maker in my rooms. I believe in leaving the room neat (if not bed made and towe
43 Winglet: If they are friendly as you walk around the hotel, 5 - 10. If not 0 - 5. If very friendly and helpful 20.
44 BAGoldEx: I'll usually go with $5 per day. Most of the time I'm in a city where the costs of living are astronomical and minimum wage and benefits don't cut the
45 ShyFlyer: Until reading this thread, the thought of tipping housekeeping had never occurred to me. From time to time, I've left small amounts of money in my roo
46 LTU932: From what I remember the last I was in a Hotel (on our last trip either in Italy or France), we tipped them zilch, nada.
47 TSS: For money to be recognized by housekeeping as a tip and not a careless habit of a very trusting hotel guest, you have to leave it in a very obvious p
48 Dazed767: Like others I have never thought to tip the housekeeper. Something I'll consider next time I travel. I try to tip 20% at restraunts or when I get a ha
49 Tugger: Uh, yeah, there's another one that I never thought to do. But then I don't get my hair cut at SuperCuts. My hair stylist runs her own business and ge
50 StasisLAX: I agree with this amount. If I have any special requests for the hotel's housekeeping staff (such as extra pillows or if they are taking care of pick
51 KiwiRob: I had an interesting tip situation last time I was in the US. My wife, myself and a couple of colleagues were at the LAX Hilton and needed a car to ta
52 Sky0000547: As someone has touched on it 20% or more for a tip is way too much. Everywhere around the world is around 10% which is more acceptable but they shoul
53 Steeler83: At my hotel, we have "No service please," or "later please." Of course, at the end of the day, I would go back to see if those magnets are still outs
54 Alias1024: In the US it is customary to tip hairdressers and taxi drivers. Just as 15-20% is customary for reasonable service at a restaurant, since the minimum
55 David L: It's nothing to do with saving 2 bucks... as I explained.
56 ScarletHarlot: I tip $3 per night, always. Well, in the US, anyway. I leave it on the bed every morning. When I am travelling on business I expense my tips, and my e
57 Tugger: But isn't it true, that we all stopped tipping, employers would have start paying a decent wage? I mean seriously, why should many other professions
58 KaiGywer: Sounds like it might be located on Nicollet Ave, squeezed in between I35E and I35W
59 WildcatYXU: Well, you see, that depends on the employer. ABI, for instance, allows 15% tip for waiters. That's it. Tips for valets and any other personnel will n
60 Lincoln: Very interesting reading... Thanks for all of the replies. My understanding (consult your tax professional) is that "reasonable" unreimbursed tips tha
61 IAirAllie: Thank you. Not every guest is on local time physiologically. I loathe it when some well meaning manager/employee calls my room and wakes me up to say
62 SKYYBLUE: Wow. I must be ignorant to this but I have never left, nor has it even crossed my mind, the staff a tip in the hotel. I always was under the assumpti
63 Smcmac32msn: Not going to slam them..... but its some where near there
64 Babybus: True and the other thing is that it isn't always the same person who cleans your room everyday. You leave a tip and someone you've never seen before
65 Sbworcs: It does seem to be getting out of hand a bit. When my family and I went to the US for a holiday we worked out that between the 6 of us we were expecte
66 Andaman: I am a terrible tipper, typical Finn ,) Usually tipping is not expected anywhere in Finland, not in hotels, restaurangs, bars - sometimes it's hard to